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Jan. 6 panel asks GOP lawmaker to testify about Capitol tour

There are suspicions about Pelosi. When do you think they will be asking her about the security around the Capitol? Mitch as well.
May as well add Schumer and McCarthy to that list too. Oh wait, the Committee is trying to ask McCarthy questions, but he's peed his panties and unable to speak to the 1/6 Committee. Seriously, I have no idea about when, but our option is to wait until the final report comes out to learn more about the security failures.
 
You, I and millions of other folks will need to wait until the 1/6 Committee's final report comes out to read if additional information aside from the Senate's June report is revealed.
True.

Until then, the 1/6 Committee's blue team has quietly been working on the security failures at the Capitol on 1/6/21.


The documents, committee aides and other officials familiar with them say, shed new light on questions that have been only partly answered so far, including what intelligence came into the FBI, DHS and other agencies in the weeks before Jan. 6, why no formal bulletin was issued and why more wasn’t done to make sure the Capitol Police understood and were prepared for the gravity of the threat.


The blue team, working behind the scenes, has a different focus: to provide what may be the only detailed appraisal of why the government failed to anticipate and stop the coordinated violence that sent federal lawmakers scrambling to safety in their own building.



The June Senate report criticized the Capitol Police for failing to act on threat information and circulate relevant intelligence. But the report had less to say about the FBI and DHS, in part because they hadn’t yet fully responded to requests for documents, officials said.
Still doesn't change that the J6 committee is little more than a politically driven, political Kabuki theater, given that the most consistent political push narrative has been, and will likely continue to be, 'Trump supporters and Republicans are the same as 1/6 'insurrectionists' and a threat to our Democracy', when none of those things are factual or true. 🤷‍♂️
 
I would actually agree with this, if there was the slightest indication that you actually believed it. But years of evidence demonstrates that the entire opposite is true. In thread after thread after thread you will willingly throw anyone you dislike under the bus without a scintilla of evidence, and then bray, obfuscate and object whenever it is one of your preferred oxes being gored, even when there is a plethora of publicly available, irrefutable evidence. Don't you realize how patently obvious you are? It is deliciously hilarious. Good day!
You seem to have me confused with someone else, or are overly broad brushing.

Care to quote some of these alleged posts of mine?
 
There are suspicions about Pelosi. When do you think they will be asking her about the security around the Capitol? Mitch as well.
“suspicions about Pelosi.” That’s like “some has said.”
 
Arresting someone and then investigating is the order of activities.
That's the duty of law enforcement, especially the FBI. I'm wondering though - doesn't law enforcement agencies also detain folks and then question/investigate them?
 
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Don't you realize how patently obvious you are? It is deliciously hilarious. Good day!
It's as if I scripted it.... ROFLAE
 
That's the duty of law enforcement, especially the FBI. I'm wondering though - doesn't law enforcement agencies also detain folks and then question/investigate them also?
No argument about the duty.

If there is sufficient reasonable grounds for suspicion of a crime having been committed by that person, yes.

The point I was making was the order of the tasks, and I noticed a typo in my previous post.

Arresting someone and then investigating is the order of activities.

Normally it is:
  1. Determine if a crime has been committed, and if so
  2. Investigate the crime to determine who committed it
  3. Arrest, charge, and then a criminal trial
This whole idea of 'Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime' is distinctly Soviet, and doesn't belong in the US criminal justice system.
"Arresting someone and then investigating is the order of activities." ==>> "Arresting someone and then investigating is NOT the proper order of activities."
 
Still doesn't change that the J6 committee is little more than a politically driven, political Kabuki theater, given that the most consistent political push narrative has been, and will likely continue to be, 'Trump supporters and Republicans are the same as 1/6 'insurrectionists' and a threat to our Democracy', when none of those things are factual or true. 🤷‍♂️
I always find it funny watching trump sheep bitch about the 1/6 committee and carp about how they are "Theater" or "Dog and Pony show" being that it's been done behind closed doors to this point, you haven't a clue as to what they've done. If it were kabuki theater or a dog and pony show, it would be more like Gym Jordan or Lindsay Graham screaming irrelevancies at tv cameras.
 
Still doesn't change that the J6 committee is little more than a politically driven, political Kabuki theater, given that the most consistent political push narrative has been, and will likely continue to be, 🤷‍♂️
The order of business for the 1/6 Select Committee is to investigate the attempt of an insurrection/coup with intent to impede Congress's validation of the next US president that resulted in a violent assault on the Capitol Building. But, with every committee action in all of Congress, there's political theater involved as well. The nature of the beast. As long as findings come out of this 1/6 Committee, that's the main point for having it.
 
I always find it funny watching trump sheep bitch about the 1/6 committee and carp about how they are "Theater" or "Dog and Pony show" being that it's been done behind closed doors to this point, you haven't a clue as to what they've done. If it were kabuki theater or a dog and pony show, it would be more like Gym Jordan or Lindsay Graham screaming irrelevancies at tv cameras.
Already identified long ago that it is as I and others have described.
Question: What does all this have in common?


