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Isis wages war on gays 'usa, you are our primary goal'

ISIS is here, it's serious, and they are in our face.
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ISIL is failing, in no small part because the US is bombing the crap out of them.

Not so long ago, their goal was to build a caliphate in the Middle East. They are utterly incapable of doing so, because they can't move anything bigger than a donkey cart without a bomb falling on their heads.

As a result, they have shifted to international terrorism. A strategy that not only usually fails, but is not going to convince the US to back off, and is not going to help them build an Islamist nation.

Meanwhile, the shooter today seems to have had no contact with any terrorist groups. Rather, he name-checked groups that have very different ideologies and are in some instances fighting each other -- e.g. ISIL, al-Nusra, Hezbollah.

I.e. the guy had no idea who he was saluting.


The obama Regime has failed us completely and just like obama, the liberal weenie apologists, can't separate the radical muslim from a good muslim.
Can you?

Or do you genuinely believe that about 1 billion people on this planet want to destroy the United States, and the most effective way they can collectively do so is to attack a small office in California, and several months later a gay nightclub during Pride Month?


So they target guns as some sort of evil.
Or, they think that maybe it isn't such a great thing that a guy can walk into a nightclub with a military-grade weapon, shoot up the place, kill dozens of people, even while getting fired on by an off-duty cop. Anyway....


How stupid are liberals, including the asswipes in the MSM?
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How stupid are conservatives and fellow travelers, who hope that Trump can wave his Magic Wand of Autocracy, and make all those nasty Muslims go away?


Homeland security...has failed
The FBI..................has failed
The obama Regime..has failed
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The FBI interviewed him. He didn't do anything illegal. He's an American citizen. He didn't have any ties to any terror groups, national or international. What were they supposed to do? Get a time machine? Set up a Precrime Unit?


There was a security expert on TV tonight....he said be ready for a lot more to come!!! I've been saying it since 9-1-1.
You must be right about everything, then.

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Saying "there will be more terror attacks, at some point in the future" is about as valid -- and meaningless -- a prediction as "there will be more rain, at some point in the future." Terrorism is a tactic that gets lots of attention, and it will never go away. It also isn't affiliated with a specific religion or ideology (*COUGH* Tim McVeigh *COUGH*). More importantly, terrorism doesn't work. Israel won't disband because of terrorist attacks; France is not going to back down because there was a big terrorist attack; the US is not going to capitulate to ISIL because of the attack at Pulse;


The West has been at war with Islam since the 6th Century, history proves it......and it continues.
Uh, no, it proves nothing of the sort.

Christians have spent centuries killing each other. Many of those wars involved England, who at various times fought the Scots, the Irish, the French, and the Spanish. The French were powerful warriors, who struck fear into their opponents. Germany often fought with the French, the Italians, the Russians, the Hungarians, and itself (30 Years War). It was routine for Italian city-states -- even the Pope! -- to hire mercenaries to attack each other, or foreign invaders.

And of course, it was the Europeans who for basically no reason whatsoever, decided to wage a series of wars to take control of Jerusalem; and a few centuries later, take over the Middle East, carve it up six ways to Sunday, and in several cases kept brutal dictators in power to ensure that the oil kept flowing.

Not long after that, the US invaded a sovereign nation based on the flimsiest of excuses, and wound up killing at least 150,000 civilians over the course of the war.

The reality is that throughout much of history, Muslims were and are no more or less violent than Christians. Christians spent far more time and effort fighting each other than they did fighting Muslims. But hey, why pay any attention to actual history, when you can just cherry-pick the few things that support your claims?
 
Then you are aware that most religions and ideologies have similar demands to employ force and have done so recurrently over time. For instance, terror was a problem of atheists a short while ago and many of the present ISIS generals were officers in a secular dictator's regime.

I think that other than at a tactical and relatively detailed level religion is probably less interesting than distracting and leads in a wrong direction. What it does do, is lend populist forces in our political structures impetus and ignorant credibility. But as a rational point of discussion it falls flat.

Currently, no other religions have any similar demand, to compare with Fundamentalist Muslims of today.

You dont believe that is their intent...not for a second. You know their SOLE intent in dragging 'The Christians' into this is to minimize, excuse, and draw attention from the fact that once again, a fundamentalist extremist hs killed a bunch of people, this time at a gay dance club.

If you want to understand them, I'll help, but it will only be helpful if you listen. Extremist Fundamentalist Muslims exist in this world to kill you and anyone else who will not accept their version of Islam. Their goal is to convert the world and they arent the take
'no' for an answer types. There is but one answer and response to them. You wont hug it out. You wont love it out. You cant buy them a puppy.

Does that help?

And the Lefty hand wringers are all in a tizzy and need to blame Trump or gun owners, as a misdirection from the Truth.

