Israel authorizes 'severe' response to abductions [title changed] (1 Viewer)

[BudLizard101]

Re: IDF pushes into Lebanon

"And really now,Has'nt Israel spent a hundred times more than the Palestinians on rockets?" -- yeah, b/c it's Israel's money. while the palestinians money is donated from the world, and omg, including the 'evil Israeli terrosit state' :rofl

"You have several "targeted assainations" a week on the democratically elected government of the Concentration Camps you hillariously claim is a free country." -- what's so wrong with targeted assassinations of people that have civilian blood on their hands and vow to do more killings of civilians? Perhaps we should ask them to sit down for tea and biscuts and talk out the problems?

"And you have little concern for how many civilians are killed when the missiles miss thier mark." -- Really? B/c i'm pretty sure the IDF appologizes for loss of UNINTENTIONAL civilian life. Has Hamas ever done the same thing?

"When the Nazis rounded up whole Jewish towns and Villages and forced them into "Ghettos",some Jews decided to resist, and fight the Nazis in an insurgency" -- Okay, the "Palestinians" could have lived IN Israel, been Israeli citizens, had health care, a normal job, etc, etc. But what did they do? They tried to DESTROY Israel. When they wanted to go back into Israel, they obviously couldn't and NO ONE else(not even their 'brother's') wanted them. I wonder why? Maybe b/c they are a bunch of criminals? Your arguement doesn't hold b/c the Jews did not try to destroy the coutnry they lived in, your palestinian buddies did. kind of a big difference, no?

 

[MSgt]

There is absolutely no twist of history, no cowardly declarations to make Israel the same as Hezbollah, or no apologies to be offerred to our enemies.

Israel uses precision bombings and seeks to lessen civilian casualties. Hezbollah (like all the others) seek out civilian targets. Israeli tyroops are staged at the border - why hasn't Hezbollah began targetting this military instead of seeking to murder civilians in cities? (There is no reasoning, but watch what morons will do to try to explain this away in defense of their terrorists).


Until Hezbollah, their financial backers, and their legion of Islamic cheerleaders are destroyed or re-define their cultural definitions, this war will remain with the breaks for false peace between conflicts.

 

[Kandahar]

OK, you people who are bitching about Israel's "collective punishment" of Lebanon have no right to ALSO bitch about Israel's targeted assassinations. Israel just can't win with you people, no matter what it does. How exactly should it be defending itself?

 

[DeeJayH]

Re: IDF pushes into Lebanon

yOU CANNOT GET BEYOND THIS "INSIGNIA" ISSUE.The fact is that the Palestinians are fighting an assymetrical war against a much stronger power.The British complained about the same thing during our own revolutionary war;The "savage" Americans fought from cover,were not above using snipers and sabotage, and could not afford regular uniforms.
But in the red white and blue world,our founding fathers are not called "terrorists" are they?

maybe thats because we only fought the assymetrical war against a much stronger power without targeting civilians
however, wars back than were fought much differently than
we could not do 3/4 of the things that were acceptable than
times change........unless you live in the middle east

 

[RightinNYC]

I just think it comes down to this:

If Lebanon as a nation is not strong enough to keep a massive terrorist organization from operating with impunity within its borders, then the Lebanese government has the responsibility to either

a) Do whatever it has to do internally to get that organization under control
b) Solicit outside help in ridding itself of the terrorists, or
c) Accept responsibility for the actions of the terrorist group

In this case, they chose not to do A or B, thus accepting C. Their liability for this is incredibly clear, if it was argued in a court of law as a matter of responsibility, they would be found guilty 10 times out of 10.

As a result of Hezbollah's actions, Lebanon was responsible for an attack on Israel, a move that would have justified a full out war.

Even more mind-boggling to me was the Lebanese government's lethargic response to all this, and their current antagonistic stance.

If immediately after they became aware of the kidnapping, the Lebanese govt had condemned the actions, promised retribution, and forcefully retaliated against Hezbollah in an effort to secure the soldiers and disarm the terrorists, I can guarantee you that Israel would not be in Lebanon now.

Instead, the govt chose to remain silent, wait until Israel attacked, and now play the role of the martyr. They're even threatening to send their soldiers to "fight alongside Hezbollah."

This was a complete abdication of governmental responsibility on the part of the Lebanese govt.

 

[oldreliable67]

Most of the threads about the current conflict have justifiably focused on the impact in Lebanon and Gaza. But lets not forget the kind of organization that the Israeli's are dealing with here. Hezbollah was responsible for two bombings of Jewish centers in far-from-Israel Argentina - thats how far their efforts to kill Jews have taken them in the past. Note the Iranian connection...

Last Tuesday morning, a siren sounded in Buenos Aires to mark the 12th anniversary of the bombing of the AMIA building, the chief offices of Argentina’s Jewish community. The bombing killed 85 people and injured over 250. It was the largest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. It was the work of Hezbollah, working closely under Iranian sponsorship, and it perfectly illustrates Hezbollah’s intentions, capabilities, and modus operandi. As the West hurtles into a confrontation with Iran, sparked by the current Israeli-Hezbollah conflagration, it is worth examining this deadly effective attack in Argentina over a decade ago.

The AMIA bombing was not Hezbollah’s first strike in Argentina. Two years earlier, a Hezbollah suicide bomber hit the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, killing 29 and wounding over 200. This attack was in retaliation for Israel’s assassination of Hezbollah’s Secretary-General Abbas Musawi. His replacement was Hezbollah’s current leader Hassan Nasrallah.

Two years later, Hezbollah, under orders from the Iranian leadership, struck again in Buenos Aires. Israel had just captured a senior Hezbollah leader, Mustafa Dirani, who had helped capture Israeli airman Ron Arad. At the same time, Israel had recently bombed a Hezbollah training base, killing over 20 Hezbollah fighters. Finally, Argentina’s President Carlos Menem, had, under U.S. pressure, reneged on deals to provide ballistic-missile and nuclear technology to Syria and Iran. Argentine intelligence believes that the orders for these attacks came from the very top of the Iranian regime. Both of the Buenos Aires terror attacks illustrate how Iran and Hezbollah play hardball with their opponents.

Terrorism requires organization and logistics. Hezbollah’s ability to carry out an attack in Buenos Aires, halfway across the world from their primary base in Lebanon, is impressive. One factor in the AMIA bombing’s success was, according to Argentine intelligence, the support from the Iranian embassy. Mohsen Rabbani, the “cultural attaché,” coordinated the operation. Reportedly he purchased the Renault van used in the bombing. This pattern of Iranian-Hezbollah cooperation is not unique to the Buenos Aires operations. Hezbollah carried out a series of bombings in Paris from December 1985 to September 1986. These bombings were linked to a translator at Iran’s embassy in Paris and led to a diplomatic standoff between France and Iran.

Source.http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OWJmNDJiODlkMmI5MjkzNmJiZDJhZGI0MDA4YmNkNTE=

Many posters on the currrent conflict refer to things like the current conditions in Gaza, point out the historical context of the Jews/Israel vs Arabs/Palestinians, et al. Basically, right here and right now, none of that matters. It is all completely irrelevant in the current context. What matters, right here and right now, is that Hezbollah (and Hamas) are sworn to eliminate Israel and Jews and do the bidding of their state sponsor, Iran.

Terrorism targetting Israel will end only when Iran is convinced that terrorism is of no further value to Iran's aims in the region. What will it take to convince Iran of that?