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ISIS Counter-Offense Tunnels, Snipers Defense of Fallujah

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"A four-mile-long tunnel hidden beneath the Islamic State-held city of Fallujah – where the group's fighters sleep and hide – has played a pivotal role in the militants' counter offensive against Iraqi forces.

The Times reported that popular mobilisation forces, predominantly Shia pro-government militias, uncovered a two-meter-high tunnel believed to be the longest such Isis passage ever discovered. The tunnel, discovered in Saqlawiyah, an agricultural area to the north of Fallujah, was described as a vital artery for weapons and supplies in Isis defence.


"Hussain Mustafa, a Shia militiaman, told the Times "Isis use the tunnels to avoid airstrikes — when pilots are trying to strike they can't find them."The Islamic State (Daesh) was able to use the sophisticated tunnels to deploy snipers, which supported suicide bomb attacks in Fallujah on 31 May. The four-hour assault stalled Iraqi forces' offensive in the city which has involved tens of thousands of troops.
The UN has warned that 50,000 civilians risk being used as human shields by the Islamic State in Fallujah. Around 3,700 people – 624 families – have fled Fallujah since the new offensive by Iraqi forces to retake the city began last week, according to figures provided by Iraqi authorities."

Battle for Fallujah: Isis sniper 'moles' use four-mile-long tunnel to stall Iraq offensive





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"U.S. military officials say the battle for Fallujah could last anywhere from days—once troops enter Fallujah proper—to months, depending on how ISIS responds to the Iraqi offensive and U.S. airstrikes. There is precedent of ISIS both launching counteroffensives and fleeing Iraqi cities coming under threat from the Iraqi security forces.Some U.S. officials believe the battle for Fallujah could be as ferocious and intense as ISIS’s months-long battle with Kurdish forces for control of the northern Syrian city of Kobani. In other words, while ISIS has generally not stuck around to fight major battles, Fallujah could be the exception. The city is the keystone to the jihadist threat in Iraq today much as it was during the nearly decade-long U.S. war there."



The Mystery Battle for Fallujah, the Heart of ISIS in Iraq - The Daily Beast



Isis is stepping up bombing of Baghdad. Civilians in Fallujah are caught in the crossfire. What are other strategies for using civilians in defense of Fallujah?



"As the Iraqi military digs in against ISIS in the battle for Fallujah, American human rights advocates and Iraqi activists are voicing alarm about the potential for more sectarian atrocities from some Iraqi forces and their militia allies in the event of victory – a possible continuation of captives being tortured and executed with impunity, often on camera.
Over the weekend Iraqi officials confirmed that Iraq's controversial Popular Mobilization Forces [PMFs], Shiite-dominated militia groups, are participating in the fight for Fallujah, just west of Baghdad in central Iraq.
Human Rights Watch and the U.S. Departments of State and Defense have reported continued instances of war crimes over the past year in Sunni areas north of Baghdad such as Tikrit — showing that some groups in the military and militias on Baghdad's payroll have not stopped committing abuses since an ABC News investigation revealed widespread atrocities posted on social media 14 months ago."



Observers Fear 'Dirty Brigade' Atrocities After ISIS Fight in Fallujah - ABC News


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"Hardliners from Iraq's Shiite majority have assailed Abadi for his cozy relationship with Western powers such as the U.S. Populist Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr — once one of America's most powerful opponents in Iraq — has led regular, often violent street protests over the past several months demanding that Abadi and his allies resign unless parliament approves a new cabinet of technocratic ministers. Leaders from Iraq's Sunni minority, meanwhile, remain deeply distrustful of the Shiite-dominated government that Abadi leads.
And an uptick in suicide car bombings throughout the capital Baghdad has killed hundreds over the past several weeks, shattering public faith in Abadi's ability to secure areas beyond ISIS control. "