Answer: Spin, speculation, innuendo, hyperbole...and lies...with no other purpose than to give the media a slew of talking points.

btw, the same group that orchestrated the hit job on a Supreme Court nominee is controlling this hit job on American citizens.

Sometimes pictures are worth thousands of words. Seeing former DOJ official David Laufman show up at Nancy Pelosi’s J6 Committee hearing explains the pantomime.​
David Laufman is seen below sitting behind committee witness Michael Fanone. Laufman was the DOJ-NSD official who interviewed Hillary Clinton during the fraudulent FBI Clinton email investigation of 2016; Laufman quit the DOJ and started working for Lawfare. Laufman then represented Monica McLean, the best FBI friend of Christine Blasey Ford who helped write the letter to Dianne Feinstein during their effort to block Justice Kavanaugh for SCOTUS Judge.​
Monica McLean was busted by Senator Grassley for witness tampering; and then hired “beach friend” David Laufman to avoid legal trouble. {Go Deep Here and Go Deep Here}.​
What does Laufman showing up at another political pantomime disguised as a hearing tell us?​
It tells us the same Lawfare crew is producing, directing and writing the script for democrats again. The cast of characters, vis-a-vis witnesses, are different; however, the script is exactly the same. This is what they do. This is all political theater, written, directed and produced for public consumption. Nothing more.​

Any questions?
 
The order of business for the 1/6 Select Committee is to investigate the attempt of an insurrection/coup with intent to impede Congress's validation of the next US president that resulted in a violent assault on the Capitol Building. But, with every committee action, there's political theater involved as well. The nature of the beast. As long as findings come out of this 1/6 Committee, that's the main point for having it.
"insurrection/coup" is just so much politically driven overblown hype, and yet this is the basis on which this committee was formed and founded.
"impede Congress" is accurate, and are reflected in the vast majority of the charges filed and trial decisions related to the protest which got out of control.
 
You actually think there is any basis to think that he was giving tours, the day before the attack, to people to help with the attack? First, it's a little crazy to think that, especially without any indication that it happened. Remember that. There is zero indication that this occurred, other than Democrats blurting it out and pointing fingers. But, the committee on unamerican activities is pulling people in on a whim.
Let’s stick to provable facts.

Loudermilk was asked if any tours were given by anyone for any reason on Jan 5. He authored a report that said no, no one gave any tours. Now we know and he admits that he gave a tour.

I want to believe him and give him the benefit of the doubt, but It was so innocent why hide it? Why lie to congress?
 
True.


Still doesn't change that the J6 committee is little more than a politically driven, political Kabuki theater, given that the most consistent political push narrative has been, and will likely continue to be, 'Trump supporters and Republicans are the same as 1/6 'insurrectionists' and a threat to our Democracy', when none of those things are factual or true. 🤷‍♂️


Trump’s sheeple have been telling each other that even before there was a Committee.

And, piece by piece, the Committee has been able to gain the plan for the insurrection, identify about all of the participants, and get one of the conspirators to admit publicly that Trump was a conspirator in overthrowing the government. Now, it is gradually revealing how widesread the knowledge of the plot was amongst the GOP congress and leadership, and are now looking at who in the leadership was also an active participant.

Which is why they’re all trying to hide from invitations and subpoenas.

It’s a pretty clear picture, of a dark and very anti American plot.

And since nearly half the GOP still pledges alliegance to the perpetrator of this plot and his henchmen, it’s pretty easy for anyone ot argue that trump supporters and Republican are the same as 1/6 insurrectionists.
 
Arresting someone and then investigating is the order of activities.

Normally it is:
  1. Determine if a crime has been committed, and if so
  2. Investigate the crime to determine who committed it
  3. Arrest, charge, and then a criminal trial
This whole idea of 'Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime' is distinctly Soviet, and doesn't belong in the US criminal justice system.
1. Determine if a crime may have been committed.
2. Investigate.
3. Charge, arrest the alleged perps.
 
True.


Still doesn't change that the J6 committee is little more than a politically driven, political Kabuki theater, given that the most consistent political push narrative has been, and will likely continue to be, 'Trump supporters and Republicans are the same as 1/6 'insurrectionists' and a threat to our Democracy', when none of those things are factual or true. 🤷‍♂️
Opinion noted
 
You actually think there is any basis to think that he was giving tours, the day before the attack, to people to help with the attack? First, it's a little crazy to think that, especially without any indication that it happened. Remember that. There is zero indication that this occurred, other than Democrats blurting it out and pointing fingers. But, the committee on unamerican activities is pulling people in on a whim.
There are surveillance cameras all over. The panel says they have definitive evidence that he did give a tour. Probably video.

We will see it in due time.
 
The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot is asking GOP Rep. Barry Loudermilk of Georgia about a tour he led of the Capitol complex a day before it was overrun by a mob of Trump supporters, saying they're looking into reports of protestors who scoped out the building ahead of the riot.

The Jan. 6 panel also noted in a letter Thursday to Loudermilk that Republicans on the Committee on House Administration — "of which you are a member" — claimed to have reviewed security video footage of the days leading up to the riot and found "there were no tours, no large groups, no one with [Make America Great Again] hats on."


