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Do progressives dislike Dore because he doesn’t buy into RussiaGate?
Do progressives dislike Dore because he doesn’t buy into RussiaGate?
Do progressives dislike Dore because he doesn’t buy into RussiaGate?
Democrats don't dislike him because nobody knows who the the hell Jimmy Dore is and why would anyone care who he is?
Do progressives dislike Dore because he doesn’t buy into RussiaGate?
He's a pretty well-known youtube political commentator. He's very acerbic and of the 'sort of progressive, but fanatically opposed to any criticisms of Russian interference' variety. Kid Showbusiness on Twitter: "VIDEO: @jimmy_dore wonders why Bernie Sanders won't come on his show. #SethRich #HillaryHasParkinsons… "
He's a pretty well-known youtube political commentator. He's very acerbic and of the 'sort of progressive, but fanatically opposed to any criticisms of Russian interference' variety. Kid Showbusiness on Twitter: "VIDEO: @jimmy_dore wonders why Bernie Sanders won't come on his show. #SethRich #HillaryHasParkinsons… "
Do progressives dislike Dore because he doesn’t buy into RussiaGate?
Yeah, that's the main thing that devalues him for me as a commentator: the guy really does go the extra mile in covering for Russia and downplaying/minimizing the unflattering nature of Putin's regime more generally.
Having said that, he certainly does tend to make compelling points when he's not being an apologist in this regard, and often does his homework.
So does Glen Greenwald.
Sorry but this Russia business is a dangerous development and Jimmy Dore thinks, it's (A) not a big deal, or what...(B)justified because "we did it to them?"
To which I would say, "Hey guess what, a-hole, I live HERE, I don't live THERE."
Defending the FBI does not automatically equal blanket approval of everything we've ever done.
Dore thinks he sounds "iconoclast".
He should sport a man-bun.
Youtuber? When I want political commentary, I ask myself what I think. I don't need some random guy on the internets or TV to tell me what to think.
So does Glen Greenwald.
Sorry but this Russia business is a dangerous development and Jimmy Dore thinks, it's (A) not a big deal, or what...(B)justified because "we did it to them?"
To which I would say, "Hey guess what, a-hole, I live HERE, I don't live THERE."
Yes, that's where Jimmy goes awry: he's too transfixed by certain bugbears. Having said that, like with Glen Greenwald, while it can be arduous to slog through his Russia minimizing rants, there is certainly wheat to be separated from the chaff. I would never dismiss him off-hand despite the temptation to at times, because he's right and compelling at least often enough to merit that hazing.
I wouldn't say that. Dore takes our wrongdoing and says, 'so don't talk about either side'. I say, 'talk about the wrongdoing of both'. I don't think we should ignore what we do wrong because we live here, quite the opposite, we're the only ones who DO get a vote about things we do to people who get no vote.
But right here and right now, we have to save ourselves from being drowned.
Does Jimmy understand that we are rats trapped in a large driveway refuse bin filled with water?
That's kind of a ridiculous statement. So I guess when Tom Paine wrote his pamphlet that moved the colonies to support revolution, you would have said 'not gonna read it, don't need someone's opinion'. So why are you on this forum, you don't need anyone's commentary, and like you, they don't need yours, right?
If I have access to the facts, I will form my own opinion. I may very well arrive at the same conclusion, but I do not need someone else to tell me what to think. One of the worst things to happen in America(and the world) is the mainstreaming of propaganda. Admittedly, it has been going on since before there even was an America, but I do think it is destructive.
Who is Jimmy Dore?
He's a pretty well-known youtube political commentator. He's very acerbic and of the 'sort of progressive, but fanatically opposed to any criticisms of Russian interference' variety. Kid Showbusiness on Twitter: "VIDEO: @jimmy_dore wonders why Bernie Sanders won't come on his show. #SethRich #HillaryHasParkinsons… "
I thought Trump supporters were only uniformed because of Fox brainwashing and never imagined anyone could be so vulnerable and so hungry for anything positive to Trump that they would put any credibility on unverified crap that a YouTuber planted in their consciousness.
There's a big problem among Trump supporters when the major news network that Trump supporters are faithful to, begins seeping in more and more flattering comments about Russia than what the reality is. Fox hosts like Tucker Carlson and Congressmen like Ted Cruz and John Kennedy are right out there in the public eye spewing pro-Russia talking points and disinformation. The right has been compromised by Russia entirely. Do we have to spell this out for them -- 'Russia = bad'
I think back 10 or 20 years and try to imagine mainstream well-known people like those I mentioned trying to insert any Russian propaganda into the mainstream consciousness of Americans and I can't fathom how any of them would get away with it.
Do progressives dislike Dore because he doesn’t buy into RussiaGate?
In 1998, Page joined the Eurasia Group, a strategy consulting firm, but left three months later. In 2017, Eurasia Group president Ian Bremmer recalled on his Twitter feed that Page's strong pro-Russian stance was "not a good fit" for the firm and that Page was its "most wackadoodle" alumnus.[23] Stephen Sestanovich later described Page's foreign-policy views as having "an edgy Putinist resentment" and a sympathy to Russian leader Vladimir Putin's criticisms of the United States.[2] Over time, Page became increasingly critical of United States foreign policy toward Russia, and more supportive of Putin, with a United States official describing Page as "a brazen apologist for anything Moscow did".[4] Page is frequently quoted by Russian state television, where he is presented as a "famous American economist".
Carter Page - Wikipedia
I haven't listened very much to his program. He seems more like the right wing.
You are aware Page worked as agent for CIA in Russia