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Hopefully as with everyone else on here, there is absolutely no time limit on responding to my posts, I don't consider a lack of response to indicate anything. We are all on different time zones and different schedules and... I'm just saying that your apology is completely unecessary but I appreciate the thought behind it.
We may be on opposite "sides" whatever that means but we are perhaps only in opposite cities in the same country whereas I often feel like I am on a different planet with some people but I guess that's how it is.
Just one thing to add to what you said, London was carrying out covert talks with the IRA while the official Government line was "We don't talk to terrorists". At some stage a dialogue has to be opened up that includes the extremists, otherwise the extremists on both sides will win. It was de rigeur for the IRA to talk only in terms of outright surrender of the northern Counties to a united Ireland and look at where we are now. Considering the partition of Ireland occurred in the 1920s, it took the best part of 70 years for the real process to start and it hasn't ended yet. This could have been avoided if the British had not become drowned in the dogma of the extreme Protestants during the 1950s leading into the 1970s. The IRA was nothing but a Marxist talking shop before the British decided to deal violently with genuine civil rights concerns voiced by the "Catholic" population.
Do the parallels not jump out at you?
It is unfortunate that on here you have to be extremely bullish to counteract those that are in denial about what is happening. As on many others forums I have participated in, being moderate gets you nowehere fast in the face of a revisionist machine that is preprogrammed to deny, deny and then deny some more just to be sure. Speaking for myself, I am far more moderate on this issue than my posting might suggest but I think that demonstrates how destructive dogma is to any dialogue whether it is our self indulgent ramblings on an internet forum or serious international talks that effect millions of lives.
I am not optimistic. The human condition seems to be condemned to keep repeating the mistakes of history. I will be genuinely amazed if anything comes from the current talks but everything tells me that we will still be talking about this at the end of 2030 but we will probably be disussing what happens to the diplaced West Bank Palestinians. I say this because the West has procrastinated on this issue for so long that it has taken on a life of its own. This is no longer just about a just settlement for Palestinians and Israelis, it is a point of focus for EVERY faction in the Middle East theatre, the moderate and the extreme ones alike.
Your comments are self-explanatory. Just to respond to one specific point. I do concede that to get the IRA to the table secret dialogue had to take place first to get them ti disarm. That is only logical. when I say Hamas must come to the table disarmed I think it goes without saying to get to that point, there would need to be unofficial dialogue as there is now between Israel and Hamas through intermediaries and who knows actual direct contact.
None of us knows whether Israel has direct or indirect contact with Hamas. If they did obviously both sides would never disclose it.
As well the other issue you draw parallels to I would respectfully disagree with and say is not similiar.
I believe Israel has demonstrated good will by pulling out of Gaza and Lebanon only to be burned badly. I also believe Israel was openly mocked and made a fool of by Arafat when he indicated Oslo was just a joke and he never had any intentions of engaging in any peace. I believe people are selective with their memory on how many times Israel has reached out for peace only to get it slapped.
The same people who focus on alleged IDF incursions onto the West Bank or in Gaza against Palestinians do not in my opinion fairly acknowledge the failures of the Arab world to reach out in a cohesive way to Israel and show they are willing to condone terrorism.