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It turns out that Russia DID NOT attack Ukraine

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia did not attack Ukraine, Interfax reported on Thursday.


"We do not plan to attack other countries, we did not attack Ukraine either," Lavrov said at a press conference when asked if Russia was going to attack other countries. According to Interfax, the foreign minister said that the situation arose because no one listened to Russia's demands.
Based on this reporting it seems that Russia's actions were purely DEFENSIVE and due solely to the pending attack by Ukraine on Russian territory...which had been Ukrainian territory before Russia took it over in 2014.

Oh! Almost forgot. Also "US/Ukrainian alliance producing bioweapons"

See, this was all just a big misunderstanding!
 
That's intended for the domestic audience. Russians are truly in the dark when it comes to information.
They've been told that a Fascist faction has taken power in Ukraine and the Russian Army is just there to root them out.
 
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Based on this reporting it seems that Russia's actions were purely DEFENSIVE and due solely to the pending attack by Ukraine on Russian territory...which had been Ukrainian territory before Russia took it over in 2014.

Oh! Almost forgot. Also "US/Ukrainian alliance producing bioweapons"

See, this was all just a big misunderstanding!

Shut the **** up

This is just trolling and deliberate posting of misinformation
 
https://stgdesktopcore.jpost.com/om...source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation


Based on this reporting it seems that Russia's actions were purely DEFENSIVE and due solely to the pending attack by Ukraine on Russian territory...which had been Ukrainian territory before Russia took it over in 2014.

Oh! Almost forgot. Also "US/Ukrainian alliance producing bioweapons"

See, this was all just a big misunderstanding!

The "alternate facts" were obviously learned from Trumpism.
 
Shut the **** up

This is just trolling and deliberate posting of misinformation

I'm pretty sure Lutherf is being ironic, multivita-man. He is not a pro-Russian troll. He has been castigating Russia and Putin for the last two weeks.
 
Yea, not really. Whether you were for the war or not, not a good analogy.

Actually, it was a good analogy. Iraq was just about to blow up NYC with their dirty nuclear device that they didnt have.
Plus Saddam killed those 100 Kurds, so the US had to go in and murder a million Iraqis in order to avenge that.
 
He coudn't prove that he didn't have WMDs.

LOL! We couldn't prove he DID have them. It was all bullshit.

What were we supposed to do? Take his word for it?

LOL! No, we're supposed to attack that nation and destroy it!

Apparently all that's needed is for the CIA to sell it to you through the media.
 
LOL! We couldn't prove he DID have them. It was all bullshit.



LOL! No, we're supposed to attack that nation and destroy it!

Apparently all that's needed is for the CIA to sell it to you through the media.

According to the Gulf War Ceasefire (UNSCR 687, I believe), the burden of proof was on him. After a dozen years he still wasn't in compliance... so the invasion was completely justified. The Gulf War never really ended until after he was deposed.
 
You should stop reading right here
"Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said"
There, that was easy.
 
LOL! We couldn't prove he DID have them. It was all bullshit.



LOL! No, we're supposed to attack that nation and destroy it!

Apparently all that's needed is for the CIA to sell it to you through the media.

JEWISH SPACE LASERS!!!!
 
Actually, it was a good analogy. Iraq was just about to blow up NYC with their dirty nuclear device that they didnt have.
Plus Saddam killed those 100 Kurds, so the US had to go in and murder a million Iraqis in order to avenge that.
I was not in favor of invading Iraq but that doesn't change the fact that it is not analogous to Putin invading Ukraine.
 
Yes we did. We were told that Saddam had WMDs and his plans included imminent attack on US and its interests.
I don’t remember that second part.
 
The warped logic of Russians by way of Putin believe that Ukraine is intrinsically entwined with Russia. That what happens in Ukraine is like it happens in Russia. I guess this is because so many that live in Ukraine are Russian or married to a Russian or have a Russian parent or grandparent. They speak Russian.

So when Ukrainians revolted in 2014 and overthrew the sitting President who was pro Russia, it was viewed by Russians as illegal and an offense to the Russians living there. From that date on there has been a civil war in some regions. Putin sees himself as saving Russians from the illegal government in Ukraine who is oppressing them. Forcing them to speak Ukrainian instead of their native Russian language. That the civil war in the Donbas as Nazis killing the Russians there.

Putin seems to really believe this shit, that he is defending Russians. This I guess is why calling it a war is considered by him not correct.
 
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