Analysis: Fight for Fallujah Highlights Abadi'''s Political Battle - NBC News







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"Hardliners from Iraq's Shiite majority have assailed Abadi for his cozy relationship with Western powers such as the U.S. Populist Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr — once one of America's most powerful opponents in Iraq — has led regular, often violent street protests over the past several months demanding that Abadi and his allies resign unless parliament approves a new cabinet of technocratic ministers. Leaders from Iraq's Sunni minority, meanwhile, remain deeply distrustful of the Shiite-dominated government that Abadi leads.
And an uptick in suicide car bombings throughout the capital Baghdad has killed hundreds over the past several weeks, shattering public faith in Abadi's ability to secure areas beyond ISIS control. "


Analysis: Fight for Fallujah Highlights Abadi'''s Political Battle - NBC News







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I think the war will become more terrorism in the Cities as ISIS loses ground. They're being squeezed in Raqa and Fallujah and pretty soon Mosul. They'll just slither away and increase car bombings and the like. There is just no comfort zone anywhere for the Iraqis. Hopefully they will discover a database of the ISIS troops and get IDs and photos to track the bastards.
 

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I think the war will become more terrorism in the Cities as ISIS loses ground. They're being squeezed in Raqa and Fallujah and pretty soon Mosul. They'll just slither away and increase car bombings and the like. There is just no comfort zone anywhere for the Iraqis. Hopefully they will discover a database of the ISIS troops and get IDs and photos to track the bastards.


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"Other citizens confirmed that they are eating fodder for lunch. As for water, they receive it once per week on Monday and only for one hour.

The citizens told Asharq Al-Awsat that suicide in their city is happening on a daily basis. They noted that starving Fallujah was preplanned as the government and coalition forces have been practicing mass punishment against the city, which resisted them during their invasion.

Furthermore, Life with ISIS in Fallujah has become impossible. “Entire families committed mass suicide due to starvation and disappointment in the pointless siege of the city by Iraqi forces,” said civilians who managed to escape the city.

“Since the beginning of this year, Anbar authorities in coordination with the Iraqi security forces have opened safe corridors to the people of Fallujah fleeing from ISIS,” Suhaib al-Rawi, the Governor of Anbar province explained for Asharq Al-Awsat. “But ISIS has planted bombs on the corridor,” Rawi added."




Mass Suicide Becomes Only Solution in Fallujah - ASHARQ AL-AWSAT



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"Iraqi special forces were poised to assault one of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group's most emblematic bastions, Fallujah, as the group counter-attacked in both Iraq and neighbouring Syria.

The fighting on Sunday prompted a new exodus of thousands of desperate civilians from the surrounding areas and deep concern for the many more trapped in the battlegrounds.

The overall commander of the Fallujah operation, Abdelwahab al-Saadi, said on Saturday it was a matter of hours before the Counter-Terrorism Service (CTS) entered the city.

The week-old operation has so far focused on retaking villages and rural areas around Fallujah, which lies just 50 kilometres west of Baghdad."



Iraqi army poised for Fallujah assault against ISIL - AJE News


https://www.google.com/?#q=iraqi+army+inroads+fallujah


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"Executive Summary: The next forty-five days constitute a high-risk period for a surge of attacks by ISIS during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. ISIS traditionally uses Ramadan – which begins on June 6 and ends on July 5, 2016 - as a justification for its attacks and as an occasion to reorient its strategy. This year, ISIS will likely take action to reverse serious losses in Iraq and Syria while expanding its attacks against the non-Muslim world in an attempt to spark an apocalyptic total war. ISIS is still operationally capable in its core terrain and stands poised to expand its operations over the next six weeks, particularly in Turkey, Lebanon, and Jordan. This forecast will outline the most likely and most dangerous targets that ISIS may seek to operate against during Ramadan.​
ISIS will implement its global strategy with simultaneous and linked campaigns across multiple geographic rings. ISW has refined its previous assessment of these geographic campaigns to identify the following four rings: core terrain, including Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, Israel, and the Sinai Peninsula; regional power centers, including Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, and Egypt; the remainder of the Muslim world; and the non-Muslim world. ISIS will pursue different strategic objectives in each ring in order to advance its grand strategic objective to expand its caliphate across all Muslim lands while provoking and winning an apocalyptic war against the West.ISIS has suffered numerous losses within Iraq and Syria that it will likely seek to reverse by setting new conditions during Ramadan. - See more at: ISIS Forecast: Ramadan 2016 | Institute for the Study of War"


