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Israeli Spyware that Reportedly Helped Kill Jamal Khashoggi Found in USA as Well

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Some of the world’s most sophisticated Android and iPhone spyware has been found floating around America for the first time. It's one of as many as 45 countries in which NSO Group malware was uncovered. And together they may represent breaches of American and other nations' computer crime laws against cross-border hacking, not to mention a severe concern for citizens’ privacy, according to the researchers who uncovered the professional spy software.

The malware of concern, dubbed Pegasus, is the creation of NSO Group, an Israeli company valued at close to $1 billion. It can hide on Apple or Google devices, spying via the camera, listening in on conversations through the microphone, stealing documents and siphoning off once-private messages, amongst other surreptitious activities.

NSO has always protested that its tools are designed to be used to track the most heinous criminals, from terrorists to drug cartels. But the company has been caught up in spying scandals in Mexico and the United Arab Emirates. In both cases, civil rights organizations were up in arms that the iPhone malware had targeted activists, journalists and lawyers, among others who appeared entirely innocent of any crimes. Just last month, Forbes reported that an Amnesty researcher focusing on issues in the UAE had been targeted by NSO spyware. And most recently, leaked emails included in lawsuits in Israel and Cyprus against NSO Group appeared to show the company had hacked the phone of a journalist working at an Arab newspaper.

According to Edward Snowden, Israeli spy firm NSO Group— which sells sophisticated hacking tools to governments, militaries, and intelligence agencies — was used to track and eventually murder Khashoggi at the Saudi Embassy in Istanbul last month.

The firm is reportedly behind the hacking tool for iPhones that forced Apple to issue a critical software update in 2016, and its Pegasus spyware, which enables hackers to access messages, photos, microphone, and camera, and has reportedly been used by governments to keep an eye on dissidents abroad.

Speaking remotely on Tuesday, Snowden said the Saudis targeted Khashoggi because they had infected the devices of one of his contacts — another Saudi dissident — living in Canada.

Snowden asked why Khashoggi was targeted. "How did they know what [Khashoggi's] plans and intentions were, how did they decide that he was someone they needed to act against, who was worth the risk," he said.

Snowden said the Saudis were able to procure information on Khashoggi by using the Israeli spy tools.

"The reality is that they bugged one of his few friends and contacts using software created by an Israeli company," Snowden claimed, which may have helped the Saudis keep tabs on Khashoggi and lure him to the consulate.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomas...rful-israeli-smartphone-spyware/#3e1f087c72ff

https://www.businessinsider.com/edw...asus-jamal-khashoggi-murder-2018-11?r=UK&IR=T

More amazing revelations about our terrific ally Israel. As I recall, the original story from Sept about Israeli spyware floating around the USA garnered virtually no interest from the MSM or intelligence agencies in the USA, so I'd assume they're also in support of what NSO is doing with Israel's blessing.

I wonder who else is currently under surveillance , or possibly even being tracked for the purpose of murder?
 

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More amazing revelations about our terrific ally Israel. As I recall, the original story from Sept about Israeli spyware floating around the USA garnered virtually no interest from the MSM or intelligence agencies in the USA, so I'd assume they're also in support of what NSO is doing with Israel's blessing.

I wonder who else is currently under surveillance , or possibly even being tracked for the purpose of murder?

If you were a conservative influence during the Obama administration you were likely spied on by Obama-controlled government officials for political purposes.
 

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So an Israeli company develops spyware that every other country (US included) is keen on buying (and does).

Big deal.

Ah, but here it's da Jooz. :roll:
 

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So an Israeli company develops spyware that every other country (US included) is keen on buying (and does).

Big deal.

Ah, but here it's da Jooz. :roll:

NSO Group was founded by Israeli governmental employees. Now they're selling their spyware to horrible elements for the purpose of murdering journalists, and it's turned up on devices in my country. That's severely troubling.

Saying, 'big deal....its da jooz' just highlights your willingness to automatically condone any immoral behavior Israel engages in, simply because they're 'da jooz'.
 

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NSO Group was founded by Israeli governmental employees. Now they're selling their spyware to horrible elements for the purpose of murdering journalists, and it's turned up on devices in my country. That's severely troubling.

Saying, 'big deal....its da jooz' just highlights your willingness to automatically condone any immoral behavior Israel engages in, simply because they're 'da jooz'.

"Immoral behavior Israel engages in"?
You're referring to a spyware created by an Israeli company, not by the Israeli state. Not that there's anything immoral in that as you desperately try (and laughably fail) to portray, but it's nothing to do with the state of Israel and more with an Israeli private company, with private people.

