davidtaylorjr
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If you weren't in denial mode, I wouldn't have to keep repeating it.
What stunt? Only ones pulling stunts are the Democrats.
You're trying to hard. You don't have to pretend you actually believe the rightwing agitprop. It's OK just to repeat it.
Talking is not necessarily negotiating ......but, will Reid let him?
It seems to me I remember Obama saying something about him not getting into any negotiations with Boehner. But here he is, suggesting he'll talk. Will Reid be comfortable with that, I wonder? Reid has seemed to enjoy being in the driver's seat up till now and shows no sign of giving it up.
So what is going on here? Is this some kind of rope-a-dope tactic cooked up by Reid and Obama? Or are these two guys no longer on the same page?
I have a funny feeling that liberals across the country are not going to like what is happening here.
Then you would have to believe the fact that Bohner and the House asked for a concession from the Senate and the President that they knew would be impossible thus knowing that the government would shut down when they asked for it ...Right?I believe facts.
Then you would have to believe the fact that Bohner and the House asked for a concession from the Senate and the President that they knew would be impossible thus knowing that the government would shut down when they asked for it ...Right?
That is a fact, so you must believe it.
It is like, if I went to my employer and asked them to pay me a million dollars and hour and when they threw me out, I were to say, "It's their fault I was fired not mine, because they refused to negotiate with me".
Petty ad homs isn't helping your credibilty or your arguement very much, David.
Then you would have to believe the fact that Bohner and the House asked for a concession from the Senate and the President that they knew would be impossible thus knowing that the government would shut down when they asked for it ...Right?
That is a fact, so you must believe it.
It is like, if I went to my employer and asked them to pay me a million dollars and hour and when they threw me out, I were to say, "It's their fault I was fired not mine, because they refused to negotiate with me".
Congressmen don't have a lot of credibility right now.
So there's no requirement to prioritize then, whether it would be allowed. And per iguanaman the treasury says their procedure makes it impossible to pay only debt service. Seems unlikely we're going to prioritize. So does it revert to first in first out? Everything gets paid ... eventually? A short delay early in the default and as time goes on our payments are more and more delayed?
Then you would have to believe the fact that Bohner and the House asked for a concession from the Senate and the President that they knew would be impossible thus knowing that the government would shut down when they asked for it ...Right?
That is a fact, so you must believe it.
It is like, if I went to my employer and asked them to pay me a million dollars and hour and when they threw me out, I were to say, "It's their fault I was fired not mine, because they refused to negotiate with me".
I questioned this in another string but got no response so I will try here.
Why is it legal (if it is) for the President to "waive" or "delay implementation" a portion of a law?
So...Obama went back on his word to stay out of negotiations and let the two houses of Congress hash things out and extended an offer to the House to negotiate. The House basically gave into the President and made him the offer he wanted. But then what happened?
Focus on Senate after Obama rejects House plan - Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan and Burgess Everett - POLITICO.com
So what happened? Did Reid tell Obama to butt out? Is this the rope-a-dope tactic I mentioned in my OP? Can anyone seriously think Obama or Reid have any intention of negotiating anything?
If Boehner were to ask my advice, I tell him to go back to playing hardball, tell the public about Reid's and Obama's intentions of not making a single deal and letting the chips fall where they may.
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