MondoManDevout
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Hey guys. This post is actually in response to a blog I came across. Here's the URL - http://journals.aol.com/ibspiccoli4life/RandomThoughtsfromaProgressiveMi/entries/119
I'm a moderate Democrat, so for the most part I found your article to be on the level. But if there were one key reason that my politics over the last couple of years has shifted from liberal to centrist (I'm 19 yrs old btw), it's your, and your ilks take on the Israeli/Palestinean conflict. Let's start with the pre-modern history. I'm agnostic, and I'm betting you're atheist, or, at most, Quaker. *snicker* So we can put aside any notions of a Biblical claim to the Holy Land. Not necessarily label them as false, but . . .we don't know. What is known and irrefutable however, is that the Hebrew people were staked on the land of Palestine thousands of years ago, before any Arab set foot in the region. Through the history books, however, it becomes known that time and again, they were to be dislodged from their homeland by invading armies from North, East, South, and West. The Persians, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans. No discussion is needed of the atrocities thrown at the Hebrews by their subjugators - slavery, rape, attempted genocide, desecration of their holy temple (they sacrificed pigs in it, and the Greeks attempted to erect a statue of Zeus in it). At this point alone you, who call yourselves liberals should be ashamed at your constant demonizing of the Israeli people for their history of suffering alone (except for the last point - I know you guys don't care about the desecration of anything holy). The trend continues with the Crusades, the Inquisition, etc. Finally in 1948, after the nefarious Holocaust had cruelly killed over 6 million of them (in experiments by the Nazis, particularly the infamous Mendelay(sp?), pregant women had their legs taped shut at birth, dyes were injected into their eyes in an attempt to research how to snythetically produce Aryans, among a host of many other gruesome deaths and experiments), the United Nations graciously bestowed the Jewish people with the land that been their own anyway (remember, that claim has nothing to do with Abraham). And you neglect to mention when you bring up the 1967 Six-Day War, that it was Israel that had been attacked. They were not the aggressors. And attacked not by one nation, but by Egypt, Jordan, AND Syria. Now we see Israel being denounced by the once-noble UN for defending itself against terrorist attacks from the Palestines. (Notealestinean resentment is justified, Israel certainly doesn't have the only claim to the land. If it seems like I'm wholly on Israel's side, I'm not, I just felt I had to defend them since you attacked them.) Nothing could be done until Arafat passed away, and Abbas looks like a promising leader for reform in the region. But here's a little info for you jack! Does the Gaza-Strip pullout mean anything to you? Amidst death threats from many of his own countrymen, Sharon is willing to withdraw from territory he'd seized in the very defense of his nation. Don't you get it? He IS trying to cooperate and find a solution! And Abbas, while leaps-and-bounds more of a man than Arafat ever was, hasn't quite cracked down on militant-suicide groups like Hamas like he promised. You tell me who's extending the olive branch?
-And no, I'm not a Jew, not even remotely. I'll explain all later most-likely.
I'm a moderate Democrat, so for the most part I found your article to be on the level. But if there were one key reason that my politics over the last couple of years has shifted from liberal to centrist (I'm 19 yrs old btw), it's your, and your ilks take on the Israeli/Palestinean conflict. Let's start with the pre-modern history. I'm agnostic, and I'm betting you're atheist, or, at most, Quaker. *snicker* So we can put aside any notions of a Biblical claim to the Holy Land. Not necessarily label them as false, but . . .we don't know. What is known and irrefutable however, is that the Hebrew people were staked on the land of Palestine thousands of years ago, before any Arab set foot in the region. Through the history books, however, it becomes known that time and again, they were to be dislodged from their homeland by invading armies from North, East, South, and West. The Persians, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans. No discussion is needed of the atrocities thrown at the Hebrews by their subjugators - slavery, rape, attempted genocide, desecration of their holy temple (they sacrificed pigs in it, and the Greeks attempted to erect a statue of Zeus in it). At this point alone you, who call yourselves liberals should be ashamed at your constant demonizing of the Israeli people for their history of suffering alone (except for the last point - I know you guys don't care about the desecration of anything holy). The trend continues with the Crusades, the Inquisition, etc. Finally in 1948, after the nefarious Holocaust had cruelly killed over 6 million of them (in experiments by the Nazis, particularly the infamous Mendelay(sp?), pregant women had their legs taped shut at birth, dyes were injected into their eyes in an attempt to research how to snythetically produce Aryans, among a host of many other gruesome deaths and experiments), the United Nations graciously bestowed the Jewish people with the land that been their own anyway (remember, that claim has nothing to do with Abraham). And you neglect to mention when you bring up the 1967 Six-Day War, that it was Israel that had been attacked. They were not the aggressors. And attacked not by one nation, but by Egypt, Jordan, AND Syria. Now we see Israel being denounced by the once-noble UN for defending itself against terrorist attacks from the Palestines. (Notealestinean resentment is justified, Israel certainly doesn't have the only claim to the land. If it seems like I'm wholly on Israel's side, I'm not, I just felt I had to defend them since you attacked them.) Nothing could be done until Arafat passed away, and Abbas looks like a promising leader for reform in the region. But here's a little info for you jack! Does the Gaza-Strip pullout mean anything to you? Amidst death threats from many of his own countrymen, Sharon is willing to withdraw from territory he'd seized in the very defense of his nation. Don't you get it? He IS trying to cooperate and find a solution! And Abbas, while leaps-and-bounds more of a man than Arafat ever was, hasn't quite cracked down on militant-suicide groups like Hamas like he promised. You tell me who's extending the olive branch?
-And no, I'm not a Jew, not even remotely. I'll explain all later most-likely.