Your willingness to blame the Jewish state is so strong and your promoted fascism in doing so is quite sickening.
Attributing the work of private citizens to the state, thus choosing to see no difference between a citizen of a country and the country itself, is exactly what fascism is about.
You've done something even more remarkably stupid and fascistic previously with your thread referring to the claims of some Israeli journalists in an Israeli far-left paper as the claims of the state of Israel itself.
This deep belief in fascism is quite disgusting but more than that it's just so monstrously pathetic and extremely sad.
 

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"Immoral behavior Israel engages in"?
You're referring to a spyware created by an Israeli company, not by the Israeli state. Not that there's anything immoral in that as you desperately try (and laughably fail) to portray, but it's nothing to do with the state of Israel and more with an Israeli private company, with private people.

Your willingness to blame the Jewish state is so strong and your promoted fascism in doing so is quite sickening.
Attributing the work of private citizens to the state, thus choosing to see no difference between a citizen of a country and the country itself, is exactly what fascism is about.
You've done something even more remarkably stupid and fascistic previously with your thread referring to the claims of some Israeli journalists in an Israeli far-left paper as the claims of the state of Israel itself.
This deep belief in fascism is quite disgusting but more than that it's just so monstrously pathetic and extremely sad.
It's the proverbial Pavlovian effect, 'cept that no dog's mouth is watering at the sound of the bell, but somebody else's mouth foams at the mention of "Jews".

The spyware in question was incidentally initiated on the Jewish cemetery in Prague, where leading Jewish figures congregate every one-hundred years to compare notes on how far their endeavours to gain world power have progressed.

All in the middle of the night and to the sound of owls and flitting bats (I hear a golem goes around as well). :lamo

The foaming is by no means confined to Israel, nor (for that matter) to just this single group of people, and does indeed constitute a pitiful affliction.

The irony of White Aryan Supremacy actually rooting in its blatant inferiority of intellect.
 

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"Immoral behavior Israel engages in"?
You're referring to a spyware created by an Israeli company, not by the Israeli state.

It might as well have been. The founders of NSO Group all have direct ties to high positions of government.


Not that there's anything immoral in that as you desperately try (and laughably fail) to portray, but it's nothing to do with the state of Israel and more with an Israeli private company, with private people.

NSO Group's spyware was used to stalk journalists in Mexico and the UAE before it was used to trap Khashoggi. Those journalists were not connected to terrorism or any of the groups that Pegasus is supposed to be used on. Yet Israel never bothered investigating why the Pegasus spyware kept falling into the wrong hands.

Your willingness to blame the Jewish state is so strong and your promoted fascism in doing so is quite sickening.
Attributing the work of private citizens to the state, thus choosing to see no difference between a citizen of a country and the country itself, is exactly what fascism is about.
You've done something even more remarkably stupid and fascistic previously with your thread referring to the claims of some Israeli journalists in an Israeli far-left paper as the claims of the state of Israel itself.
This deep belief in fascism is quite disgusting but more than that it's just so monstrously pathetic and extremely sad.

That's really the height of irony- you accusing me of practicing fascism. Back to the subject matter; what is the Israeli government doing about NSO Group's involvement in the Khashoggi murder? Nothing as far as I can tell. This validates suspicions about the Israeli government condoning the murder, or at least condoning the sale of Spyware products used for the murder.

NSO Group's spyware is supposed to be sold for the purpose of "providing authorized governments with technology that helps them combat terror and crime". Yet there's undeniable proof that it's being used to stalk, and even kill journalists. Israel is most responsible for policing NSO Group, and finding out why their products are being used for illicit purposes. Failure to act can be viewed as complicity.
 

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....................fitting how a supremacist might confirm own inferiority of intellect by not being able to distinguish intellect from intelligence.

Priceless in its comical value of underlining exactly that point, more hilarious still in the delusion of having scored one.
 
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It might as well have been. The founders of NSO Group all have direct ties to high positions of government.




NSO Group's spyware was used to stalk journalists in Mexico and the UAE before it was used to trap Khashoggi. Those journalists were not connected to terrorism or any of the groups that Pegasus is supposed to be used on. Yet Israel never bothered investigating why the Pegasus spyware kept falling into the wrong hands.



That's really the height of irony- you accusing me of practicing fascism. Back to the subject matter; what is the Israeli government doing about NSO Group's involvement in the Khashoggi murder? Nothing as far as I can tell. This validates suspicions about the Israeli government condoning the murder, or at least condoning the sale of Spyware products used for the murder.