ISIS Forecast: Ramadan 2016 | Institute for the Study of War



https://www.google.com/?#q=ramadan+iraq+fighting+isis








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"Iraqi forces secured the southern edge of the Islamic State group stronghold of Fallujah on Sunday, two weeks after the launch of an operation to recapture the city, the Iraqi special forces commander overseeing the operation said.

Iraqi special forces, also known as its counterterrorism forces, have secured the largely agricultural southern neighborhood of Naymiyah under cover of U.S.-led coalition airstrikes, Lt. Gen. Abdel Wahab al-Saadi said. Special forces are now poised to enter the main city, al-Saadi said."

"Tall dirt berms dot the dusty fields to the city's south. A single column of counterterrorism Humvees snaked up toward a row of low lying houses that mark the beginning of the main city.

"VIBED! VIBED!" shouted an Iraqi air commander from a small mobile base on Fallujah's southern edge. Using an acronym for a car bomb, the Iraqi special forces officer called to Australian coalition forces over a hand-held radio. Moments later, a plume of white, then black smoke appeared on the horizon. Commanders at the scene said the explosion was created by a coalition rocket destroying the incoming car bomb."





Iraqi forces secure southern edge of ISIS-held Fallujah


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https://www.google.com/?#q=MILITARY+FALLUJAH,+ISIS


Some experts say Fallujah is unimportant. Fallujah has served as a launching area for bombs in Baghdad. There are roads to Syria, from Fallujah. Since Fallujah is close to Baghdad, so it should be manageable to hold Fallujah, after Isis leaves, .


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For taking back Fallujah, could drones with cameras be used to direct fire from other drones? Could drones be used to plant cameras on the edges of buildings, to provide surveillance of streets and buildings? Can unmanned vehicles be used to detonate land mines? It seems there should be some advanced technology strategies for targeting ISIS fighters, and avoiding risks to Iraqi Military and militia fighters. Perhaps these strategies are not discussed openly. Just seems there could be Modern ways to minimize casualties for civilians and Iraqi Army.

Fallujah could be a development laboratory for using technology to clear a city, with minimum damage to buildings, and minimal risk to civilians,





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From Jan 2015


"The Pentagon’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has established a research and development program, known as the Fast Lightweight Autonomy Program (FLAP) which aims to develop new types of unmanned aerial vehicles—more commonly known as drones—for urban combat operations, according to the Washington Times.

DARPA is preparing to dispense several initial $5 million contracts to companies bidding to produce the new drone models sought by the US military, which will have the ability to fly inside structures, maneuver through tight spaces, and operate autonomously from human controllers, all at speeds of up to 70 kilometers per hour. The drones are specifically designed to mimic the flight capabilities of the goshawk, a bird species. Private sector firms will begin submitting bids as early as Tuesday.

In addition to the goshawk type, the US military is already acquiring drones the size of mosquitos as part of an Army Research Laboratory program called Micro Autonomous Systems and Technology (MAST), run as a collaboration between the Defense Department, BAE Systems, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and several major US universities. The Black Hornet Personal Reconnaissance System, a miniature rotary wing drone that takes high definition photographs and transmits footage instantaneously to its handler, has already been used by occupation forces in Afghanistan to surveil enemy positions.

