Ironfist17
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So...every place America tried to determine who should lead that country has turned into a complete mess and the vacuum is being filled by extremists. Iraq, Libya, Syria..all had America butt in to their affairs by force and all are complete messes.
Well duh...I could have told you that years ago.
Neocons are FAR more of a threat to America then ISIS could ever dream of being.
So...every place America tried to determine who should lead that country has turned into a complete mess and the vacuum is being filled by extremists. Iraq, Libya, Syria..all had America butt in to their affairs by force and all are complete messes.
Well duh...I could have told you that years ago.
Neocons are FAR more of a threat to America then ISIS could ever dream of being.
Those places were hell to begin with and powder kegs waiting to explode. The major problem might have been too little stomach for the necessities, too much crossfire from other actors and too little support from the International community.
Sources: ISIS terrorists using chaotic Libya as new
So it looks like ISIS can't be stopped anymore. While Obama was too busy with helping Kurds to fight for their independence from Iraq and Syria jihadists captured some important settlements and towns in Libya. ISIS is spreading around like cancer and it seems like nothing can stop them anymore since it doesn't look like they have a central authority. And now they are heading towards Europe en masse pretending to be refugees. Is there any possible way to stop them?
That's total bull****. Gaddafi ran that place since he was 27. And a decade ago he began nicely co-operating with the Bush administration because he didn't want to get Iraqed!! So much for that.
See! It's what we've been saying all along, you and I.
You do like the myopic view. Don't you.
You mean neocons like Obama?
And look at the view that compared Gaddafi's Libya with today's Libya. :shock:
Sources: ISIS terrorists using chaotic Libya as new
So it looks like ISIS can't be stopped anymore. While Obama was too busy with helping Kurds to fight for their independence from Iraq and Syria jihadists captured some important settlements and towns in Libya. ISIS is spreading around like cancer and it seems like nothing can stop them anymore since it doesn't look like they have a central authority. And now they are heading towards Europe en masse pretending to be refugees. Is there any possible way to stop them?
And? Of course it is bad. Revolt and revolution are always bad. What do you think? Don't be silly.
Don't be dismissive of the mess that the US/NATO created in Libya.
So let me get this straigh. Bush destabilizing Iraq and occupying it leading to a civil war thus, in which ISIS was essentially formed out of, is not Bushs' fault.. But Libya in which Obama bombed, and helped destabilize, thus leaving room for a civil war and ISIS to form in, IS Obamas fault... Tell me, where is the hypocrisy in such statements?
Is there any possible way to stop them?
That's total bull****. Gaddafi ran that place since he was 27. And a decade ago he began nicely co-operating with the Bush administration because he didn't want to get Iraqed!! So much for that.
I think you overestimate the role played by the allies. Autocracies are brittle things. When they loose their grip it can become very messy and only a small pressure can shatter, what seemed like steel.
And in the last year of his life, Gaddafi was murdering his own people. He deserved to die.
Obama and the rest of the world were too lazy to stick around long enough to help bring stability to the country.
Obama and the rest of the world were too lazy to stick around long enough to help bring stability to the country.
The US has stuck around for a couple decades, and stability isn't a bi product anywhere.
Sources: ISIS terrorists using chaotic Libya as new
So it looks like ISIS can't be stopped anymore. While Obama was too busy with helping Kurds to fight for their independence from Iraq and Syria jihadists captured some important settlements and towns in Libya. ISIS is spreading around like cancer and it seems like nothing can stop them anymore since it doesn't look like they have a central authority. And now they are heading towards Europe en masse pretending to be refugees. Is there any possible way to stop them?
Stuck around where?
Exactly the point, so don't pry the grip lose.
That is a matter of opinion and circumstance.
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