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Jewish Terrorism

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We all know the saying, "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims." Perhaps it's a fair statement in terms of raw numbers, but is it fair to suggest that terrorism is a peculiarly Muslim phenomenon? Apparently, other groups have their share of terrorists as well. And no, we're not just talking about "state terrorists" killing civilians in battle or dropping bombs on villages.

The United States has a long and rich history of exporting terrorism abroad, according to a CIA memo released by Wikileaks on Wednesday. After noting several incidents in which American Muslims launched much-discussed attacks abroad, the analysts warned, “less attention has been paid to homegrown terrorism… exported overseas” by non-Muslim groups....

In a 1986 study of domestic terrorism, the Department of Energy concluded: “For more than a decade, the Jewish Defense League (JDL) has been one of the most active terrorist groups in the United States....Since 1968, JDL operations have killed 7 persons and wounded at least 22.”

Among the acts of terrorism attributed to the JDL was a deadly 1972 bombing of a New York talent agency that brought Russian performers to the U.S., and the 1985 assassination of a regional director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in California. According to the FBI, in 2001, months after the 9/11 attacks, two JDL members, Irving David Rubin and Earl Leslie Krugel “were arrested by the Los Angeles Joint Terrorism Task Force for conspiring to build and place improvised explosive devices (IEDs) at the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, California, and the local office of Congressman Darrell Issa.”

Wikileaked CIA Memo Warns of American Jewish Extremists Exporting Terror Abroad | World | AlterNet
 

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We all know the saying, "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims." Perhaps it's a fair statement in terms of raw numbers, but is it fair to suggest that terrorism is a peculiarly Muslim phenomenon?
I wouldn't even say that is a fair statement in raw numbers with seperatist groups around the world like the R-IRA and others like it.
 

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The JDL is an American group.

This forum is set up to discuss the middle east.
 

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Bam, we have a winner.
3......2........1..

"You just can't say ANYTHING about Israel policy"..........




oops. Am I stifling legitimate debate? I never can tell.
 

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i missed it
what about the story's discussion of goldstein's terrorism of the west bank Palestinians in prayer causes it to be placed in a section other than the middle east forum
 

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i missed it
what about the story's discussion of goldstein's terrorism of the west bank Palestinians in prayer causes it to be placed in a section other than the middle east forum
It was an example, as was the other example of Kahana.
The theme of the article (from a very biased website on its own right) is about Jewish-American terrorism.
 

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It was an example, as was the other example of Kahana.
The theme of the article (from a very biased website on its own right) is about Jewish-American terrorism.
Thank you for showing you didn't even bother to read the article.

“Contrary to common belief,” noted the anonymous authors, “the American export of terrorism or terrorists is not a recent phenomenon, nor has it been associated only with Islamic radicals or people of Middle Eastern, African or South Asian ethnic origin.” According to the analysts, Jewish extremists “have supported and even engaged in violent acts against perceived enemies of Israel,” and “some Irish-Americans have long provided financial and material support for violent efforts to compel the United Kingdom to relinquish control of Northern Ireland.”
 

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Thank you for showing you didn't even bother to read the article.

“Contrary to common belief,” noted the anonymous authors, “the American export of terrorism or terrorists is not a recent phenomenon, nor has it been associated only with Islamic radicals or people of Middle Eastern, African or South Asian ethnic origin.” According to the analysts, Jewish extremists “have supported and even engaged in violent acts against perceived enemies of Israel,” and “some Irish-Americans have long provided financial and material support for violent efforts to compel the United Kingdom to relinquish control of Northern Ireland.”
So the main theme is not about the Middle East.
Thanks for proving it.
 

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So the main theme is not about the Middle East.
Thanks for proving it.
No, the theme of the article is exported terrorism and their effect on certain nations. You would know this if you bothered reading the entire article before making absurd statements.
 

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No, the theme of the article is exported terrorism and their effect on certain nations. You would know this if you bothered reading the entire article before making absurd statements.
Unless all of those nations are in the Middle East the theme of the article is not the middle east.
The article is ridiculous by its own right for using the word 'exports' as if those people don't choose where they want to live, but it doesn't deal with the Middle East and the only connection is that a middle eastern nation is given in one of the examples.
 

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Unless all of those nations are in the Middle East the theme of the article is not the middle east.
WTF? Where exactly did anyone say the theme of this article was the Middle East? Do all countries specified in an article have to be from the Middle East for a topic to be posted here? Is that what you are insinuating?
The article is ridiculous by its own right for using the word 'exports' as if those people don't choose where they want to live, but it doesn't deal with the Middle East and the only connection is that a middle eastern nation is given in one of the examples.
Good job contradicting yourself.
 

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I thought WIKIleaks was proven to be ANTI- American. If so then using them as a source is discredited upon its face.
 

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I thought WIKIleaks was proven to be ANTI- American. If so then using them as a source is discredited upon its face.
This makes no sense. A source being "anti-American" has little to do with its actual content and the factual base of it.
 

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Unless all of those nations are in the Middle East the theme of the article is not the middle east.
The article is ridiculous by its own right for using the word 'exports' as if those people don't choose where they want to live, but it doesn't deal with the Middle East and the only connection is that a middle eastern nation is given in one of the examples.
If you think the thread is in the wrong section then report it. Stop trying to block a discussion.
 

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Good to know you people have a firm stand against terrorists.
Well... at least when they are not Arabs.
 

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Good to know you people have a firm stand against terrorists.
Well... at least when they are not Arabs.
could you re-visit with us the way israel handled jewish terrorists within its own ranks
as i recall from your post in another thread, most were winked at and provided positions within the IDF
 

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WTF? Where exactly did anyone say the theme of this article was the Middle East? Do all countries specified in an article have to be from the Middle East for a topic to be posted here? Is that what you are insinuating?

Good job contradicting yourself.
I take it then that you claim that if one of the countries which is being given as an example in an opinion article is a middle eastern country then the thread about this opinion article needs to be placed in the Middle Eastern section (AKA, its topic is the Middle East).
This is of course wrong, and just as this article does not fit the Europe section it also does not fit the Middle East section and is hence fitting the general politics section.
 

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If you think the thread is in the wrong section then report it. Stop trying to block a discussion.
Already did, but once a poster has engaged me with an argument claiming that it does fit on topic I was obliged to respond to him with a counter argument.
 

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This makes no sense. A source being "anti-American" has little to do with its actual content and the factual base of it.
This makes no sense, a source holding certain bias would certainly imply on its content - otherwise it wouldn't be labeled biased to begin with.
 

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I take it then that you claim that if one of the countries which is being given as an example in an opinion article is a middle eastern country then the thread about this opinion article needs to be placed in the Middle Eastern section (AKA, its topic is the Middle East).
This is of course wrong, and just as this article does not fit the Europe section it also does not fit the Middle East section and is hence fitting the general politics section.
Well, seeing as how their is a general ban on all topics related to Israel/Palestine that are posted outside the M/E section, it's seems quite useless for the OP to post it somewhere it has no opportunity to be discussed.
 

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This makes no sense, a source holding certain bias would certainly imply on its content - otherwise it wouldn't be labeled biased to begin with.
Merely calling something anti-"etc" is not reason enough to discredit something entirely. That's fallacious and illogical.
 
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