No, as in discriminating, being violent against, etc.
You already showed yourself to me, how you feel about yourself is up to you.
According to you, not so with the SC.:shrug:
Doesn't surprise me.
When people speak of a productive career in the NFL and NBA, they mean the guy was a standout among his peers.
Actually he almost never touches balls. He's a master at riding the pine, though.
I can't believe that everybody is so surprised at his coming out. After all, he has been putting his hands on balls for years. :mrgreen:
Again, if you are going to stay on Collins, I haven't heard of any "coercion". If you are going back to the reasons for the Civil rights act, Equal pay, Employment Non-Discrimination act.....there is plenty of case law to show WHY they evolved.No, you mean being unwilling to do business with someone in terms of hiring, service, etc.
Whatever you need to tell yourself.I showed nothing but a view of private property.
If you have case law supporting your view, show it.Freedom of association
Involuntary servitude.
They violate both.
If you have them saying something about my argument I would love to here it.
It does not surprise me that you cannot figure it out.It's hard to understand things that don't make sense.
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Why NBA center Jason Collins is coming out now
NBA player Jason Collins says he is gay - The Magazine - SI.com
awesome! Many people arent so lucky
Kobe Bryant, Bill Clinton, David Stern and others support Jason Collins
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kobe-bryant-bill-clinton-david-stern-others-support-163319934.html
Very brave, VERY BRAVE
glad to see he has some support too!
opinion noted and not shared. I consider such people to be those who had " hall of fame" or a Pro bowl or All star career. productive means what it says
Productive-Producing or able to produce large amounts of goods, crops, or other commodities.
He doesn't seem productive to me.
opinion noted and not shared. I consider such people to be those who had " hall of fame" or a Pro bowl or All star career. productive means what it says
we will agree to disagree. non productive NBA careers are generally those who are cut in camp
we will agree to disagree. non productive NBA careers are generally those who are cut in camp
Brave? Not in today's America. We have grown up.
id like to believe that but its simply not true yet and many of his players and fellow NBA personal along with ex-players disagree with you.
Heck there are ex-players of many leagues that simply disagree.
There's always gonna be haters, but I like to think the majority of the country is cool with it. You know, being a millennial it's crazy how different societies overall view on LGBT people has changed so much just in my short lifetime. It was totally different when I was younger. I think the rest of the sports community will follow eventually.
He's the first pro in a major league to come out. In today's world, that is a big deal, but I am fairly certain that it will get old in the next few years.
A couple of years ago, a professional rugby player from New Zeland came out, and it proved to be quite tumultuous. That is why professionals are still shy about it. Mark Tewsbury, a Canadian Olympic gold medalist and current public speaker/advocate for gay rights, is aware of some current professional hockey players who are closeted. One wanted to come out a few years back... the press conference was all set-up but he back down at the last minute. I think with the door now open, we'll see a lot more courage.
I highly doubt this will be an easy thing to fight. Most dudes don't want to know there is a gay dude that they are in a changing room with. Sure, by the numbers there should be, but men do not want to know about it. People are free to blast me for that if they want, but I'm just here reporting the facts.
That's what gets to me. In this day and age, it shouldn't take courage to live openly as the person one actually is. However, as some of the hateful and contemptuous posts in this very thread prove, it does take courage. A great deal of courage.
Some posters in here should be ashamed of their bigotry. If they used the word "queer" in a post, everyone else should be ashamed for them.
You should be ashamed for thinking anyone should be as sheeple enough to be ashamed for someone else's behavior. If he'd actually been in the prime years of his career, though the words "prime" and "career" should never again be uttered regarding this bench warmer, I'd agree it would be very courageous. This? This pathetic opportunism. Nothing more. And both on the part of him and the gay propagandists in the media.
Problem is, this guy sucks. No pun iintended.
Wake me when a player of significance comes out, not a nobody looking for an easy gig on the Logo network.
Attention whores are a dime a dozen.
I don't disagree with you. It will be challenging, no doubt about it. But the more athletes that come out, the less stigma that will be attached. Not sure how long it will take, but eventually, most will be accepting... it's just a matter of time.
The biggest myth perpetuated by homophobes is that gay men have any interest in looking at straight dicks in a changing room. It's the same kind of egotistical thinking that allows hormonally weak men to pretend that women want to see them naked in nonsexual circumstances.
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