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Jesus Christ’s Resurrection Is Probably The Best-Documented Historical Event Ever

Mark, Mathew and John knew Jesus and walked with him.
There is absolutely zero proof as to exactly who the authors of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were.

Which kinda wrecks “credibility” in most peoples eyes.

Then when you consider how many times those fables were edited, revised, and translated over the centuries.., well…
 
There is absolutely zero proof as to exactly who the authors of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were.

Which kinda wrecks “credibility” in most peoples eyes.

Then when you consider how many times those fables were edited, revised, and translated over the centuries.., well…
Not according to this.


Despite its declining numbers, today, Christianity has had great growth throughout the centuries. In the first century alone, in the region of its origin, the growth was so alarming that persecution and death of Christians was condoned by the rulers. Even those rulers who accepted other religious followings.
 
Mark, Mathew and John knew Jesus and walked with him.

If I gave you 6 names now and then told you and others that they walked with the messaih, would you beleive me? If so I'm told Scar, Tristan, Dug, Jody, Pete and Ralph all walked with the messiah yesterday and they said you were wrong. Now, that's two more people than saw so called Jesus, so you MUST beleive me lol. Christians at the core are so gullible.
 
Not according to this.


Despite its declining numbers, today, Christianity has had great growth throughout the centuries. In the first century alone, in the region of its origin, the growth was so alarming that persecution and death of Christians was condoned by the rulers. Even those rulers who accepted other religious followings.

Argumentum ad numerum (argument or appeal to numbers). This fallacy is the attempt to prove something by showing how many people think that it's true. But no matter how many people believe something, that doesn't necessarily make it true or right. Example: "At least 70% of all Americans support restrictions on access to abortions." Well, maybe 70% of Americans are wrong!

 
Argumentum ad numerum (argument or appeal to numbers). This fallacy is the attempt to prove something by showing how many people think that it's true. But no matter how many people believe something, that doesn't necessarily make it true or right. Example: "At least 70% of all Americans support restrictions on access to abortions." Well, maybe 70% of Americans are wrong!

Shouldn't you be directing this fallacy to the one I was responding to?
 
Compelling argument
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Every other consequential person of history came into the world to live. The death of other religious leaders—such as Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Mohammad, and Confucius—brought an anticlimactic end to their lives and their work.

But Christ came into the world as God’s son in order to die and pay the price for man’s sin. His sacrifice was the ultimate climax of his life, done for the benefit of all mankind—opening the way to eternal life in heaven for all who believe.

Of the four major world religions built on personalities, only Christianity claims its founder is still alive, having overcome death through resurrection. No Jew ever believed that, after Abraham died and was interred, his tomb ever became empty. After Buddha died, no disciple ever claimed that he or she saw or spoke to him again.

Chaitanya (1486) went into the Temple one day and never came out, they say He went into the Deity of the Temple.

Francis Bacon (1561), wrote Shakespeare ruled as attorney general and Lord of the House of Commons in England and retired to tour Europe as a mystic alchemist diplomat until the Spanish inquisition caught up with him for two years until his foretold miraculous escape and trek to the Himalayan Mountains where he raised his body. He was tutoring Napoleon in 1800. And working mostly invisibly with the American founders.

Baird T Spalding traveled the Himalayas with Masters 500 years old one who said no one on their mother' or father's family tree had died for fifty generations.

The Great Divine Director has been Ascended for three million of years. He's easy enough to prove, but it could still be your mind.

Lots of people have become immortal here, Tabor, Meru, Gods of the Himalayas and Swiss Alps, Hercules, perhaps Gabriel, Liberty, Oo, the Raybourn Family, Nada, the Queen of Light. The Ballards died to attain their Ascension, but the I am books give the definitive.
 
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Let him have it, Grand Mal. It's Easter and all. Big deal to some. Let him have it.

Sorry. You're right.
Nope. There’s a Theology section here at DP for those who want to get all Kum By Ya this weekend. The rules there specifically prevent comments that are inflammatory or that condemn the topic or belief.


In this section, especially when somebody posts something completely idiotic, it’s fair game regardless of the time/day of year.
 
Nope. There’s a Theology section here at DP for those who want to get all Kum By Ya this weekend. The rules there specifically prevent comments that are inflammatory or that condemn the topic or belief.


In this section, especially when somebody posts something completely idiotic, it’s fair game regardless of the time/day of year.
From Mark

Mark 8:38​

New King James Version​


38 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.”
 
And on the third day, the bunny rose and turned into chocolate.
 
Mark, Mathew and John knew Jesus and walked with him.
Anecdotal and second hand sources, with a probable bias. Hardly valid evidence to support the resurrection. It's the same as saying, "it happened because Jesus' friends said so." That's neither convincing or persuasive.
 
Nope. There’s a Theology section here at DP for those who want to get all Kum By Ya this weekend. The rules there specifically prevent comments that are inflammatory or that condemn the topic or belief.


In this section, especially when somebody posts something completely idiotic, it’s fair game regardless of the time/day of year.
Not exactly.

 
Mark, Mathew and John knew Jesus and walked with him.

That is entirely dishonest, why would you make up such a lie about your own religion.
 
Original sin is not mentioned in the Bible, btw.