“Birds of prey and flying insects exhibit the kinds of capabilities we want for small UAVs [Unmanned Aerial Vehicles]… The goal of the FLA program is to explore non-traditional perception and autonomy methods that would give small UAVs the capacity to perform in a similar way [to bird and insect species],"


https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/01/05/dron-j05.html


https://www.google.com/?#q=urban+war+with+drones


"As U.S. airpower returns to Iraq and spreads to Syria in the fight against ISIS, the utility of air assets in urban areas should be revisited. Despite the wealth of literature on the topic within U.S. military circles in the late 1990s and early 2000s, the lessons and technology developed during and since the Iraq War have been poorly covered with reference to this question. Consequently, the experience from engagements including Fallujah I and II (2004), Mosul (2004) and Sadr City (2008), and the Iraq War more broadly, as well as the developments surrounding this technology in the last ten years has been neglected. Despite becoming a flavor of the month in military circles because of their tactical capabilities and ethical implications, UAVs remain an understudied subject with regards to what can be achieved from the perspective of the challenging battlespace that is urban warfare.
Airpower in Urban Terrain
Historically, aircraft have faced numerous practical and resulting political issues in operating in dense urban landscapes. To name a few: Deploying munitions safely and effectively; delivering accurate and timely intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR); being deployed safely with regards to aircrew; and airpower working as part of a joint force. These practical issues in turn create political issues from collateral damage – noncombatant and structural – as well as from the deaths of U.S. servicemen due to enemy and friendly fire. While the latter places pressure on the U.S. military from the public, the former creates local, domestic, and international pressure to restrict airpower’s rules of engagement so as to cease violations of the Law of Armed Conflict"

Can Drones Help Us Clear ISIS-Controlled Cities? | Cicero Magazine | Ideas on War & Peace






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isis car bombs Fallujah

"An air strike in Iraq completely levelled one of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria militant group’s largest car bomb factories on Wednesday in a massive explosion heard for kilometers (miles), officials said.

The strike hit a facility at the entrance to the town of Hawijah in northern Iraq that was used to rig vehicles with explosives for bombings that are one of ISIS’ deadliest tactics, they said.

The facility, which included tanks, Humvees and large quantities of explosives, was “the biggest factory in Iraq and Syria”, an Iraqi colonel said.

The officers said the blast caused heavy ISIS casualties but also killed and wounded civilians.

Mohammed Khalil al-Juburi, the deputy head of the Kirkuk province security committee, confirmed details of the attack, and also said it caused major casualties among both ISIS and civilians.

An AFP journalist heard the huge explosion in Kirkuk, 55 kilometers (34 miles) away.

Mobile phone photos obtained by AFP that were said to show the site of the explosion picture damage on a massive scale.

They show a huge field of debris -- cinderblocks, metal roofing, the twisted remains of vehicles -- that stretches as far as the eye can see."

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...destroys-huge-is-car-bomb-plant-in-Iraq-.html

https://www.google.com/?#q=isis+car+bombs+fallujah


Perhaps the first step in Fallujah is for the Iraqi forces to identify the car bombs, and explode or otherwise disable the car bombs.

It may be useful to destroy cars, even if it is not certain they are carrying bombs. There are probably a number of car bombs in Fallujah, under the control of ISIS.


The object of war is to create a change in mindset of the enemy. The mindset of ISIS may be that they have plenty of car bombs in Fallujah, to create problems for Iraqi troops for some time. Maybe if ISIS has less car bombs, they will get the idea that defending some other piece or ISIS real estate, may be a better idea, and leave Fallujah.

Tow trucks may be an important factor in Fallujah. Disabling cars and blocking up streets may adversely affect the movement of car bombs for ISIS.


Maybe designing a robot to steal car batteries may be a way to get control of a city. Leave the vehicle in tact, to minimize the impact on innocent civilian vehicles.






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I think the war will become more terrorism in the Cities as ISIS loses ground. They're being squeezed in Raqa and Fallujah and pretty soon Mosul. They'll just slither away and increase car bombings and the like. There is just no comfort zone anywhere for the Iraqis. Hopefully they will discover a database of the ISIS troops and get IDs and photos to track the bastards.

