Islam, the violent religion. (1 Viewer)

[nes]

I don't understand why someone would believe in such a false and made-up religion.

Nothing is wrong with Muslims burning U.S. & Israeli flags, raping woman, and screaming "allah ackbar"?

Muslims killing other people because they believe some make believe "allah" and someone that was able to fool Muslims, named "Mohamad" - YouTube - Islam - Spread By The Sword (exspansion of islam) part 3

I think that Islam was spread by wars and violence. I consider the Islam religion to be a joke just like Greek mythology.

Modern day equivalent of Mohamad - http://funnypics.free.fr/explorer/public/img/r/retarded.jpg

picture of alah - http://www.monteverdeinfo.com/images/white-face-monkey-1.jpeg
:rofl

The point of this post actually being that I think that some Muslims can't control their temper tantrums to some cartoons that offend Muslims shows their irrational thinking and behavior.

FYI- I believe that there are no Muslims in heaven.

 

[Makhno]

I don't understand why someone would believe in such a false and made-up religion.

Ya, I mean stories of virgin births, and the son of god coming back to life after being nailed to a stick are just sooo much more believable.

Let me say this, all religions are inherently sexist, all religions are inherently violent, all religions are inherently full of bull crud. So true Christians and Jews (fundamentalists) are in no position to take up the moral high ground on this . . . esp when you consider the ammount of Christians who are trying to bring about armageddon.

I think that some Muslims can't control their temper tantrums to .

They're the only ones eh?:rofl

 

[nes]

Ya, I mean stories of virgin births, and the son of god coming back to life after being nailed to a stick are just sooo much more believable.

Let me say this, all religions are inherently sexist, all religions are inherently violent, all religions are inherently full of bull crud. So true Christians and Jews (fundamentalists) are in no position to take up the moral high ground on this . . . esp when you consider the ammount of Christians who are trying to bring about armageddon.

They're the only ones eh?:rofl

Did not I hear someone say that all religions are peaceful? Some religions don't even involve gender and some religions are based off of pacifism. So I don't believe that classifying all religions doesn't hold. I believe that most Christians don't try to bring about armageddon. The average Christian probably won't be able to recite 5 out of the 10 commandments.

 

[Makhno]

Did not I hear someone say that all religions are peaceful? Some religions don't even involve gender and some religions are based off of pacifism. So I don't believe that classifying all religions doesn't hold. I believe that most Christians don't try to bring about armageddon. The average Christian probably won't be able to recite 5 out of the 10 commandments.

Some religions? Yes, Buddhism, Taoism, maybe . . . but as far as theist religion goes . . .

PS: I believe the average Muslim didn't go nutts over the cartoon.

 

[cherokee]

. . .

PS: I believe the average Muslim didn't go nutts over the cartoon.

And none said jackchit anything about the ones who did go nuts.
So how many people died over a frigging cartoon?

 

[bub]

If you had oppened the Bible once in your life, you'd have seen that it's not more pacifist than the Kuran.


Some extracts of our pacifist bible:


Ezekiel 25:17 "And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them."


“And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground.” (Jeremiah 25:33)

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.


2 Chronicles 15:13
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

I have pursued mine enemies, and destroyed them; and turned not again until I had consumed them.
And I have consumed them, and wounded them, that they could not arise:
Yea, they are fallen under my feet.
2 Samuel 22:38-39


I also met a guy who proved that according to the Bible, women and black people are inferior. If you want to contact him, send me a MP


The difference between "violent" or "not violent" is when you interpret the Bible/Kuran literally or not. Most of us don't, accept those who don't agree, the foreigners and the gays.

But some morons (fundamentalists) islamists or baptists interpret it literally and can be very violent.

Now, the difference between islamists and other fundamentalists is that the islamists want to re-conquer the territories they think they have lost (Palestine = Israel colonies, Iraq = US occupation, Afghanistan = NATO occupation, Chechnya = Russian occupation...) while the baptists, for example, have their own territory, and thus don't need to fight.

Inquisition: Period in the late Middle-Age where the Catholic church showed its tolerance, misericorde and kindness.

 

[bub]

I consider the Islam religion to be a joke just like Greek mythology.

Could you explain me what makes Christianism different from Islam and Greek Mythology?

