Israel doubts on settlements legality (1 Viewer)

[jujuman13]

Israel steals land to build settlements, wow what a surprise.
Telling us that these Israeli Jews are a bunch of theives.
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BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Israel doubts on settlements legality

I dare say that face of jacob and that other Israeli ta*t will disagree.

 

[The face of Jacob]

The guy in the article claims that his land that was of his family for hundreds of years was stolen. It's not true. He has got no land. The truth is that he is an Arab who invaded to this land from Arabia and in the future he and all his family will have to leave this Jewish land to return to the place that came from and this is Arabia. "Peace now" movement are couple of self hatred Jews who tell lies and I wonder what will they say when the Palestinian missiles will start to fall on their heads.

And what about this article?

Jewish-owned land, homes lefts outside Jerusalem fence

About 5,000 dunam (1,250 acres) of private land owned by Jews were left outside the separation barrier in the Jerusalem area. The route of the barrier was completed earlier this week. In the Atarot-Neveh Ya'akov area, some of this land is already being used by Palestinians. In other areas, such as Har Gilo and Anatot, the land is currently not being used. Full article inside

 

[jujuman13]

Perhaps you would be kind enough to let me know the year this man settled this land, at the same time please do let me know what year Israel settled the land you claim is theirs.
Also do the parties who lay claim to these lands have documents to prove their ownership?

 

[Makhno]

The guy in the article claims that his land that was of his family for hundreds of years was stolen. It's not true. He has got no land. The truth is that he is an Arab who invaded to this land from Arabia and in the future he and all his family will have to leave this Jewish land to return to the place that came from and this is Arabia.

Yeah, like my country was stolen by the English 1000 years ago, so what?

Peace now" movement are couple of self hatred Jews who tell lies and I wonder what will they say when the Palestinian missiles will start to fall on their heads.

"Self hatred"? I suppose "war now" would be more reasonable to you then?

Anyhow, do Israel really need to build settlements? I mean they can only serve as barriers to peace . . . esp when the settlers are armed right-wing fundamentalists, that block the peace process.

 

[The face of Jacob]

Makhno and jujuman13, I'm not gonna recycle my hundreds posts again and again. Just look at the first two links in my sig, they are saying it all.

 

[Red_Dave]

The guy in the article claims that his land that was of his family for hundreds of years was stolen. It's not true. He has got no land. The truth is that he is an Arab who invaded to this land from Arabia and in the future he and all his family will have to leave this Jewish land to return to the place that came from and this is Arabia. "Peace now" movement are couple of self hatred Jews who tell lies and I wonder what will they say when the Palestinian missiles will start to fall on their heads.

And what about this article?

But do you think the "we where here first argument" is really that practical? Should white people leave america because the indians where here first? Should those in the UK with Nordic ancestry leave because the Celts where there first? Indeed according to your logic the Canaanite people could hypothetically tell your people they have no rights because they where there first:roll:

 

[The face of Jacob]

There's a very important point that hasn't been mentioned before and came to my mind in the recent time and it's about buying lands from the Arabs. There is an organization in the name of KKL, acronym of Kern Kayemet Lyisrael which means a valid fund for Israel. That organization was established more than 100 years ago and it's aim was to buy lands from the Arabs and to pay them good money for it. So, claims of Arabs that the Jews came and stole their "Palestine land" aren't justified.

You can read more about it here:
Jewish National Fund - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[The face of Jacob]

But do you think the "we where here first argument" is really that practical?

3 things:

1. We were here before the Arabs.
2. God is saying that this land is a Jewish land. If you don't believe in God then I won't force you to believe in him but me and my friends are believing in him and this is the reason why we do the good things that he commanded us and living in our home that he said it's ours.
3. I didn't see you calling for an establishment of a Jewish state in the 20 Arab/Muslim countries for the Jewish population there. This is because you are speaking out of hypocricy point of view.

Should white people leave america because the indians where here first?

America wasn't belong to the Indians cause they didn't establish there a state in the name of 'India' in the opposite to the children of Israel who had the Israeli kingdom in Israel. The Indians didn't settle in all America, they were natives who were living there. I'm not saying that to slaughter many Indians is a good thing but the comparison is not logic at all.

Should those in the UK with Nordic ancestry leave because the Celts where there first?

95% of the British people are British. When your country will have 20% Arabs/Muslims in it who will scream for an establishment of an Islamic state in UK then we will see what you will say... Arabs/Muslims are the enemies of the Jews, Arabs/Muslims aren't Protestants, you can't compare them.