Man alive, we sure did the Iraqis a great favor by importing "democracy" into their country under Bush & Co. :roll:
 

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Man alive, we sure did the Iraqis a great favor by importing "democracy" into their country under Bush & Co. :roll:

There is a train of thought that Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama are responsible for all the difficulties in Iraq Today because they failed to negotiate a deal to keep US troops in Iraq in 2011.

Few people point out that one of the reasons the Iraqis were reluctant to have continued US troop presence, was because of the Contractor Black Uniformed mercenary's used by the US to conduct midnight interrogations of suspects, in a disrespectful manner, bordering on torture techniques.

So it was not just that Bush W. decided to invade Iraq, it is also that Bush W decided to use contractors that did not follow rules of engagement.

"Private security guards from Blackwater Worldwide participated in some of the C.I.A.’s most sensitive activities — clandestine raids with agency officers against people suspected of being insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan and the transporting of detainees, according to former company employees and intelligence officials.
The raids against suspects occurred on an almost nightly basis during the height of the Iraqi insurgency from 2004 to 2006, with Blackwater personnel playing central roles in what company insiders called “snatch and grab” operations, the former employees and current and former intelligence officers said.

Several former Blackwater guards said that their involvement in the operations became so routine that the lines supposedly dividing the Central Intelligence Agency, the military and Blackwater became blurred. Instead of simply providing security for C.I.A. officers, they say, Blackwater personnel at times became partners in missions to capture or kill militants in Iraq and Afghanistan, a practice that raises questions about the use of guns for hire on the battlefield."


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/us/politics/11blackwater.html?_r=0




Blackwater was not used much under Obama in Iraq, the lid had come off. So I believe that there was a genuine resentment of US troop presence in Iraq, by many residents in Iraq. The advantage to having left Iraq, is that now more percentage of Iraq Residents/citizens are more welcoming of US Troop involvement in operations against Islamic Militants.


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"ISIS fighters were collecting more munitions from their pickup truck offering an opportune moment to strike them as they were rounded up closer to the target. The Iraqi Army Aviation CH-4B drones were armed with 1x HJ-10 guided missiles.'


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Iraqi Army Aviation CH-4B Drones in Fallujah | Military.com



Video from 6-7-16. Looks to me like the missile hit across the street from the Pick Up truck, but ma have exploded the truck,




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500 ISIS fighters in Fallujah.


"Part of the U.S. military’s uncertainty about how the campaign against ISIS will shape up in Fallujah is that there is no precise comparable battle, despite fact that American forces have fought there over and over again in the last thirteen years. In all, there are an estimated 500 ISIS fighters in Fallujah, the officials said, the same number as there were in the city of Ramadi, which took five months to fall out of ISIS control"


The Mystery Battle for Fallujah, the Heart of ISIS in Iraq - The Daily Beast






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https://www.almasdarnews.com/articl...ajar-police-station-isis-fallujah-map-update/ | Al-Masdar News

the 1st stage of the Fallujah campaign is targeting areas east of the city; newly deployed Major General Qasem Soleimani seem to be carrying out a military pincer manuever which aims at squeezing ISIS forces out of the eastern region. Once phase one is completed and ISIS is expelled, the 2nd stage of the offensive is expected to embroil Fallujah city in urban warfare.

In total, some 500-700 ISIS fighters are estimated to be held up in the city of Fallujah with hundreds more in the surrounding countryside. Iraqi forces outnumber ISIS at least 10 to 1; however, government troops are unable to make rapid advances due to mines, improvised explosives and ISIS’ suicide bombers. Nevertheless, shelling and airstrikes continued to target Fallujah today as ISIS fighters were given no safe haven inside the city.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/articl...ajar-police-station-isis-fallujah-map-update/ | Al-Masdar News




https://www.almasdarnews.com/articl...ajar-police-station-isis-fallujah-map-update/