And you are not very credible when trying to prove that muslims are backwarded, since your sources are just "youtube" and "funnypics.free.fr"

 

[Wyrmdog]

NES, are you looking for discourse or did you come here just to make a pronouncement and denigrate a religion that isn't your own?

BTW, I refuse to take your poll.

 

[bub]

LiveLeak.com - Good, wholesome, christian fun!

 

[Gunface]

I don't understand why someone would believe in such a false and made-up religion.

Nothing is wrong with Muslims burning U.S. & Israeli flags, raping woman, and screaming "allah ackbar"?

Muslims killing other people because they believe some make believe "allah" and someone that was able to fool Muslims, named "Mohamad" - YouTube - Islam - Spread By The Sword (exspansion of islam) part 3

I think that Islam was spread by wars and violence. I consider the Islam religion to be a joke just like Greek mythology.

Modern day equivalent of Mohamad - http://funnypics.free.fr/explorer/public/img/r/retarded.jpg

picture of alah - http://www.monteverdeinfo.com/images/white-face-monkey-1.jpeg
:rofl

The point of this post actually being that I think that some Muslims can't control their temper tantrums to some cartoons that offend Muslims shows their irrational thinking and behavior.

FYI- I believe that there are no Muslims in heaven.

Typical.

And of course there's nothing wrong with screaming "Allah Ackbar". It means "God is great", moron.

 

[Thelost1]

y'know, Christianity spread by the sword too. Without the Roman empire covering europe it wouldn't have got far. And the Romans didn't just ask nicely for that land.

 

[Intransigent Atheist]

A fake religion? Not any more than Christianity, Wicca, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, or any of the other multitude of religions we have on this planet.

 

[Navy Seal Patriot]

My dad is stronger and more violent than your dad. haha

Maybe DP should have a debate on threads like this titled: kid debates section

 

[WI Crippler]

Islam is not a fake religion. It is very real. Just ask the millions of people who follow it.

Maybe you question should be rephrased if you are looking for something else here.

 

[nes]

Islam is not a fake religion. It is very real. Just ask the millions of people who follow it.

Maybe you question should be rephrased if you are looking for something else here.

admit to me that monkey allah you believe in is fake. Do you really believe some homeless man that brutally tortured people can predict the future? :rofl

Most Muslims are brainwashed and don't have enough logic to not believe in some mythological book called the koran. The devil must be enjoying the amount of Muslims stupid enough to get tricked.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Moderator's Warning:

Enough of the name-calling and religious bigotry. Remember the part about civility being a must.

 

[MSgt]

There is nothing fake about Islam. A religion exists and a god is worshipped. However, violence is a fundamental root of Islam, which does in fact isolate it from the other major religions in history.

Could you explain me what makes Christianism different from Islam

If you had oppened the Bible once in your life, you'd have seen that it's not more pacifist than the Kuran.

Some extracts of our pacifist bible:

Well, I'll just dismiss the rest, because it has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

It's not about the obtuse sentiment of bashing religion and defending religious books. Why is it that when an observation is made about one thing, the bashers come out to bash unrelated things? Why is it that when Islam's behavior is discussed, people who feel they need to attack Christianity come out to play? Are people aware that Christianity is a New Testament creation and not an Old Testament? Are people so determined to fool themselves into thinking that Islam and Christianity both reflect the same thinkg that they are willing to dismiss wisdom? During the 90's the intelligencia wasn't allowed to discuss such un PC matters as "Islamic Radicalism" or "religious fundamentalism" and certainlly no such documents were permitted to reach the White House.

People are not accounting for human nature and they are too quick to dismiss religion itself as a factor for today's issues. Instead they rely on that good old comfy emotion of "political correctness" as they refuse to believe that anything less than that is truth. Is the rarely seen Christian terrorist in today's society not a problem when he becomes determined to kill and destroy in the name of "God?" Of course he is. Certainly we can come to terms with this and identify the far lessened degree, but is he not practicing "religious fundamentalism" within a society that denies him his respected place? Of course. And why does our civilization refuse an acceptance of Christian fundamentalism when the Islamic world does not refuse the stature of their zealots? Is the difference the religion? Is it possible to look at history and the world today and reflect on the religions as shaping factors of society?

