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Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived

Ive already stated many reasons i cant stand Biden.
 
Are you expecting a politician to tell you the truth? BTW, what is Bernie's position on China?




I'm not sure what you're getting at here, did you look at his platform on "Feel the Bern.org"?
 
You have a good point, in that not only does Joe do a lot of gaffs, but he has a consistent record of failed Presidential ambitions. So he may not be as solid as many think.
 
Like I said, there's nothing comparable with Trump. Let's look at your statement.

1. The probe was started for things that happened before he was President, meaning he was a private citizen. Biden was Vice President.
The investigation continued well into Trump's actions into his presidency.

2. Most of the scandals had nothing to do with Trump, his admin, or were a nothingburger (e.g. Manafort's financial actions years ago or charging people with procedural crimes)
Absolutely incorrect. In fact, the Senate is currently subpoenaing Don Jr. in relation to Trump claiming he didn't know about the Trump Towers Russia meeting to get Putin's help with his election.

3. Documented what?....not collusion, which was what the entire CT was about, so this statement is not factual in saying it's "all documented".
Obstruction. Mueller blueprinted 10 or 12 instances where he could not charge Trump due DOJ regs, and left it for Congress.[/quote]

So yeah...not comparable at all.
Agreed. Not comparable at all. Far worse.
 
Then we will see. If this economy holds...Biden might be DOA.
Now that, I agree with.

Trump may indeed be carried into a second term on the strength of the economy. Conversely if the economy falters substantively, he's probably toast.
 
Now that, I agree with.

Trump may indeed be carried into a second term on the strength of the economy. Conversely if the economy falters substantively, he's probably toast.

Strong possibility.
 
I predict he is going to lean on the Fed next year, like nobody's business!

You may be right. Do you think, should the Fed listen and do what he wants...or just do it 'cause its the right thing to do...that John P Public cares?
If...when the election happens...the US economy is still in great shape...and John P Public has a job and a new car...'will he care why the interest rates were kept low?
 
I believe the Fed should maintain independence, and be free from political interference.
 
I believe the Fed should maintain independence, and be free from political interference.

What you believe, and reality, are 2 different things.
 
What you believe, and reality, are 2 different things.
I think it's to be strived for. The recent jettisoning of Trump's board picks would seem to indicate this is what's happening.
 
I think it's to be strived for. The recent jettisoning of Trump's board picks would seem to indicate this is what's happening.

There are benefits to winning that election.
 
The investigation continued well into Trump's actions into his presidency.

Of course, it would have to if it really only started when he became President, but the reality is that it was started over things that happened when he was a private citizen and with other people’s actions, not his.


Also wrong, the Mueller report specifically stated that they didn’t make a determination of obstruction and that that determination had nothing to do with the DOJ regs. It only brought up 10 things that were questionable and left it to Congress to decide what they wanted to do it with.

Agreed. Not comparable at all. Far worse.

Sure....assisting in the toppling of a government and getting your son a sweetheart businesss deal and making sure that it’s not looked into is totally worse than a fake Russian collusion conspiracy and no determinable obstruction of and investigation of collusion that didn’t happen and angry tweets. Got it.
 
Regardless of the voracity of the claims, the reason the bolded won't hold is because Biden will be compared in relation to his competitor (Trump), which pretty much nullifies the argument.

I wonder what Joe will use for his Economy credentials?
 

I'd MUCH rather see Ol' Bern or Pocahontas as the VP candidate. But then nothing is going to save the D's...
 
Tweety is worse than the entire Democratic field. i hope that they choose a good candidate so that we can flush the toilet on the current administration.

and that does not seem likely.
 

The only duped cultists around here are those who think there is a Trump cult.
 
Of course, it would have to if it really only started when he became President, but the reality is that it was started over things that happened when he was a private citizen and with other people’s actions, not his.
So what? And regardless, Mueller started when Trump forced Congress' hand during his presidency.

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That was Barr's propaganda, not Mueller's statement. Are you reading Mueller, or Barr?

Here's Mueller's first premise in the introduction to the second volume (the volume dealing with Trump). I bolded the key line:


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Meh. The only "government toppling" currently done is from the Oval Office, along with "democracy toppling" if you so like that term.
 
Hunter Biden flew to China with Joe Biden on air force two. 10 days later he lands a billion dollar deal for his private equity firm. He had no previous work experience in China or working in private equity and had only recently been kicked out of the navy for cocaine abuse. Come on man. Anyone notice how easy Biden was on China in his speech the other day. Come on man. Can you say selling influence?
 
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