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Israel Seized Palestinian Familys East Jerusalem Land, Gave It to NGO [W:43]

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Israel Seized Palestinian Family's East Jerusalem Land Behind Its Back, Gave It to Settler NGO

Israel expropriated land from an East Jerusalem Palestinian family without a tender and against the rules, then handed it over to Amana, an organization that works to establish settlements and outposts, Haaretz has learned.

Some months ago Amana began building a large office building on the land for its headquarters. Documents submitted for an administrative petition against the land transfer reveals that the state used strenuous bureaucratic acrobatics to deliver land that didn’t belong to it.

The plan was prepared and approved without the family knowing of the expropriation. The property map was redrawn to legitimize the expropriations, and related documents were hidden from the owners. The Jerusalem District Court rejected the Palestinian family’s petition, which is being appealed to the Supreme Court.

Amana, founded by the Gush Emunim religious settlement movement in 1979, is the most important private body for establishing and expanding West Bank settlements.

The company made headlines last month after two of its executives, secretary general Zeev Hever and treasurer Moshe Yogev, were investigated over alleged corruption. The company owns Al-Watan, which has been repeatedly involved in deals buying land from Palestinian owners that turned out to be forged.

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This is unjust pure and simple. There is so much work that goes into manipulating, fudging, and circumventing the law. This is easily done in the West Bank by the Israeli settler lobby, the West Bank where Palestinians are essentially unable to fine and property registrations post 1967. The legal machinery is being weaponized against the Palestinian population in the West Bank. Where it is not/cannot be weaponized as in this case the settler lobby tries every single trick in the book to essentially commit theft and anyone who wants to keep their land/property has to keep fighting for it for years and years.
 

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Re: Israel Seized Palestinian Familys East Jerusalem Land Behind Its Back, Gave It to

Israel Seized Palestinian Family's East Jerusalem Land Behind Its Back, Gave It to Settler NGO



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This is unjust pure and simple. There is so much work that goes into manipulating, fudging, and circumventing the law. This is easily done in the West Bank by the Israeli settler lobby, the West Bank where Palestinians are essentially unable to fine and property registrations post 1967. The legal machinery is being weaponized against the Palestinian population in the West Bank. Where it is not/cannot be weaponized as in this case the settler lobby tries every single trick in the book to essentially commit theft and anyone who wants to keep their land/property has to keep fighting for it for years and years.

This is standard for this conflict and why I say neither side is interested in an actual solution. There's nothing the US can do to solve this problem, so we're best served having nothing to do with it.
 

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Re: Israel Seized Palestinian Familys East Jerusalem Land Behind Its Back, Gave It to

Israel Seized Palestinian Family's East Jerusalem Land Behind Its Back, Gave It to Settler NGO



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This is unjust pure and simple. There is so much work that goes into manipulating, fudging, and circumventing the law. This is easily done in the West Bank by the Israeli settler lobby, the West Bank where Palestinians are essentially unable to fine and property registrations post 1967. The legal machinery is being weaponized against the Palestinian population in the West Bank. Where it is not/cannot be weaponized as in this case the settler lobby tries every single trick in the book to essentially commit theft and anyone who wants to keep their land/property has to keep fighting for it for years and years.

Do you realize Israel is a sovereign nation and therefore controls the land inside its borders?
 

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Re: Israel Seized Palestinian Familys East Jerusalem Land Behind Its Back, Gave It to

Do you realize Israel is a sovereign nation and therefore controls the land inside its borders?

Have you ever heard of property rights? Also their sovereignty over East Jerusalem is debatable.
 

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Re: Israel Seized Palestinian Familys East Jerusalem Land Behind Its Back, Gave It to

Have you ever heard of property rights? Also their sovereignty over East Jerusalem is debatable.

Hasn't Israel taken full dominion of J-town?

Do you realize Israel is a sovereign nation and therefore controls the land inside its borders?

Property rights....

This is standard for this conflict and why I say neither side is interested in an actual solution. There's nothing the US can do to solve this problem, so we're best served having nothing to do with it.

@bold: Much as I'd like to agree, that's not really an option.
 

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Re: Israel Seized Palestinian Familys East Jerusalem Land Behind Its Back, Gave It to

They can appeal to the Supreme court, as they've done, which will judge whether or not they are right.
East Jeursalem is Israeli and its residents (Israelis and permanent residents, Jews and Arabs) are under the rule of Israeli law and thus the law will be allowed to decide here.
 

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Hasn't Israel taken full dominion of J-town?

The PLO claims it as their capital, but so does Israel.
 

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The PLO claims it as their capital, but so does Israel.
Ah, yes, the "disputed" game of geopolitical limbo.

PLO can say whatever they want, they say a lot of things. Who rules J-town? If Israel is running everything and the law of the city is theirs, then..........
 

