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Jesus Christ’s Resurrection Is Probably The Best-Documented Historical Event Ever

Logicman said:
Nope. God wouldn't be the author of confusion, having one religion with 'salvation by works' and another by salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, etc.
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Really?

And you have intimate and personal knowledge what God does, or does not, do things in the way that She does them (assuming, for the sake of discussion, that there actually is a God)?

Have you told The Pope about this yet?
 
Logicman said:
The Muslims would be wrong.
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Really?

And you have an intimate and personal knowledge of why God does things in the way that She does them (assuming, for the sake of discussion, that there is a God)?

Have you told The Pope about this yet?
 
devildavid said:
No one who dies is ever seen again. That is a fact.
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Someone who walks down into a cave that has only one known entrance and doesn't come back out of that entrance but, rather, comes out of a previously unknown entrance and then lives the life of a solitary hermit is ever seen again either.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Someone who walks down into a cave that has only one known entrance and doesn't come back out of that entrance but, rather, comes out of a previously unknown entrance and then lives the life of a solitary hermit is ever seen again either.
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And they also die, like all other human beings. We don't need to see every dead human to know that dead humans do not act like live humans.
 
devildavid said:
And they also die, like all other human beings. We don't need to see every dead human to know that dead humans do not act like live humans.
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The physical capsule of the person is discarded at death.

On Resurrection Day the saved will be given new and incorruptible bodies. Until that time, they merely slumber and have no need of physical bodies.

Or, at least that is what all of the reputable, respected, venerable, and self-authenticated reports tell us will happen.

Since you can't prove that that is not what is going to happen at some (unspecified) time in the future, it must be true - right?

PS - You do know that it is as difficult to prove (with 100% certainty) that something that has not happened yet is going to happen as it is to prove (with 100% certainty) that it is not going to happen - don't you?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
The physical capsule of the person is discarded at death.

On Resurrection Day the saved will be given new and incorruptible bodies. Until that time, they merely slumber and have no need of physical bodies.

Or, at least that is what all of the reputable, respected, venerable, and self-authenticated reports tell us will happen.

Since you can't prove that that is not what is going to happen at some (unspecified) time in the future, it must be true - right?

PS - You do know that it is as difficult to prove (with 100% certainty) that something that has not happened yet is going to happen as it is to prove (with 100% certainty) that it is not going to happen - don't you?
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The physical is the person. Nothing is discarded.

Anecdotal evidence is near worthless.

That nothing is 100% certain is not significant.
 
devildavid said:
The physical is the person. Nothing is discarded.
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I merely cite what those respected and highly verified (well, "circular verified" if you must) theological authorities say "The Truth" is.
devildavid said:
Anecdotal evidence is near worthless.
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"Near worthless" and "worthless" do not mean the same thing.
devildavid said:
That nothing is 100% certain is not significant.
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As is the other side of the coin.

In fact, if you were to do an infinite number of coin tosses where you allowed the coin to land on a perfectly level surface, do you know what the ration between the number of times that coin would fall face up and the number of times that it would fall face down and the number of times that it would fall with neither its face up or down is?

Well, in our experimental "n = ∞" situation that ratio is

1 :: 1 :: 1​

isn't that surprising?
 
Aaron Judge's 62nd Home Run was massively more documented.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
I merely cite what those respected and highly verified (well, "circular verified" if you must) theological authorities say "The Truth" is.

"Near worthless" and "worthless" do not mean the same thing.

As is the other side of the coin.

In fact, if you were to do an infinite number of coin tosses where you allowed the coin to land on a perfectly level surface, do you know what the ration between the number of times that coin would fall face up and the number of times that it would fall face down and the number of times that it would fall with neither its face up or down is?

Well, in our experimental "n = ∞" situation that ratio is

1 :: 1 :: 1​

isn't that surprising?
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Anecdotal evidence is as close to worthless as you can get. It all depends on the source, so it is always questionable.

Coin tosses are physical random events subject to probability. Anecdotes are not related.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Really?

And you have an intimate and personal knowledge of why God does things in the way that She does them (assuming, for the sake of discussion, that there is a God)?

Have you told The Pope about this yet?
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Unless a Muslim has Christ as their Savior, then they're in big trouble.

John 3:36 - "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them."
 
Logicman said:
Unless a Muslim has Christ as their Savior, then they're in big trouble.

John 3:36 - "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them."
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I'm sure the Muslims are shaking in their boots.
 
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