https://www.google.com/?#q=500+isis+fighters+fallujah


"Fayadh escaped Sijir on May 27, four days after the government offensive on Fallujah began, with a group of 15 relatives and neighbors, walking through farmland brandishing white flags.
Most of the 1,500 displaced people who found refuge in the school in Garma were women and children, because the army takes men for screening over possible ties with Islamic State (Daesh / ISIS).
Fayadh said the situation in the city was very difficult. "The only thing remaining in the few shops open was dates, old, stale dates and even those were very expensive," she said.
Azhar Nazar Hadi, 45, said the militants had asked her family to move from Sijir into Fallujah itself, a clear attempt to use them as human shields. "The last seven months we ran out of everything and had to survive on dates, and water," she said.
Between 500 and 700 militants are in Fallujah, according to a U.S. military estimate. The Shia militia coalition that is supporting the Iraqi army offensive on the city says the number of ISIS fighters there is closer to 2,500."

VIDEO: Iraqi Refugees Fled from Fallujah Say ISIS Uses Food to Enlist Fighters







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"ISIS fighters were collecting more munitions from their pickup truck offering an opportune moment to strike them as they were rounded up closer to the target. The Iraqi Army Aviation CH-4B drones were armed with 1x HJ-10 guided missiles.'


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Iraqi Army Aviation CH-4B Drones in Fallujah | Military.com



Video from 6-7-16. Looks to me like the missile hit across the street from the Pick Up truck, but ma have exploded the truck,




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You can see a second explosion some ways across the road from where the first explosion was. It's hard to tell from that clip just what was blown up, or how many missiles were fired. Why Iraq bought Chinese drones and missiles, I do not know. Cheaper, maybe? It could have used American ones, and made sure of the job.

Something about that tunnel story doesn't add up. If the thing is that big, it shouldn't be hard to find an entrance to it, go in, and destroy it and everything inside it. Thermobaric weapons are tailor-made for use against enclosed spaces like tunnels. I think ground-penetrating radar would also show an image of a tunnel that large, and the right kind of bombs placed directly above it would surely cave it in.
 

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Man alive, we sure did the Iraqis a great favor by importing "democracy" into their country under Bush & Co. :roll:

"In the media coverage, the question as to how and why ISIS was able to gain control of the city two years ago is largely ignored. To the extent it is raised, the explanation given is Sunni resentment over the sectarian and discriminatory policies of the Shiite-dominated government— after the withdrawal of American troops in 2011. The Iraqi people as a whole are generally portrayed as incurably divided along Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish lines, incapable of living in harmony together and inherently attracted to extremist ethno-sectarian ideologies.

A review of the tortured history of Fallujah since 2003 makes clear that this narrative is a lie. The current situation in Iraq and neighbouring Syria is the outcome and continuation of the deliberate stoking of sectarian conflict by the American occupation for the purpose of dividing the Iraqi masses and cementing the US grip over the oil-rich Middle East.

After the illegal invasion of Iraq and overthrow of the Baathist regime of Saddam Hussein, Fallujah was the scene of one of the first widely reported crimes by American troops against Iraqi civilians. Two hundred youth demanding the reopening of their school were fired on by troops of the US 82nd Airborne Division. Seventeen were murdered and over 70 wounded.

Over the following months, Fallujah emerged as a centre of Iraqi resistance to the US occupation. By early 2004, the city was effectively controlled by armed groups overwhelmingly made up of former members of the Iraqi Army and local Sunni tribes. Religious-based extremists, such as the small grouping calling itself “Al Qaeda in Iraq,” had only a minor presence.

The killing of four Blackwater mercenaries in Fallujah in March 2004 triggered a massive American military response. Across Iraq, the defiance of the people of Fallujah became a clarion call for resistance. In the first week of April, the stand in the city against the occupation was joined by an uprising of tens of thousands of Shiite working class youth in Baghdad and cities across southern Iraq. The armed insurgency against the US forces spread to predominantly Sunni cities such as Ramadi, Tikrit and Mosul."

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/06/08/pers-j08.html


George W Bush and Dick Cheney cannot leave the US, because other countries will allow the arrest of W and Cheney as war criminals. Trump better plan on not leaving the US, also, if he becomes president. Any crimes by US troops or contractors will probably be attributed to Trumps remarks supporting torture.