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Have you ever heard of property rights? Also their sovereignty over East Jerusalem is debatable.

I have. But was this Palestinian a citizen? And the debate is over, Israels military says it is not debatable. And that is how it should be.
 

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Ah, yes, the "disputed" game of geopolitical limbo.

PLO can say whatever they want, they say a lot of things. Who rules J-town? If Israel is running everything and the law of the city is theirs, then..........

That is kind of the thing, it kind of sorta controlled but kinda sorta not, some areas are under Palestinian law but others are not. It is a rather confusing much like the entire conflict. For example you also have certain settlements that even Israel does not control and they have their own laws that are very discriminatory to the Arabs just to add to the confusion of the occupied areas. But that all does not excuse the clear violation of Arab property rights.
 
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I have. But was this Palestinian a citizen? And the debate is over, Israels military says it is not debatable. And that is how it should be.

Presumably because if he lived in that area and Israel claims it, he should be an Israeli citizen or be afforded the property rights of one. How would you feel if the government came up to your door and said your house is now the property of someone else?
 

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That is kind of the thing, it kind of sorta controlled but kinda sorta not, some areas are under Palestinian law but others are not. It is a rather confusing much like the entire conflict. For example you also have certain settlements that even Israel does not control and they have their own laws that are very discriminatory to the Arabs. But that all doe snot excuse the clear violation of Arab property rights.

I see now, thanks for the information. Looks like I was wrong in my assumption about J-town.

@bold: No argument there.
 

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I see now, thanks for the information. Looks like I was wrong in my assumption about J-town.

@bold: No argument there.

It pretty much goes for almost any part of the West Bank it is a very complex web of jurisdiction.
 

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Do you realize Israel is a sovereign nation and therefore controls the land inside its borders?
Have you ever heard of property rights? Also their sovereignty over East Jerusalem is debatable.
Not to mention the whole way this was done, by not notifying the family and essentially going behind their backs and redrawing property lines to legitimize the the long standing illegitimate lines for expropriation, and also skirted the process to present a legitimate reason for the expropriation.
 

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Presumably because if he lived in that area and Israel claims it, he should be an Israeli citizen or be afforded the property rights of one. How would you feel if the government came up to your door and said your house is now the property of someone else?

Let me see, if I was connected to terrorists who have been called upon to stab the countrys' citizens I would understand. And being Palestinian is enough of a connection.
 

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Not to mention the whole way this was done, by not notifying the family and essentially going behind their backs and redrawing property lines to legitimize the the long standing illegitimate lines for expropriation, and also skirted the process to present a legitimate reason for the expropriation.


A little like the Obama administration operates, not a little, a lot.
 

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A little like the Obama administration operates, not a little, a lot.

Yup. Somehow Obama gets brought up in this. :roll: When you got nothing better to say or nothing substantive to respond with just pull out that Obama card.
 

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Yup. Somehow Obama gets brought up in this. :roll: When you got nothing better to say or nothing substantive to respond with just pull out that Obama card.

I already said what I had to say. You are the one who elaborated about the tactics used. Israel is ,and should be, in charge. Palestinians can live elsewhere, Jews are very limited.
 

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Can't say that I find anything really wrong with Israel doing this... the Palestinians need to reign in their terrorists for the betterment of their people.
 

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Let me see, if I was connected to terrorists who have been called upon to stab the countrys' citizens I would understand. And being Palestinian is enough of a connection.

If we are generalizing about entire groups of people why don't we just jail every black person and take away their rights because they are associated with criminals or all Germans because they were associated with some guy named Hitler.
 

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Can't say that I find anything really wrong with Israel doing this... the Palestinians need to reign in their terrorists for the betterment of their people.

Because stealing someone's property is going to help them do that? That is how you create terrorism not reduce it.
 

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Because stealing someone's property is going to help them do that? That is how you create terrorism not reduce it.

Terrorists were attacking Israel from its inception... the only ones creating more terrorists are the terrorists themselves...
 

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Let me see, if I was connected to terrorists who have been called upon to stab the countrys' citizens I would understand. And being Palestinian is enough of a connection.

Wow. "Being Palestinean is enough of a connection".

Do you say the same thing about the Germans and the Nazis?

Or the Russians and the Soviets?

Or southerners and the KKK?
 

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Wow. "Being Palestinean is enough of a connection".

Do you say the same thing about the Germans and the Nazis?

Or the Russians and the Soviets?



Or southerners and the KKK?

Are any of those groups stabbing random citizens?
 

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Terrorists were attacking Israel from its inception... the only ones creating more terrorists are the terrorists themselves...

Oh, I think when an IDF drone fires a couple rockets into a slum in search of Hamas fighters who've already bugged out and take out somebody's family in the process they do a pretty good job of creating a terrorist.
 
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