NSO Group's spyware is supposed to be sold for the purpose of "providing authorized governments with technology that helps them combat terror and crime". Yet there's undeniable proof that it's being used to stalk, and even kill journalists. Israel is most responsible for policing NSO Group, and finding out why their products are being used for illicit purposes. Failure to act can be viewed as complicity.

Most of the private people dealing in such things in real life have previously worked for the intelligence communities of their respective states, it doesn't mean that a private person is suddenly a country now, that's the fascism mentality and that's something that should have been long gone from this planet and sadly is still kept alive by the those cherishing hatred and ignorance.

A spyware can be used by anyone. There's American spyware being used by Russians and vice versa. It's beyond ridiculous to try and attribute the nationality of its creators to what is being done with it. It's stupid, it's fascism incarnate, and it's quite pathetic.
 

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So an Israeli company develops spyware that every other country (US included) is keen on buying (and does).

Big deal.

Ah, but here it's da Jooz. :roll:

YES! DA JOOZ KILLED JAMAL KHASHOGGI, not the poor misunderstood and unimpeachable Saudis.

Geezus.
 

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....................fitting how a supremacist might confirm own inferiority of intellect by not being able to distinguish intellect from intelligence.

Priceless in its comical value of underlining exactly that point, more hilarious still in the delusion of having scored one.

Considering that no index exists for measuring intellect, the IQ test is the closest substitute. Of course it's not an exact indication of intellect, but is it probable that those of mediocre IQ would possess a great degree of intellect? No. Is it probable that the countries scoring higher than average in IQ would possess a low degree of intellect? No.

Perhaps Israel's mediocre degree of IQ explains why they constantly accuse countries that score higher in IQ of being unfairly against them; their lesser collective IQ carries with it a lesser degree of intellect, which prohibits them from viewing the world objectively and understanding how they appear to those countries with a greater average IQ.

Now, since you want to offer your snarky commentary to every post I make, while being too small & petty to actually reply directly to me, I'm going to cease replying to you. Off you go now.
 

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YES! DA JOOZ KILLED JAMAL KHASHOGGI, not the poor misunderstood and unimpeachable Saudis.

Geezus.

For someone who complains daily about foreign interests polluting America with corruption (Russia), you seem remarkably at ease with a foreign company dumping spyware into your country, and assisting in the illegal stalking of journalists. I don't wonder why that is.
 

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Most of the private people dealing in such things in real life have previously worked for the intelligence communities of their respective states, it doesn't mean that a private person is suddenly a country now, that's the fascism mentality and that's something that should have been long gone from this planet and sadly is still kept alive by the those cherishing hatred and ignorance.

There are currently two lawsuits proceeding against NSO, which will hopefully illuminate the connections between the company and those within the Israeli government who are enabling it. Time and time again we've witnessed high ranking members of the Israeli government coordinating with unsavory and illegitimate forces, and this situation appears to be no exception. I find it hard to believe that no current Israeli officials are connected to NSO Group in some manner which would explain why they've been allowed to sell their spyware for the exact opposite purposes as stated.

A spyware can be used by anyone. There's American spyware being used by Russians and vice versa.

They're breaking wiretapping and export laws by dealing spyware to Russia.

It's beyond ridiculous to try and attribute the nationality of its creators to what is being done with it. It's stupid, it's fascism incarnate, and it's quite pathetic.

It's also true that NSO was founded by Israeli intelligence officers, operates with no scrutiny in Israel, and apparently with the blessing of the Israeli government, and sold the stalking program used for the murder of a journalist. Is anyone in your government asking for even an inquiry into the case? No.
 

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There are currently two lawsuits proceeding against NSO, which will hopefully illuminate the connections between the company and those within the Israeli government who are enabling it. Time and time again we've witnessed high ranking members of the Israeli government coordinating with unsavory and illegitimate forces, and this situation appears to be no exception. I find it hard to believe that no current Israeli officials are connected to NSO Group in some manner which would explain why they've been allowed to sell their spyware for the exact opposite purposes as stated.



They're breaking wiretapping and export laws by dealing spyware to Russia.



It's also true that NSO was founded by Israeli intelligence officers, operates with no scrutiny in Israel, and apparently with the blessing of the Israeli government, and sold the stalking program used for the murder of a journalist. Is anyone in your government asking for even an inquiry into the case? No.

You're basically just repeating yourself at this point.
Private citizens are private citizens. Your attempt to attribute the spyware (and again nothing immoral with simply developing one) to a state is a failure and an expression of sad and pathetic fascism.
 

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Considering that no index exists for measuring intellect, the IQ test is the closest substitute. Of course it's not an exact indication of intellect, but is it probable that those of mediocre IQ would possess a great degree of intellect? No. Is it probable that the countries scoring higher than average in IQ would possess a low degree of intellect? No.