"However, the Select Committee's review of evidence directly contradicts that denial," said the letter from the Jan. 6 panel's chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., and its vice chair, Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo.

"Based on our review of evidence in the Select Committee's possession, we believe you have information
regarding a tour you led through parts of the Capitol complex on January 5, 2021," the letter said.

 
As long as the Democrats are in control of the House and believe it to be a political advantage to them.


Nope. See comment above.

Pelosi's J6 Select Committee was never about finding the truth (other than their demanded political truth) nor to put into place measures to prevent similar in the future, it was intended designed for nothing more than to baselessly smear any differing political opinions and positions other than their own as insurrectionists, a dire threat to democracy suitable for DOJ classification as domestic terrorists and persecuted as such, when the reality is that the J6 riot which got out of hand, no more so than the so called 'mostly peaceful arsonists in previous riots which got out of control, for perceived political advantage. All that makes the J6 'Select Committee' little more than politically driven political Kabuki theater for the willful political propagandists accomplices media's cameras. A charade.
Unfortunately for the democrats it keeps blowing up in their faces. The Russian Collusion Hoax is now under investigation and adding to Hillary Clintons decades long list of scandals. And when the GOP takes over the House of Reps late next January, the J6 Select Committee will end up under investigation for what it did not investigate. And even the first impeachment of Trump accelerated the investigation of Biden's crack addicted son Hunter, which could ultimately lead to Biden's impeachment.
 
Unfortunately for the democrats it keeps blowing up in their faces. The Russian Collusion Hoax is now under investigation and adding to Hillary Clintons decades long list of scandals. And when the GOP takes over the House of Reps late next January, the J6 Select Committee will end up under investigation for what it did not investigate. And even the first impeachment of Trump accelerated the investigation of Biden's crack addicted son Hunter, which could ultimately lead to Biden's impeachment.
First, there is no investigation of Hillary Clinton. Choose another news outlet. What is happening is that a minor figure was charged with a narrow charge of lying to the FBI because he said he wasn't working for anyone when he spoke to the FBI.
Second, there is no "scandal." Trying to get the press to write uncomplimentary articles about your opponent isn't illegal. Trump did it in spades.
Third, investigate the committee? You mean a retribution driven witchhunt? What the committee is doing, investigating an attack on the Capitol and democracy, Republicans of yesteryear would have applauded. The new GOP are just a bunch of fascist authoritarians, who wanted to overthrow American democracy and don't want anyone looking into their crimes.
Fourth, you need to pour ice water on yourself because having such a boner for Hunter Biden is unhealthy.
 
First, there is no investigation of Hillary Clinton. Choose another news outlet. What is happening is that a minor figure was charged with a narrow charge of lying to the FBI because he said he wasn't working for anyone when he spoke to the FBI.
Second, there is no "scandal." Trying to get the press to write uncomplimentary articles about your opponent isn't illegal. Trump did it in spades.
Third, investigate the committee? You mean a retribution driven witchhunt? What the committee is doing, investigating an attack on the Capitol and democracy, Republicans of yesteryear would have applauded. The new GOP are just a bunch of fascist authoritarians, who wanted to overthrow American democracy and don't want anyone looking into their crimes.
Fourth, you need to pour ice water on yourself because having such a boner for Hunter Biden is unhealthy.
Very little of that rant is anywhere close to coherent. Hillary is absolutely under investigation:


And Hillary has been embroiled in non-stop scandals throughout her career, going all the way back to the 1980s. Next I suppose you will say she was never under investigation for her email scandals. The rest of your post is a combination of ultra partisan fantasy and TDS.
 
Very little of that rant is anywhere close to coherent. Hillary is absolutely under investigation:


And Hillary has been embroiled in non-stop scandals throughout her career, going all the way back to the 1980s. Next I suppose you will say she was never under investigation for her email scandals. The rest of your post is a combination of ultra partisan fantasy and TDS.
Where do you guys find such ridiculous sources?

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Very little of that rant is anywhere close to coherent. Hillary is absolutely under investigation:


And Hillary has been embroiled in non-stop scandals throughout her career, going all the way back to the 1980s. Next I suppose you will say she was never under investigation for her email scandals. The rest of your post is a combination of ultra partisan fantasy and TDS.
Is that the best you can Google -- a six month old commentary from an obscure right-wing newspaper?
I don't think you even realize that when that publication wrote, “Durham told a federal court that he is scrutinizing members of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign as part of his criminal inquiry into the origins and conduct of the Trump-Russia investigation," Durham was referring to Sussman.
Those "Hillary scandals" have all been discredited. List of non-scandals" that the right-wing still can't give up on.

Whitewater, 1992
Travelgate, 1993
Vince Foster Death, 1993
Filegate, 1996
Benghazi, 2012
Clinton Foundation, 2015
Private Email Server, 2015

Are you really going to bang the drum of Hillary's emails when Trump took classified documents with him to Mar-a-Lago when he was thrown out of office?
You are a classic example of today's right-wing that has been so propagandized by falsehoods that you can't even see the truth.
 
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