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It's time - the rich must pay their way!

nvflash said:
I like rich people, just not people that carry water for them, class traitors.
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No you don't

You don't think they're taxed enough when they pay the biggest part of the pie

*sigh*
 
Luther said:
No you don't

You don't think they're taxed enough when they pay the biggest part of the pie

*sigh*
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THEY MAKE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE PIE!!!!

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Woe to the rich, they have to pay tax to the 539 people looking out for their interests above all others.

Good thing they have you looking out for them here at DP, otherwise they's have to survive on their millions and billions.
 
nvflash said:
THEY MAKE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE PIE!!!!

Woe to the rich, they have to pay tax to the 539 people looking out for their interests above all others.

Good thing they have you looking out for them here at DP, otherwise they's have to survive on their millions and billions.
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Woe to the rich, they have to pay tax to the 539 people looking out for their interests above all others.
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Explain?

(Eating popcorn fast)
 
nvflash said:
THEY MAKE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE PIE!!!!

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Woe to the rich, they have to pay tax to the 539 people looking out for their interests above all others.

Good thing they have you looking out for them here at DP, otherwise they's have to survive on their millions and billions.
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they have to pay tax to the 539 people looking out for their interests above all others.
nvflash said:
438 House members, 100 Senators, and 1 President.
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I thought the RICH were in control?

You know, the ones who pay the MAJORITY of the Fed income tax?
 
Luther said:
DEMOCRAT's are in control no?
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Yes, that doesn't mean they don't look after millionaires and billionaires. The is no party looking out for the bottom 80% of the people, that's why they only have 7% of the wealth.
 
nvflash said:
Yes, that doesn't mean they don't look after millionaires and billionaires. The is no party looking out for the bottom 80% of the people, that's why they only have 7% of the wealth.
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I seem to do well with my$30,000 a year
 
nvflash said:
Yes, that doesn't mean they don't look after millionaires and billionaires. The is no party looking out for the bottom 80% of the people, that's why they only have 7% of the wealth.
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So do you keep VOTING for them?
 
nvflash said:
I like rich people, just not people that carry water for them, class traitors.
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I love seeing trailer trash be too stupid to know they’re cutting their own throat.
 
calamity said:
I love seeing trailer trash be too stupid to know they’re cutting their own throat.
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Democrats are only looking out for the rich too.

Republicans just don't even pretend to be working for the bottom 80%, so at least they are honest, when it comes to that.
 
You do realize that the United States has the most progressive tax code in the developed world, right? Meaning, the rich are paying more of total taxes here than anywhere else..... like France....
 
Lafayette said:
Gerrymandering occurs at the state-level of voting both for state and congressional representatives to office.

From Wikipedia:

The words "electoral districts" as employed above mean both state and Federal voting bodies. Last time I looked, the states determined electoral-district boundaries.

Never the less, it is the population of the state that determines the numbers of HofR-members and their districts are evolved accordingly.

From Wikipedia here:



That is, according to the population count that is taken every ten years ...
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Listen I know you are trying to lecture that I don't know what I am talking about but statewide offices cant be gerrymandered, representative districts drawn by the legislature are. You seemed to be stating statewide officers could be gerrymandered and that isn't the case.
 
Lafayette said:
My posts here have been about why it should even exist since it is a mockery of Democracy. It was an idea promoted in 1813 when there was no other democratic country on the planet. So, experience whatsoever with the method.

And, as a result, most Americans think that because the nation is the oldest democracy on earth, then it must be the best. Which is quite simply an evident non-sequitur.

Only the popular-vote in most developed nations derives either the Executive Head of government or the winning party that will install its party-leader ...
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Really. You can present polling or voting as such? That because its the oldest Democracy it always is best, because I think you are just saying what ever you think without any consideration for what most Americans think.

Have you considered Americans don't want a parliamentary system?
 
Luther said:
Right. and $pay$ the BIGGEST part of the pie
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But they obviously don’t pay enough if we have deficits your after year after year. It’s not like we have a huge spending problem compared to GDP.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Really. You can present polling or voting as such? That because its the oldest Democracy it always is best, because I think you are just saying what ever you think without any consideration for what most Americans think.

Have you considered Americans don't want a parliamentary system?
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I'm a Yank but I don't give a damn about what "most Americans think". If I am in this forum today, I think America is genuinely an Unfair Nation in terms of Income Distribution.

I live abroad in a country that is of a nature Social Democrat. And I think precisely that is the formula that Uncle Sam should adopt. Rather than genuflecting at the statue of the Almighty Buck (at whatever the social cost).

I'm no "socialist". But I bend further to the left than most Democrats. And I see the Right for what it is. Wholly consumed by an idea that the accumulation of capital is the Prime Mover of any country.

Nothing could be further from the truth. It is the fair-and-equitable distribution of income that should be a country's objective. Given the fact that economically the country remains capitalist in nature, which it should.

But what does that mean, "the fair and equitable distribution of Income". What it does NOT mean is what is happening today. Whereby today there is a small group accumulating a huge portion of the Wealth on the Right. And on the far Left of the income grid, there is a substantial portion of the nation bereft of a decent standard-of-living.

The evolution of Income Distribution in America 1989 to 2016:
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As indicated above, the bottom 50% of the population (in 2016) garnered barely 13% of total Income! And of the total Household Income Pie-chart 50% goes to the top 10% of income earners.

So, you might like to think-and-complain that "all that money is being wasted on supporting the poor", but the factual evidence is different. Read that evidence above.

In the aggregate the poor are getting unfairly far, far less NET-of-taxation per-capita income than the top Wage Earners! Which is due to the fact that even before Donald Dork reduced it further, upper-income taxation was already too low!

(And I'll bet that if that pie-chart was redone for 2019 (pre-covid) the numbers would look even worse!)

Now, weep at the truth of today's Income Distribution in America. If you will, which I seriously doubt ... !
 
Crovax said:
The top 10% pay 71% of the income tax, how much more should they pay, what is the correct %?
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At the rate the government keeps spending the "wealthy" will need to pay roughly 11,262.78% of their income in tax.
 
calamity said:
Defense contractors benefit immensely from trillion dollar military budgets. The guy owning an import-export business benefits from the navy keeping the shipping lanes open; the guy owning a freight company benefits from the interstate system; advertisers benefit from subsidized postal delivery of junk mail; store owners benefit when customers can pay with food stamps; Section 8 housing developers benefit from tax credits and landlords from government subsidizing the rent of his tenants....need we go on?
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in other words, stuff you cannot prove actually goes to the rich.
aociswundumho said:
Why? France is dirt poor compared to the US.

Household income in the US is 45k.

Household income in France in only 31k.

The bottom 10% in the US are richer than the French middle class:

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Think of Aesop's Fox
 
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