Indeed according to your logic the Canaanite people could hypothetically tell your people they have no rights because they where there first:roll:

The Canaanites aren't existed nowadays and there is no group that define herself as Canaanite. The people of Canaan were from many small nations, each city in ancient Canaan was a different ethnic group. One of them was the Canaan group. It doesn't matter what the Canaanites have said because it's important what God have said. The Canaanites were idolaters who used to sacrifice their children to their invented idols and used to do sex with animals, would you listen to these kind of people? :roll:

And anyway, God commanded us to eliminate the Canaanites.

And another thing, the children of Israel were also living in Canaan before they went to Egypt because there was a starvation in Canaan.

The non Jews who live in the state of Israel nowadays have also rights but they aren't the owners of the land. Today, Israel isn't a Jewish kingdom. In the future, when Israel will be a Jewish kingdom and when the temple will be built again as God says in the Tanach, then those non Jews residents of Israel will also have rights but they will have to follow the 7 laws of Noach and they will be consider as Ger Toshav - residents of Israel who aren't Jews but follow the 7 laws of Noach. God says in the Tanach that in the future, all the Gentiles will abandon their religions and will come back to follow the 7 laws. Islam is heresy and the land of Israel is a holy land. In the futute there won't be Muslims in the land of Israel, they will come back to follow the 7 laws and the disgrace in the name of the doom of the rock (which was built in a Jewish place!!) will be removed and the Jewish temple will come back to it's original place instead.

 

[jujuman13]

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(Arabs/Muslims are the enemies of the Jews,)

This may well be so, at least in your eyes.
Currently living in Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Morroco, Tunisia and other Muslim dominant countries are many Jewish people.
Iran actually has a Jewish Member of the Iranian Parliament.
Are you suggesting that these people are not true Jews?
Certainly they would claim to be true as they religiously follow Jewish law as well as their Holy Books.
They do however not lay claim to be Zionists.
Curiously to myself being a goy, these folk are permitted to live their lives as Jews, they are integrated into the society they live in.
I suppose you would classify them as either non Jews or as being hostage for whatever reason.
Personally I hope that the Dome of the Rock remains as it is, it is undoubtedly one of the most dignified and beautifully designed buildings within Israel.

 

[The face of Jacob]

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(Arabs/Muslims are the enemies of the Jews,)

This may well be so, at least in your eyes.
Currently living in Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Morroco, Tunisia and other Muslim dominant countries are many Jewish people.
Iran actually has a Jewish Member of the Iranian Parliament.
Are you suggesting that these people are not true Jews?

Where did I say that they aren't Jews?????

There are no Jews who are living in Egypt.
There are no Jews who are living in Jordan, a Jew in Jordan isn't allowed to have a property.
The Jews who are living in Morroco, Tunisia are less than 6000.
There are 25,000 Jews who are living in Iran and the only reason why they are living there is because the Iranian regime isn't allowing them to move to Israel and they suffered from torture there:

Iranian Jews sue ex-president Khatami

Seven families residing in Los Angeles and Israel, who say their missing relatives were kidnapped and tortured by Iranian government, sue country's former president, delivering summons to him directly during his US visit Full article inside

Certainly they would claim to be true as they religiously follow Jewish law as well as their Holy Books.
They do however not lay claim to be Zionists.

They are more Zionists than other Jews in Israel that I know.

Curiously to myself being a goy, these folk are permitted to live their lives as Jews, they are integrated into the society they live in.

Yeah, and they suffer for pogroms because of their Jewish identity.

I suppose you would classify them as either non Jews or as being hostage for whatever reason.

What on earth cause you to think those twisted thoughts?

Personally I hope that the Dome of the Rock remains as it is, it is undoubtedly one of the most dignified and beautifully designed buildings within Israel.

Yeah, beauty...also the temples of the idolaters Inkas who used to sacrifice their children to their invented idols were beautiful and also the ceremonies of the Nazis were amazing and beautiful. But the thing you forgot to mention is that in this Doom of the rock they are preaching to murder the ones who don't agree to believe in their dreams and another thing you forgot to mention is that they built their disgrace in the most holiest place for the Jews. It's like a criminal will steal your property and then will built "a beautiful palace instead of it", we will see what you will say then. Someone dream that he is flying to this place on a magic horse from Mecca and his followers built a disgrace on a Jewish property. It's not beautiful at all. It's a disgrace but it won't be removed now cause not all the Jews are ready for this step. It will be removed in the future cause it's not the temple of God. It's just another Muslim fake.

You know what? Let's see what you will say when they will start to built these kind of buildings in your country and will preach there to kill people. They are doing it now. I hope you wake up before it will be too late.