Virgil Jones
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The most quoted claims are easily refutable. I can provide transcripts which most leftists on CNN are to lazy to read.
TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO
CNN should be forced to apologize for this lie. They keep repeating the same "Fine people on both sides" lie over, and over.
Trump should sue them.
Still, night after night, CNN continues to claim that Trump is racist, based on the lie that they tell about the above quote. They say that Trump called Nazis "very fine people". CNN continues to share this lie, night after night, as the whole basis that Trump is a racist
How long are you going to keep talking to yourself?
What's your standard of proof?
Are you mad about this thread? Standard of proof would actual racism. Not just an oft repeated lie.
The most quoted claims are easily refutable. I can provide transcripts which most leftists on CNN are to lazy to read.
TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO
Heh. What's your standard of proof? A written confession? A full chest tattoo of a swastika? A little Hitler mustache?
How long are you going to keep talking to yourself?
What's your standard of proof?
The most quoted claims are easily refutable. I can provide transcripts which most leftists on CNN are to lazy to read.
TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO
I know some people disagree with me on this, but in his heart of hearts, is he really, a racist... I don't know.
But here's what I do know, Trump supporters don't understand how proof works, they seem to think without a white hood, going around with burning crosses shouting nigger, one can't possibly be a racist.
Here's one thing I absolutely do know for a fact, he absolutely meant to appeal to racists, starting with the obviously racist Birtherism, Trump supporters want to forget that little tid bit, but I sure won't.
Islamaphobia has been a way for White Nationalists to tap into the mainstream to great affect, and he leans into that one, full pelt, his lies about muslims celebrating in New Jersey, the Muslim Ban, spreading Islamaphobic propaganda by a British Hate Group on Twitter, not exactly dog whistling, more like megaphoning.
His handling of Charlottesville, questioning a judges impartiality based on his ethnicity, just a few other things you can point to...
All, taken together doesn't paint a very good picture, but Trump supporters don't care, they simply move the goalposts and nothing short of again, a white hood, burning crosses and shouting the word nigger from the rooftops and EVEN THEN I'll bet they'd say "well... Robert Byrd!".
So, their thoughts on this subject are not necessary, they do not matter.
My standard of proof would actually be for someone to be racist.
I know some people disagree with me on this, but in his heart of hearts, is he really, a racist... I don't know.
But here's what I do know, Trump supporters don't understand how proof works, they seem to think without a white hood, going around with burning crosses shouting nigger, one can't possibly be a racist.
Here's one thing I absolutely do know for a fact, he absolutely meant to appeal to racists, starting with the obviously racist Birtherism, Trump supporters want to forget that little tid bit, but I sure won't.
Islamaphobia has been a way for White Nationalists to tap into the mainstream to great affect, and he leans into that one, full pelt, his lies about muslims celebrating in New Jersey, the Muslim Ban, spreading Islamaphobic propaganda by a British Hate Group on Twitter, not exactly dog whistling, more like megaphoning.
His handling of Charlottesville, questioning a judges impartiality based on his ethnicity, just a few other things you can point to...
All, taken together doesn't paint a very good picture, but Trump supporters don't care, they simply move the goalposts and nothing short of again, a white hood, burning crosses and shouting the word nigger from the rooftops and EVEN THEN I'll bet they'd say "well... Robert Byrd!".
So, their thoughts on this subject are not necessary, they do not matter.
And tell us how we would recognize racism if we saw it. And don't say "it would be racism."
If Trump did something racist, I would call it racist.
Heh. What's your standard of proof? A written confession? A full chest tattoo of a swastika? A little Hitler mustache?
Sure, JBM, maybe he does wear a white hood, burn crosses on the front lawns of black homeowners and shouts the N words regularly, but how do you know he's racist IN HIS HEART?
The most quoted claims are easily refutable. I can provide transcripts which most leftists on CNN are to lazy to read.
TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO
Hooookay.
The proof is in his endorsements and support by White supremacist groups. They know a kindred soul better than anyone.
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