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Gun free zone meet free speech zones.
Students, Lawmakers Push to Ban Restrictive Campus "Free Speech Zones"
Gun free zone meet free speech zones.
Students, Lawmakers Push to Ban Restrictive Campus "Free Speech Zones"
The constitution does not simply limit what policies any organization can have on its own premises.
Gun free zone meet free speech zones.
Students, Lawmakers Push to Ban Restrictive Campus "Free Speech Zones"
It's pretty sad that they restrict free speech to zones and even sadder that they want to ban those zones altogether. I don't think publicly funded institutions should be allowed to deviate from the Constitution.
I don't think any random person should be able to go anywhere on public property and be as disruptive as they like.
The liberal / progressive indoctrination in education marches on. Make no mistake, this is tyranny.
Well said, few indeed see this as the grab for power by government that it is. They forget to count the restrictive laws and constitutional incursion introduced on the back of terrorism and the false flag event of 9/11.
It is not a passing phase and government will not correct itself when the only currency of politics is POWER.
Gun free zone meet free speech zones.
Students, Lawmakers Push to Ban Restrictive Campus "Free Speech Zones"
The Bannerrhoid movement is almost exclusively staffed by left-wingers-ie collectivists, AKA big government types. Of course they oppose individual freedoms that can be used to oppose the creeping crud of collectivism
The liberal / progressive indoctrination in education marches on. Make no mistake, this is tyranny.
“Free-Speech Zoneâ€� | The American ConservativeWhen Bush travels around the United States, the Secret Service visits the location ahead of time and orders local police to set up “free speech zones” or “protest zones” where people opposed to Bush policies (and sometimes sign-carrying supporters) are quarantined. These zones routinely succeed in keeping protesters out of presidential sight and outside the view of media covering the event.
Uhh...are we just pretending free speech zones, which restrict freedom of speech, haven't been around for a long time and used by more than just "liberals/left-wingers"?
“Free-Speech Zone� | The American Conservative
I don't think any random person should be able to go anywhere on public property and be as disruptive as they like.
I don't think any random person should be able to go anywhere on public property and be as disruptive as they like.
Free speech is disruptive?
the false flag event of 9/11.
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Absolutely it can be disruptive, which is the precise reason we have a legal system that can help adjudicate situations where ones freedom of speech oversteps it's bounds because it conflicts with the rights of other people.
For example, if an outside community activist came onto campus and began leading an exceedingly loud and raucus crowd in chants directly outside the window of classroom in the Criminal Justice department of a university, causing the students significant difficulty in hearing the professor that they're paying serious dollars to have lecture to them, that would arguably be a case where said speech is absolutely disruptive to a degree that is problematic. And the university should absolutely have recourse in such a situation to remove those people disturbing the peace.
HOWEVER, what they shouldn't do is deem that the public area around the Criminal Justice building as being a location that "free speech" isn't applicable, coming up with a preconceived judgement that any outside entity attempting to utilize their speech on that part of the campus will be "disruptive".
Free speech is disruptive? You really have a problem with free speech, don't you. Maybe it is the entitled attitude of snowflake "don't hurt my feelings with reality" crowd that is disruptive. This is right in line with the argument that "my wife made pissed me off so she made me beat her" argument.
Your argument seemed to be that speech should be unlimited anywhere on public property. That position is absurd if you intend to extend it to college classrooms and faculty offices.
Have you ever seen these screaming religious lunatics ?
If they're being a disruption to the point of violating the public properties listed guidelines or the law, then action should be taken. That is significantly different than prejudging anyone external to the public university as being someone who will cause a disruption and thus seeking to limit the locations on public grounds they are allowed to utilize free speech in a precautionary nature.
I have been on the CSU campus a lot. It is pretty quiet. We don't have a lot of screaming lunatics around here. Boulder attracts all forms of strangeness.
Well at SJSU we had this one nutcase who would wear giant signs and run around, spitting in our faces about how we were all going to hell unless we repent.
We also had this (homeless?) woman who would drag her "hungry" kids around to beg for money. I was pretty strained from a budgetary standpoint myself, but i gave her five dollars and she asked "You don't have a $20?"
Students are there to learn. If people create problems on campus, they shouldn't be expected to have wholly unfettered access to speech.
That isn't free speech you are referring to. Spitting on someone is assault. Who cares if he is wearing a sign? How does that damage you? If he approaches people in an offensive manner he is disturbing the peace. It is a shame that it isn't legal to slap him upside his head to teach him some manners.
That isn't free speech you are referring to. Spitting on someone is assault. Who cares if he is wearing a sign? How does that damage you? If he approaches people in an offensive manner he is disturbing the peace. It is a shame that it isn't legal to slap him upside his head to teach him some manners.
Yeah, umm, I was talking about the fact free speech zones were regularly used during the last Republican presidency. The Republican Party, as you might know, hardly bills themselves as leftwing.I can only speak for myself but I know that speech codes at universities are generally instigated by leftwing PC nanny types...trashed by leftwing scum
They didn't say they were prejudging anyone external.
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