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Negotiating Terms of Surrender for ISIS fighters in Fallujah.

What terms of Surrender could be offered to ISIS fighters in Fallujah?

Free trip to Guantanamo, Cuba with room and Board? Maybe even some medical treatment?

Maybe unrestricted rights to make a book deal, or movie deal?

Maybe 5 Years max at Gitmo, before return to Iraq, or a Saudi rehab center?




What are all the terms that ISIS fighters in Fallujah would like in the terms of surrender?
 
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Negotiating Terms of Surrender for ISIS fighters in Fallujah.

What terms of Surrender could be offered to ISIS fighters in Fallujah?

Free trip to Guantanamo, Cuba with room and Board? Maybe even some medical treatment?

Maybe unrestricted rights to make a book deal, or movie deal?

Maybe 5 Years max at Gitmo, before return to Iraq, or a Saudi rehab center?




What are all the terms that ISIS fighters in Fallujah would like in the terms of surrender?

Have you got a link to ISIS surrendering?
 

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Have you got a link to ISIS surrendering?

"Most returned European fighters never see the inside of a courtroom for one frightening reason: nobody really knows what they did abroad. Some jihadis are obsessively discreet, even halting communication with their parents. Others, like Delefortrie, broadcast their exploits online, but that may not always provide enough evidence for a courtroom. Anja Dalgaard-Nielsen, a former executive director of the Danish Security and Intelligence Service and the current director of the Institute for Strategy at the Royal Danish Defence College, told me the bar for what qualifies as “intelligence” is, “for good reason, lower than the bar you have to pass when you prosecute in a court of law.” “Is it sufficient” evidence for a courtroom, Dalgaard-Nielsen asked, “that someone is posting on social media, in camo fatigues and with weapons, claiming that he joined a terrorist group?”

What Happens to Former ISIS Fighters? - The New Yorker


"On the other side, on the very edge of Syria, lies an unconscious man wrapped like a doll in a blood-drenched duvet. The commandos unlock the fence, open a section of it and drag him onto Israeli soil.

But this wounded man is not an Israeli soldier, or even an Israeli citizen. He is an Islamic militant. And his rescue forms part of an extraordinary humanitarian mission that is fraught with danger and has provoked deep controversy on all sides.

MailOnline has gained unprecedented access to this secretive and hazardous operation, embedding with the commandos to obtain exclusive footage, and interviewing the medics who are obliged to treat Syrian militants, some of whom openly admit that they intend to kill Israelis.

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" Palestinian-American member of the Islamic State terror group has surrendered to an Iraqi Kurdish military unit in northern Iraq, a Kurdish general said Monday.

The individual was identified as Mohammed Jamal Amin, 27, from Virginia, a source in the Peshmerga forces told Fox News. Amin was born in Virginia to a Palestinian father and Iraqi mother from Mosul, the Turkish news agency Rudaw reported.


Maj. Gen. Feisal Helkani told The Associated Press that Amin surrendered on Monday morning at an inspection point near the town of Sinjar, which was retaken by Iraqi forces from ISIS militants late last year.

Helkani said Amin had been "lurking near the peshmerga lines" since late Sunday night, and his troops first tried to shoot him, assuming he was a would-be suicide bomber.

"Then in the morning, he walked across and gave himself up," Helkani added.

Helkani said Amin was carrying with him a large amount of cash, three cellphones and three forms of identification, including a United States driver's license. He is currently being held by the peshmerga troops for interrogation."


ISIS member, an American citizen, surrenders in Iraq | Fox News


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"190 ISIS members surrender to the Iraqi forces in Samarra
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Not Many Surrendered so far.


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"Peshmerga spokesman Qadir Qadir confirmed in a statement that dozens of ISIS members arrived on Wednesday evening to a Peshmerga-held area east of Mosul and handed over their weapons at a Kurdish security checkpoint.

“The militants had evacuated their strongholds in Mosul suburb and surrendered to the Kurdish Peshmerga,” Qadir said.