* Despite their similar appetites for horror in later centuries, Christianity did begin as a pacifist movement while Islam was wrought in war. Is it too difficult for us to look at the world and conclude that a religion's origin can shape its psychology two thousand years later or 14 centuries later? Jesus Christ responded to violence with a rejection of violence and to the suffering with a readiness to suffer. He befriended the poor and the weak as lovingly as he did the priviledged and the strong. The "sinner" was still respected as a child of "God." And given that his followers went mildly on to surrender their lives to annoyed governments just to accept such teachings, it's amazing Christianity survived. Eventually, these inspirations endured and devoured the greatest empire the world had seen. Christianity survived and conquered with it's message, not with sword (Such periods in history were to come much later). Islam has a complete opposite origin. It reflects a situation as if Christianity was born from Genesis instead of Matthew (Christs appearance). Islam, in the beginning, was exclusive to Arabs only and was wary of outside influences (something seen today). But Muhammed survived by making war on pagan Arabs, who once became subjugated, swelled the tribal armies of Islam. The force of "with us or against us"-a tool used by Jews and Christians in points in history-arroused latent energies. Islam exploded out of the Arabian peninsula with a fury that toppled empires, always through warfare. And after Muhammed died, the Shia succession became an inspried movement as Islam became the ultimate form of control and governance. The lands were conquered for Islam by the sword, but the populations were conquered by self interest.

* And what about the women? Christianity is rich with female heroism and the virtues of Christ's teachings are captured in icons like Ruth, Judith, and both Mary's. Even as Christ willingly died for the sins of other men, it was the women that stayed at the foot of the cross as the male disciples ran and hid. If we look in the Qu'ran, when women are mentioned at all they are used as a source of corruption-bent on cutting off more than Samson's hair. Women are used as proof that the old Mullah is always right and just.


Now look at our civilizations today? One civilization embraces education, creativity, toleration, human rights, equality between races and genders, and a more passive role in the world. The other oppresses and subjugates their women, stifles creatism and does not tolerate that which is against "God" to the degree that the "martyr" is justified. The existence of indoctrinated and celebrated hate fuels centuries of rage against Jews. Does the west prosper, because it has gone through the pain of reshaping Christianity for centuries and included the influence of other religions along the way? If this is true, can it also be true that the Islamic world suffers because of it's refusals? Is the Middle East a wrecked society because of their stagnations or the religon that encourages those stagnations?

We cannot allow oursleves this notion that we can dismiss the religions from this world as a shaping factor. In the Middle East, we see a monoply on religion. Well, if absolute power corrupts absolutely than absolute religious power corrupts religion absolutely.

What is the true purpose of people's needs to dismiss the world events of the day, by parading around the Bible's Old Testament? "9/11?.....Islamic Religious terrorists?......Never mind those...the Old Testament was bad too." The truth is that religion bashers haven't a clue about the religions they are bashing.

 

[WI Crippler]

admit to me that monkey allah you believe in is fake. Do you really believe some homeless man that brutally tortured people can predict the future? :rofl

Most Muslims are brainwashed and don't have enough logic to not believe in some mythological book called the koran. The devil must be enjoying the amount of Muslims stupid enough to get tricked.

I don't believe in Allah.

But millions of people do. That makes it real.

 

[Edify_Always_In_All_Ways]

There is nothing fake about Islam. A religion exists and a god is worshipped. However, violence is a fundamental root of Islam, which does in fact isolate it from the other major religions in history.










Well, I'll just dismiss the rest, because it has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

It's not about the obtuse sentiment of bashing religion and defending religious books. Why is it that when an observation is made about one thing, the bashers come out to bash unrelated things? Why is it that when Islam's behavior is discussed, people who feel they need to attack Christianity come out to play? Are people aware that Christianity is a New Testament creation and not an Old Testament? Are people so determined to fool themselves into thinking that Islam and Christianity both reflect the same thinkg that they are willing to dismiss wisdom? During the 90's the intelligencia wasn't allowed to discuss such un PC matters as "Islamic Radicalism" or "religious fundamentalism" and certainlly no such documents were permitted to reach the White House.