Many Christians would rather argue the importance of faith over sin than actually abiding by Jesus's teachings which have a lot of inconvenient messages about not storing up wealth, helping the hungry, the poor, strangers and loving one's enemies.
It was mentioned almost on a daily basis in catholic school back in the early sixties.

As far as 'christians' go, almost all in my opinion fall into the I'll believe the parts I want and discard the parts I don't care for, like the things you mention.
 
Compelling argument
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Every other consequential person of history came into the world to live. The death of other religious leaders—such as Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Mohammad, and Confucius—brought an anticlimactic end to their lives and their work.

But Christ came into the world as God’s son in order to die and pay the price for man’s sin. His sacrifice was the ultimate climax of his life, done for the benefit of all mankind—opening the way to eternal life in heaven for all who believe.

Of the four major world religions built on personalities, only Christianity claims its founder is still alive, having overcome death through resurrection. No Jew ever believed that, after Abraham died and was interred, his tomb ever became empty. After Buddha died, no disciple ever claimed that he or she saw or spoke to him again.


It has no contemporary sources, no eyewitness accounts, no physical evidence.

We have lots of historical events that have all three. Your OP is a lie.
 
Original sin is not mentioned in the Bible, btw.
Not true. It's covered in Romans 5.
Many Christians would rather argue the importance of faith over sin than actually abiding by Jesus's teachings which have a lot of inconvenient messages about not storing up wealth, helping the hungry, the poor, strangers and loving one's enemies.
 
If the resurrection of Jesus was an historical event there would be no reason to ask anyone to have faith and believe that it happened. Apparently, even the people of the time it allegedly happened didn't know it was an historical event, as everyone did not all come running to be a follower.
 
Compelling argument
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Every other consequential person of history came into the world to live. The death of other religious leaders—such as Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Mohammad, and Confucius—brought an anticlimactic end to their lives and their work.

But Christ came into the world as God’s son in order to die and pay the price for man’s sin. His sacrifice was the ultimate climax of his life, done for the benefit of all mankind—opening the way to eternal life in heaven for all who believe.

Of the four major world religions built on personalities, only Christianity claims its founder is still alive, having overcome death through resurrection. No Jew ever believed that, after Abraham died and was interred, his tomb ever became empty. After Buddha died, no disciple ever claimed that he or she saw or spoke to him again.

lol
Sure. We have it on tape
 
Students, Teachers, and Writers

To be Christian teachers, the disciples needed not only to know what Jesus said and did but also to understand how the Law and prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures applied to the Christ. (Acts 18:5) Interestingly, Luke recorded one meeting Jesus had with some of his disciples shortly after his resurrection. What did Jesus do? “Commencing at Moses and all the Prophets he interpreted to them things pertaining to himself in all the Scriptures.” Shortly thereafter, Jesus told the disciples: “‘These are my words which I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written in the law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms about me must be fulfilled.’ Then he opened up their minds fully to grasp the meaning of the Scriptures.” (Luke 24:27, 44, 45) Later, the disciples “called to mind” the insight Jesus had given them.—John 12:16.

These accounts suggest that the apostles and disciples must have applied themselves diligently to searching and studying the Scriptures so that they could fully understand the meaning of what they saw and heard with regard to their Lord, Jesus Christ. (Luke 1:1-4; Acts 17:11) On this, Harry Y. Gamble, professor of religious studies at the University of Virginia, writes: “It can hardly be doubted that from the beginning there were Christians, probably groups of them, who devoted themselves to the close study and interpretation of Jewish scripture, constructing from it the textual warrants [proofs] of Christian convictions and making those texts serviceable for Christian preaching.”

All of this indicates that rather than depending solely on oral transmission, Jesus’ early disciples were very much involved in studying, reading, and writing. They were students, teachers, and writers. Above all, they were spiritual men who relied on the holy spirit to guide them. Jesus assured them that “the spirit of the truth” would ‘bring back to their minds all the things he had told them.’ (John 14:17, 26) God’s holy spirit helped them both to remember and to put into writing what Jesus did and said, even lengthy quotations, such as the Sermon on the Mount. (Matthew, chapters 5-7) The spirit also guided the Gospel writers in recording what Jesus at times felt and what he said in prayer.—Matthew 4:2; 9:36; John 17:1-26.

So while the Gospel writers doubtless made use of both oral and written sources, the things they recorded had a far more reliable and supremely elevated source—Jehovah God himself. Hence, we may have absolute confidence that “all Scripture is inspired of God” and can teach and guide us in doing the things pleasing to him.—2 Timothy 3:16.

Were the Apostles Illiterate?

When the rulers and older men of Jerusalem “beheld the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were men unlettered and ordinary, they got to wondering.” (Acts 4:13) Were the apostles really unlettered, or illiterate? Regarding this assertion, The New Interpreter’s Bible comments: “These terms are probably not to be taken literally as though Peter [and John] were unschooled and could not write or read. They simply recognize the profound difference in social class between those sitting in judgment and the apostles.”
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008641
 
If the resurrection of Jesus was an historical event there would be no reason to ask anyone to have faith and believe that it happened.
Hebrews 11:1
use wishful thinking until you convince yourself that it's a documented historical event. VySky managed to do just that.
 
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