Leviticus is old testament so it's pretty much gone from modern Christianity.

And visiting old history in other countries to justify mass murder in this country is fantasy land for pinhead professors.

Don't tell me Islam is innocent. This guy is being hailed as a hero in Muslim countries.

Correct.

LOL! Please point to the posts that are 'rabid defenses' of Islam.

Most liberal's posts.

Gone until some idiot or group of idiots decides to use it as an excuse again. Look at the idiot in Orlando - everybody on the Right is yelling about "It's because of Islam"...but according to his ex-wife, he was mentally unstable, beat her on a regular basis, and hated gays anyway (which set of personality traits is NOT the province of any one religion, but is found in ALL religions). The idiot used some verses from the Qur'an as his excuse (and, like all other terrorists, plainly ignored the verses which forbade his actions) and decided to start killing. This is what happens when religion is used by evil men as an excuse for what they do. And easy access to firearms makes it all the easier....

You will see some who "hail him like a hero"...but the overwhelming majority do not do so. You need to be careful to not cherry-pick and thereby allow your perception of the whole to be determined by the actions and words of the relative few. The proof? Add up all the idiots who've committed terrorism in America in the name of Islam - go ahead, add them all up - then compare that number to the 3.3 million Muslims who are ALREADY here in America.

In other words, if Muslims hated America in the name of Islam, you'd be seeing a hell of a lot more attacks. But instead, what you're seeing is the actions of what amounts to one out of every several hundred thousand Muslims who are already in America...

...but you're allowing the actions of those very, very few to color your perception of the millions who - having a better understanding of the actual tenets and commands of Islam - do not support such terrorist acts.

And one more thing - I am a strong Christian, so don't think I'm trying to defend Islam as a religion. I had to research Islam because of a book I wrote several years back. I am defending the Muslims because I hate to see people wrongly accused...which is precisely what the Right is doing by assigning blame to the millions for the actions of a relative very, very few.

The radicals are increasing...in America..... via American Muslims. More and more are being radicalized....that very small number...is constantly growing.
 
Yeah, and as I pointed out already, that's cherry-picking, just as is pointing out the verses in Leviticus that demand that disrespectful children be put to death.

YES, modern "Christianity" doesn't follow the commands in Leviticus...but by the same token, the overwhelming majority of Muslims do NOT follow the command in the verse you posted above...which you would know already if you would take the time and effort to actually see both sides of the story instead of keeping yourself ensconced in the right-wing echo chamber.

Comparing Islam's immediate danger with pre medivial Leviticus is not exactly a answer.
 
ISIS claims responsibility for Florida gay club massacre: American-Afghan terrorist phoned 911 to pledge allegiance to group DURING attack before he was killed by cops

Orlando shooting at Pulse is worst mass shooting in history with at least 50 dead | Daily Mail Online

Blame the liberal PC a-holes ! They let anyone into the Country and pledge to bring another 100,000 radical refugees into our Country . This guy was investigated twice as a terrorist and he buys guns a WEEK before the mass murders !! We as Americans must say the hell with being PC , and start to use our head and use common sense .
 
Comparing Islam's immediate danger with pre medivial Leviticus is not exactly a answer.

Damn straight!

Blame the liberal PC a-holes ! They let anyone into the Country and pledge to bring another 100,000 radical refugees into our Country . This guy was investigated twice as a terrorist and he buys guns a WEEK before the mass murders !! We as Americans must say the hell with being PC , and start to use our head and use common sense .

And that is what Trump is about! Go Trump!
 
Currently, no other religions have any similar demand, to compare with Fundamentalist Muslims of today.



And the Lefty hand wringers are all in a tizzy and need to blame Trump or gun owners, as a misdirection from the Truth.



Correct.



Most liberal's posts.



The radicals are increasing...in America..... via American Muslims. More and more are being radicalized....that very small number...is constantly growing.

Which demands are you referring to specifically?
 
btw....the Orlando shooting was not the largest mass shooting in US history.

That event came on Dec. 29, 1890. When 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota were murdered by federal agents & members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms “for their own safety and protection”.

Largest Mass Shooting in US History | Rep. Bill Post – Oregon House District 25
 
No blame for the W Administration? They were responsible for creating ISIS when we invaded Iraq...

Noooooooooooooo.......................ISIS is responsible for ISIS!

Typical Lefty BS deflection and misdirection!
 
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ISIL is failing, in no small part because the US is bombing the crap out of them.

Not so long ago, their goal was to build a caliphate in the Middle East. They are utterly incapable of doing so, because they can't move anything bigger than a donkey cart without a bomb falling on their heads.

As a result, they have shifted to international terrorism. A strategy that not only usually fails, but is not going to convince the US to back off, and is not going to help them build an Islamist nation.

