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Islamic Honour Killing: Muslim woman forced to drink poison for seeing Christian Man

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Muslims ransack Christian village
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH
TAIBA


Efforts were under way on Sunday to calm the situation in this Christian village east of Ramallah after an attack by hundreds of Muslim men from nearby villages left many houses and vehicles torched.

The incident began on Saturday night and lasted until early Sunday, when Palestinian Authority security forces interfered to disperse the attackers. Residents said several houses were looted and many families were forced to flee to Ramallah and other Christian villages, although no one was injured.

The attack on the village of 1,500 was triggered by the murder of a Muslim woman from the nearby village of Deir Jarir earlier this week. The 30-year-old woman, according to PA security sources, was apparently murdered by members of her family for having had a romance with a Christian man from Taiba.

"When her family discovered that she had been involved in a forbidden relationship with a Christian, they apparently forced her to drink poison," said one source. "Then they buried her without reporting her death to the relevant authorities."

When the PA security forces decided to launch an investigation into the woman's death, her family protested for fear that the relationship would be exposed. The family was further infuriated by the decision to exhume the body for autopsy.

"More than 500 Muslim men, chanting Allahu akbar [God is great], attacked us at night," said a Taiba resident. "They poured kerosene on many buildings and set them on fire. Many of the attackers broke into houses and stole furniture, jewelry and electrical appliances."

With the exception of large numbers of PA policemen, the streets of Taiba were completely deserted on Sunday as the residents remained indoors. Many torched cars littered the streets. At least 16 houses had been gutted by fire and the assailants also destroyed a statue of the Virgin Mary.

"It was like a war, they arrived in groups, and many of them were holding clubs," said another resident.

"Some people saw them carrying weapons. They first attacked houses belonging to the Khoury family [looking for the man who had the affair with the women, not realizing he had already fled the village.] Then they went to their relatives. They entered the houses and destroyed everything there. Then they tried to enter the local beer factory, but were repelled by PA security agents.

The fire engine arrived five hours later."
Col. Tayseer Mansour, commander of the PA police in the Ramallah area, said his men arrived late because of the need to coordinate their movements with the IDF. "The delay resulted in the torching of a number of houses and cars in the village," he said.

Taiba, the only West Bank village that is completely inhabited by Christians, is famous for its Taiba Beer factory, which was established by the Khoury family in 1994.

The residents are Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox or Greek Catholic. The village was originally called Ephraim, and is thought to be the city to which Jesus came with his disciples before his crucifixion: "Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews; but went thence unto a country near the wilderness, into a city called Ephraim" (John 11:54).

According to some accounts, Salah a-Din, who led the war against the Crusaders, was responsible for the name change. He is said to have found the villagers there to be nice and kind – in Arabic, taybeen – and the name stuck, to become Taiba.



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Boo hoo. So-called "Christians" killed my ancestors. You don't see me using that an excuse to be a whingey schmuck.
 

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vergiss said:
Boo hoo. So-called "Christians" killed my ancestors. You don't see me using that an excuse to be a whingey schmuck.
1. I am not really sure what your motives are for being a whingey schmuck. Then again, I didn't ask. If you choose to be a schmuck, that is a lifestyle decision that you have made on your own. No excuse is needed.

2. That you are suffering from sort of intergenerational post-traumatic stress disorder has no bearing on todays news. I choose to live in the here and now and address the problems of today.

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The here and now, eh? The sort of here and now that's had people spit at me for wearing a Star of David pendant?
 

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Re: Islamic Honour Killing: Muslim woman forced to drink poison for seeing Christian

Islamic Honour Killing: Muslim woman forced to drink poison for seeing Christian Man

There is really no supprise about what the arabs do in that part of the world.

The way I look at it this woman knew the consiquences of her actions,in other words this is not some new policy that was enacted yesterday.
 

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Re: Islamic Honour Killing: Muslim woman forced to drink poison for seeing Christian

jamesrage said:
There is really no supprise about what the arabs do in that part of the world.

The way I look at it this woman knew the consiquences of her actions,in other words this is not some new policy that was enacted yesterday.
So it is perfectly acceptable for a Muslim woman dating a non-Muslim to be murdered and the local Muslim population to riot? Because that is the way it has always been done? How can any society break the yoke of oppression if its intolerance is tolerated?


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Re: Islamic Honour Killing: Muslim woman forced to drink poison for seeing Christian

So it is perfectly acceptable for a Muslim woman dating a non-Muslim to be murdered and the local Muslim population to riot? Because that is the way it has always been done? How can any society break the yoke of oppression if its intolerance is tolerated?
Since when did liberal give two shits about what happens in that part of the world?Apparently you all think Sadam in power is a great thing ny the way you all speak about how that war is illegal.

Not all societies are equal and not all cultures are equal.Unfortunatly most middle eastern cultures and societies are on the bottom of the barrel.I think we should not act supprised when something like this happens in their socieity.If you want to change things over there then bomb the living hell out of them and stick people in power that will make things better.
 

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*sits down with a bag of popcorn*

This is hilarious. Please continue.
 

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Re: Islamic Honour Killing: Muslim woman forced to drink poison for seeing Christian

*sits down with a bag of popcorn*

This is hilarious. Please continue.
Do you have a better idea how to change things down there?Please don't tell me that you are shocked every time someone gets killed in those countries for what would be considered a light offense in most countries.
 

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This kind of thing still surprises some of you guys?

I'm with Howard Stern on the Iraq thing. We should send 50 cent over there and let him run it for a while. I'm pretty sure we'd have our boys out of there in a matter of weeks. LOL
 

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Re: Islamic Honour Killing: Muslim woman forced to drink poison for seeing Christian

This kind of thing still surprises some of you guys?

I'm with Howard Stern on the Iraq thing. We should send 50 cent over there and let him run it for a while. I'm pretty sure we'd have our boys out of there in a matter of weeks. LOL
Michael Savage says the samething.Although not with 50 cent running things.
 

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Re: Islamic Honour Killing: Muslim woman forced to drink poison for seeing Christian

jamesrage said:
Michael Savage says the samething.Although not with 50 cent running things.
To be honest with you, I would love it if Savage were running things in Iraq, or even over here. I think he may enter politics eventually, even though he vows not to. He knows he is one of the only people with the sense and charisma to change the direction our country is heading.
 
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