People are not accounting for human nature and they are too quick to dismiss religion itself as a factor for today's issues. Instead they rely on that good old comfy emotion of "political correctness" as they refuse to believe that anything less than that is truth. Is the rarely seen Christian terrorist in today's society not a problem when he becomes determined to kill and destroy in the name of "God?" Of course he is. Certainly we can come to terms with this and identify the far lessened degree, but is he not practicing "religious fundamentalism" within a society that denies him his respected place? Of course. And why does our civilization refuse an acceptance of Christian fundamentalism when the Islamic world does not refuse the stature of their zealots? Is the difference the religion? Is it possible to look at history and the world today and reflect on the religions as shaping factors of society?

* Despite their similar appetites for horror in later centuries, Christianity did begin as a pacifist movement while Islam was wrought in war. Is it too difficult for us to look at the world and conclude that a religion's origin can shape its psychology two thousand years later or 14 centuries later? Jesus Christ responded to violence with a rejection of violence and to the suffering with a readiness to suffer. He befriended the poor and the weak as lovingly as he did the priviledged and the strong. The "sinner" was still respected as a child of "God." And given that his followers went mildly on to surrender their lives to annoyed governments just to accept such teachings, it's amazing Christianity survived. Eventually, these inspirations endured and devoured the greatest empire the world had seen. Christianity survived and conquered with it's message, not with sword (Such periods in history were to come much later). Islam has a complete opposite origin. It reflects a situation as if Christianity was born from Genesis instead of Matthew (Christs appearance). Islam, in the beginning, was exclusive to Arabs only and was wary of outside influences (something seen today). But Muhammed survived by making war on pagan Arabs, who once became subjugated, swelled the tribal armies of Islam. The force of "with us or against us"-a tool used by Jews and Christians in points in history-arroused latent energies. Islam exploded out of the Arabian peninsula with a fury that toppled empires, always through warfare. And after Muhammed died, the Shia succession became an inspried movement as Islam became the ultimate form of control and governance. The lands were conquered for Islam by the sword, but the populations were conquered by self interest.

* And what about the women? Christianity is rich with female heroism and the virtues of Christ's teachings are captured in icons like Ruth, Judith, and both Mary's. Even as Christ willingly died for the sins of other men, it was the women that stayed at the foot of the cross as the male disciples ran and hid. If we look in the Qu'ran, when women are mentioned at all they are used as a source of corruption-bent on cutting off more than Samson's hair. Women are used as proof that the old Mullah is always right and just.


Now look at our civilizations today? One civilization embraces education, creativity, toleration, human rights, equality between races and genders, and a more passive role in the world. The other oppresses and subjugates their women, stifles creatism and does not tolerate that which is against "God" to the degree that the "martyr" is justified. The existence of indoctrinated and celebrated hate fuels centuries of rage against Jews. Does the west prosper, because it has gone through the pain of reshaping Christianity for centuries and included the influence of other religions along the way? If this is true, can it also be true that the Islamic world suffers because of it's refusals? Is the Middle East a wrecked society because of their stagnations or the religon that encourages those stagnations?

We cannot allow oursleves this notion that we can dismiss the religions from this world as a shaping factor. In the Middle East, we see a monoply on religion. Well, if absolute power corrupts absolutely than absolute religious power corrupts religion absolutely.

What is the true purpose of people's needs to dismiss the world events of the day, by parading around the Bible's Old Testament? "9/11?.....Islamic Religious terrorists?......Never mind those...the Old Testament was bad too." The truth is that religion bashers haven't a clue about the religions they are bashing.

What I believe is that many people are angry because the person who posted this was purely insulting, and seemed to have absolutely no knowledge of the Islamic religion. He could have pulled his "information" off any christian fanatic website (which is why everyone may have re-attacked Christianity.

 

[MSgt]

What I believe is that many people are angry because the person who posted this was purely insulting, and seemed to have absolutely no knowledge of the Islamic religion. He could have pulled his "information" off any christian fanatic website (which is why everyone may have re-attacked Christianity.

This is very probable. This is exactly what we can't afford to do. Our enemies are drowning in religious fundamentalism whether they pick up the gun or not. They are absolutely convinced that this is a religious war carried over from the long ago past. The disciples of terror have been doing everything possible to encourage this since 1928. The last thing we need to do is to give into our anger and give their paranoia and needs credibility.

This isn't a war on Islam, but our enemies are legion and they are Islamic. We need to be saying this often.