Meanwhile, the shooter today seems to have had no contact with any terrorist groups. Rather, he name-checked groups that have very different ideologies and are in some instances fighting each other -- e.g. ISIL, al-Nusra, Hezbollah.

I.e. the guy had no idea who he was saluting.



Can you?

Or do you genuinely believe that about 1 billion people on this planet want to destroy the United States, and the most effective way they can collectively do so is to attack a small office in California, and several months later a gay nightclub during Pride Month?



Or, they think that maybe it isn't such a great thing that a guy can walk into a nightclub with a military-grade weapon, shoot up the place, kill dozens of people, even while getting fired on by an off-duty cop. Anyway....



:roll:

How stupid are conservatives and fellow travelers, who hope that Trump can wave his Magic Wand of Autocracy, and make all those nasty Muslims go away?



:roll:

The FBI interviewed him. He didn't do anything illegal. He's an American citizen. He didn't have any ties to any terror groups, national or international. What were they supposed to do? Get a time machine? Set up a Precrime Unit?



You must be right about everything, then.

:roll:

Saying "there will be more terror attacks, at some point in the future" is about as valid -- and meaningless -- a prediction as "there will be more rain, at some point in the future." Terrorism is a tactic that gets lots of attention, and it will never go away. It also isn't affiliated with a specific religion or ideology (*COUGH* Tim McVeigh *COUGH*). More importantly, terrorism doesn't work. Israel won't disband because of terrorist attacks; France is not going to back down because there was a big terrorist attack; the US is not going to capitulate to ISIL because of the attack at Pulse;



Uh, no, it proves nothing of the sort.

Christians have spent centuries killing each other. Many of those wars involved England, who at various times fought the Scots, the Irish, the French, and the Spanish. The French were powerful warriors, who struck fear into their opponents. Germany often fought with the French, the Italians, the Russians, the Hungarians, and itself (30 Years War). It was routine for Italian city-states -- even the Pope! -- to hire mercenaries to attack each other, or foreign invaders.

And of course, it was the Europeans who for basically no reason whatsoever, decided to wage a series of wars to take control of Jerusalem; and a few centuries later, take over the Middle East, carve it up six ways to Sunday, and in several cases kept brutal dictators in power to ensure that the oil kept flowing.

Not long after that, the US invaded a sovereign nation based on the flimsiest of excuses, and wound up killing at least 150,000 civilians over the course of the war.

The reality is that throughout much of history, Muslims were and are no more or less violent than Christians. Christians spent far more time and effort fighting each other than they did fighting Muslims. But hey, why pay any attention to actual history, when you can just cherry-pick the few things that support your claims?

ISIS may be incurring losses in Syria and Iraq, but they are growing in the US.

And you are citing ancient history for Christians........but the ancient history of Islam reigns supreme today.

Try and keep up ....this is 2016 and has NOTHING to do with Christianity in the Middle Ages!!

I'll make it easy for you...Christians of today don't murder and massacre people............Muslims of today....DO!
 
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At last, an ISIS initiative that US conservatives can get behind! (if you'll pardon the expression)
 
I suspected you had not read it before commenting.

I read it:
"Then you are aware that most religions and ideologies have similar demands to employ force and have done so recurrently over time."

And then I answered it!
 
The Quran requires death to homosexuals. The killer was carrying out Allah's orders. Few muslims truly and publically reject the Quran and its more outrageous teachings.

Obama didn't even have the decency to call it a "hate crime". Hes probably going to label it "entertainment venue violence" like drunks at a boxing match.

Obama specifically called it an act of terror AND an act of hate.
 
Yeah, he bragged about it and then congratulated himself. He's a disgusting pos.

Still accurate!

Meanwhile your CIC and ex SOS refuse to call it what is really is.

But then again, Hillary needs that money from those people who kills gays and beat women for dressing improperly.
 
Obama specifically called it an act of terror AND an act of hate.

Not exactly...

Obama: ‘We’ are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre | New York Post

...He called it “terror,” which it is. But using the word “terror” without a limiting and defining adjective is like a doctor calling a disease “cancer” without making note of the affected area of the body — because if he doesn’t know where the cancer is and what form it takes, he cannot attack it effectively and seek to extirpate it....

He fell very short in his full throated accusation of radical Islam.
 
Yeah, he bragged about it and then congratulated himself. He's a disgusting pos.

Not nearly as disgusting as that POS, obama!

Still accurate!

Meanwhile your CIC and ex SOS refuse to call it what is really is.

But then again, Hillary needs that money from those people who kills gays and beat women for dressing improperly.

:applaud

Not exactly...

Obama: ‘We’ are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre | New York Post



He fell very short in his full throated accusation of radical Islam.

He always falls short...he pulls his pud and comes up short.
 
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