The official added that the ISIS dissidents have been transferred to a Kurdish security center in northern Iraq for interrogations.

“This indicates an apparent collapse within the ISIS military leadership in Mosul. The group will sooner or later fall apart. Corruption and brutality of ISIS commanders against the people have caused a clear state of mistrust between its members,” the Peshmerga spokesman said, adding that the Kurdish forces and allies will soon announce the liberation of Mosul. "


Dozens of ISIS fighters surrender to the Kurdish Peshmerga northern Iraq - ARA News


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"The development came after President Bashar al-Assad in a televised address in July pardoned all soldiers who have fled the army, saying that his words served as a general decree to relevant officials.Hundreds of gunmen have been laying down their weapons and turning themselves in to authorities in areas across the country.
This number seems to be on the rise as the army has been making steady gains in the battlefield against the terrorist groups, recapturing an increasing number of regions, including strategic sites, which helped cut off many of the militants’ supply routes and forced them to surrender or run away.
Also in the past 24 hours, the Syrian air raids destroyed concentration centers of the ISIL, al-Nusra Front and other terrorist groups in Hama and Idlib."


Over 1,000 ISIS and Al Nusra Militants Surrender To Syrian Army In Last 24 Hours | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization



So terms of surrender may be a factor in encouraging Fallujah ISIS fighters to surrender.






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Perhaps one plan for incremental success is for Iraqi troops to create safe passage paths for civilians to leave the city.


"Rasool said: 'There were exit routes previously, but this is the first to be completely secured and it’s relatively safe.'

An estimated 4,000 people have fled the city since the new escape route has opened up.



The al-Salam Junction route was secured after troops dislodged insurgents from districts located on the western bank of the Euphrates river, opposite Fallujah’s city centre on the east bank, said Rasool. He did not give a number for the civilians who were able to flee so far using it.

More than 20,000 people have managed to flee the city and its surrounding area since the Iraqi army began the offensive on May 23, the United Nations said on June 8."


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"Iraq’s army claimed on Monday to have arrested hundreds of alleged Isil fighters melting away from Fallujah as government-backed groups edged closer towards the terror group’s stronghold.

Hadi Rzayej, the province’s police chief, said 546 “suspected terrorists” had been arrested among the crowds of fleeing civilians. He told AFP that many of the men were using fake identification cards.

Iraq’s army, backed by Shia militiamen and Sunni tribal fighters, is close to wresting Fallujah from Isil, two years after it became the first major city to fall to the terror group."

"It was neither possible to confirm either the number of arrests made by the military nor how many of the men were Isil fighters. Estimates for the number of Isil fighters holed up inside Fallujah have varied from 1,000 to 2,500.

Human rights groups have warned that the arrest and screening of military age males fleeing the area - a common practice in Iraq’s anti-Isil offensive - may lead to serious abuses behind closed doors."

Isil fighters arrested attempting to flee Fallujah disguised as civilians, Iraqi army saysÂ*


ISIS fighters can try to avoid surrender, by pretending to be civilians.


Perhaps that was one of the reasons for ISIS keeping civilians in Fallujah, was so when defeat looked imminent, the ISIS fighters could disguise themselves as civilians, and be able to escape Fallujah, as refugees.


"Street battles

Yet the flow of residents fleeing via the corridor and through the Al-Salam intersection to the southwest of the city, appeared to dry up on Monday, the Norwegian Refugee Council's (NRC) Karl Schembri said. The NRC has been operating in Iraq since 2010.

"We haven't seen a continuation of the trend," he said, adding that groups of civilians were believed to be trapped in northern Fallujah neighbourhoods.

He said nonetheless that more than 2,600 new arrivals had been recorded in displacement camps on Monday, mostly civilians from the outskirts of the city.

Estimates for the number of IS fighters holed up in Fallujah vary from 1,000 to 2,500."


'ISIL fighters sneaking out of Fallujah with civilians' - News from Al Jazeera







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