 

[GarzaUK]

Islam and Christain origins are violent in origin. The bible and koran is full of human right abuses. The only difference it seems is that Christains "cherry pick" the things they like in the bible and ignore the rest of it. Muslims not so much.

 

[MSgt]

Islam and Christain origins are violent in origin. The bible and koran is full of human right abuses. The only difference it seems is that Christains "cherry pick" the things they like in the bible and ignore the rest of it. Muslims not so much.

This is wrong. It is completely erroneous. Christianity's origins come from Jesus and Islam comes from Muhammed. "Christianity" was not in existence before the New Testament. The books of each religion were written by man.

 

[Aleem]

Nothing is wrong with Muslims burning U.S. & Israeli flags, raping woman, and screaming "allah ackbar"?.

Burning flags is just a form of protestation, not a big deal. If you still have problem with that you can consult your country-mate Michael Savage(A San Francisco-based right-wing author and radio personality) who said: "Burn a Mexican flag for America, burn a Mexican flag for those who died that you should have a nationality and a sovereignty, go out in the street and show you're a man, burn 10 Mexican flags, if I could recommend it. Put one in the window upside down and tell them to go back where they came from!". Or you can refer to "Americans burn UN flag".

But "raping women"??! where did you get that? The last time i heard things even more horrible than that is in somewhere called Abu-Gharieb prison, Have you heard about it?

I think that Islam was spread by wars and violence. I consider the Islam religion to be a joke just like Greek mythology..

By sword? Are you telling me that Islam is rapidly growing in your country by The Sword? Please, Think again.

Modern day equivalent of Mohamad - http://funnypics.free.fr/explorer/public/img/r/retarded.jpg
picture of alah - http://www.monteverdeinfo.com/images/white-face-monkey-1.jpeg
:rofl .

There was no need to insult my religion.

The point of this post actually being that I think that some Muslims can't control their temper tantrums to some cartoons that offend Muslims shows their irrational thinking and behavior..

We couldn't control our temper And You can't help offending us.
By the way, Your post is pointless, You simply couldn't control your tantrum.

FYI- I believe that there are no Muslims in heaven.

You're Not God to decide that.

 

[Navy Seal Patriot]

Michael Savage(A San Francisco-based right-wing author and radio personality) who said: "Burn a Mexican flag for America, burn a Mexican flag for those who died that you should have a nationality and a sovereignty, go out in the street and show you're a man, burn 10 Mexican flags,

Good quote to prove your point from this Savage racist radio personality. If I use the typical DP guilt with association theory on this flag issue that means that hippies and conservatives who burn flags are just like Muslims--very violent; hmmm, what's the point to this thread again?

 

[nes]

Burning flags is just a form of protestation, not a big deal. If you still have problem with that you can consult your country-mate Michael Savage(A San Francisco-based right-wing author and radio personality) who said: "Burn a Mexican flag for America, burn a Mexican flag for those who died that you should have a nationality and a sovereignty, go out in the street and show you're a man, burn 10 Mexican flags, if I could recommend it. Put one in the window upside down and tell them to go back where they came from!". Or you can refer to "Americans burn UN flag".

Burning flags are a sign of prejudice. Showing they hate the people of an entire nation. Much like when the Muslim world hates Israel.

Americans burning U.N. flags? I see Muslims are the ones burning America, U.N., and Israeli flags.

But "raping women"??! where did you get that? The last time i heard things even more horrible than that is in somewhere called Abu-Gharieb prison, Have you heard about it?

The Muslim religion actively discriminates woman to the point of sexism. Believe me, I am not in support of feminism, but at the same time I am in support for equality for both males and females.

By sword? Are you telling me that Islam is rapidly growing in your country by The Sword? Please, Think again.

It was referred to during the first few hundred years of the existence of Islam. It was spread by cutting off heads of people who didn't believe in it.

There was no need to insult my religion.

You simply inferred it as an insult. Your telling me a false statement that I had no need to insult a religion?

We couldn't control our temper And You can't help offending us.
By the way, Your post is pointless, You simply couldn't control your tantrum.

Who is "we"?

You're Not God to decide that.

I think your misinterpreting what I said, I meant that there are no Muslim believers in heaven. Yet, it means that Muslims can convert while in hell or earth to go to heaven at almost any time. (by believing and accepting jesus)