Perhaps Israel's mediocre degree of IQ explains why they constantly accuse countries that score higher in IQ of being unfairly against them; their lesser collective IQ carries with it a lesser degree of intellect, which prohibits them from viewing the world objectively and understanding how they appear to those countries with a greater average IQ.

Now, since you want to offer your snarky commentary to every post I make, while being too small & petty to actually reply directly to me, I'm going to cease replying to you. Off you go now.

That's just blatant racism and there's no sense in it.
You're just showing the truth in Chagos' words referring to the irony of racism in trying to attack others for a lack of intelligence when racism itself is an expression of humanity's greatest stupidity and the lowest level of intelligence it has to offer.
 

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That's just blatant racism and there's no sense in it.
You're just showing the truth in Chagos' words referring to the irony of racism in trying to attack others for a lack of intelligence when racism itself is an expression of humanity's greatest stupidity and the lowest level of intelligence it has to offer.

Tell us, which race are you?
 

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You're basically just repeating yourself at this point.
Private citizens are private citizens. Your attempt to attribute the spyware (and again nothing immoral with simply developing one) to a state is a failure and an expression of sad and pathetic fascism.

Israel has a penchant for protecting law breakers from justice, if their crimes harmed people outside of the country.
 

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Israel has a penchant for protecting law breakers from justice, if their crimes harmed people outside of the country.

Who is the law breaker you're referring to keeping in relevance with this thread?
This thread is about an expression of extreme fascism trying to attribute a specific usage of a tool to the ones who created that tool and had nothing to do with its usage and then continue further to attribute the nationality of those who created it so to create a weird and twisted chain of explanations to try (and fail) to justify one's desperate attempt to bash a country.
 

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That's just blatant racism and there's no sense in it.
You're just showing the truth in Chagos' words referring to the irony of racism in trying to attack others for a lack of intelligence when racism itself is an expression of humanity's greatest stupidity and the lowest level of intelligence it has to offer.
When anyone starts citing comparative charts on the IQ of nations in support of supposed superiority of any which one over any which other, we know the amount of intellectual over-challenge that person has already afflicted him- or herself with.

I was going to say (in confirmation of said intellectual over-challenge), just wait til the argument comes up that Jews are not a race and Jew haters thus cannot be racist.

To then see it already attempted and confirming even more the lack of intellect addressed.

Yup, down the cellar stairs it definitely was and, by all appearances, a darn long flight of stairs as well.:lol:
 

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For someone who complains daily about foreign interests polluting America with corruption (Russia), you seem remarkably at ease with a foreign company dumping spyware into your country, and assisting in the illegal stalking of journalists. I don't wonder why that is.

For someone that constantly posts Islamophobic and bigoted threads, it's no surprise at all when you switch gears and toss out an Antisemitic thread also.
 

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Global Survey...

ADL About the Survey...

Take a look at the survey questions. And maybe think about them and how they interplay with this thread?

Edit. You know what, here they are:

As with previous public opinion research conducted by ADL in the United States, survey respondents who said at least 6 out of the 11 statements are "probably true" are considered to harbor anti-Semitic attitudes. The Index Score for each country represents the percentage of adults in that specific country who answered "probably true" to a majority of the anti-Semitic stereotypes tested.

The following are the eleven statements that constitute the ADL GLOBAL 100 anti-Semitism index:

1 Jews are more loyal to Israel than to [this country/the countries they live in]*
2 Jews have too much power in international financial markets
3 Jews have too much control over global affairs
4 Jews think they are better than other people
5 Jews have too much control over the global media
6 Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars
7 Jews have too much power in the business world
8 Jews don't care what happens to anyone but their own kind
9 People hate Jews because of the way Jews behave
10 Jews have too much control over the United States government
11 Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust

* Respondents living in countries with an estimated Jewish population greater than 10,000, or more than 0.1% of the overall population, or where ADL has surveyed in the past were read the statement "Jews are more loyal to Israel than to this country." Respondents residing elsewhere were read the statement "Jews are more loyal to Israel than to the countries they live in."

Country-specific figures of the number of people who harbor anti-Semitic views are rounded estimates derived from the country's Index Score multiplied by its estimated adult population. These figures are subject to the same margin of sampling error as the country's survey results.
 

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For someone that constantly posts Islamophobic and bigoted threads, it's no surprise at all when you switch gears and toss out an Antisemitic thread also.
Nothing new either.

If you're not Aryan you ain't like wot we am.:lol:
 
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