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Is Trump undermining US democracy?

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Donald Trump spent much of his campaign breaking political norms. Depending on whom you ask, it's either one of his most endearing qualities or the greatest threat his candidacy poses.
Now, however, he's calling into question one of the foundations of US democracy - the legitimacy of its electoral process.

But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.
 

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Trump does have a flare for the dramatic. But there will be no blood bath.
 

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But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.

He also undermines common decency, civility, respect for others, personal control, and acts like the 9 year old psychotic childish little prick that he truly is - **** him.
 

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But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.

There's a difference between making a mockery and undermining. He's doing the former, and at times also pointing out examples of others doing the same. It's the democratic process that has put him where he is, unlike Hillary. So, no. He's just making a mockery of the process, not undermining it - that's what the DNC did with Bernie and Hillary.
 

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Trump is taking a page from the Islamic Terrorist Handbook: The US is corrupt and not really a democracy!!11!!

What's next, Truthin'?
 

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Is anyone gullible enough to believe that our election system isn't rigged?

Everybody knows.
 

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Oh, please. Undermining democracy... lol!
 

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He also undermines common decency, civility, respect for others, personal control, and acts like the 9 year old psychotic childish little prick that he truly is - **** him.

What you list is what he's undermined, not the democratic process since that's what's gotten where he is. His statement about the potential future is an example of what you list, rather than anything to do with the actual democratic process, but it is only potentially valid in the minds of people that don't know better because of what the Democrats were able to do to Bernie.

Basically, what I mean is - you nailed it, undermining democracy is not what he's actually doing, it's the things in your list that he's doing.
 

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But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.

Trump should play the Al Gore card and demand a recount of only a few districts where he won heavily in a swing state (or two). ;)
 

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No. I think he's highlighting the MSM's heavy hand in undermining and controlling US democracy.
 

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But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.
Isn't that kinda like saying he's gonna pull a Gore?
 

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heres the original interview with roger stone.

“I think we have widespread voter fraud, but the first thing that Trump needs to do is begin talking about it constantly,” Stone said. “He needs to say for example, today would be a perfect example: ‘I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud. If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.’”

“If you can’t have an honest election, nothing else counts,” he continued. “I think he’s gotta put them on notice that their inauguration will be a rhetorical, and when I mean civil disobedience, not violence, but it will be a bloodbath. The government will be shut down if they attempt to steal this and swear Hillary in. No, we will not stand for it. We will not stand for it.”

“So, I mean the dream here, the ultimate ideal is that he wins by such a significant margin nationally that this is unnecessary,” Yiannopoulos concluded. “But it’s interesting to hear you say this, and it’s funny also, because Trump will go there. He will go to the places other politicians wont, and he’s probably the only person to run for president within the last fifty years who would dare to do this, and might even get away with it. It’s remarkable isn’t it how he’s just sort of re-injected reality into politics”.
Roger Stone on The Milo Show: How Trump Can Fight Voter Fraud - Breitbart
 

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A bloodbath? How dramatic. How ominous.

It's like the moron is desperate for a death-dealing bloodbath of a riot - all over him.

What an arrogant piece of **** he is (with all due respect to POS here, who is a really good egg).
 

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It's like the moron is desperate for a death-dealing bloodbath of a riot - all over him.

What an arrogant piece of **** he is (with all due respect to POS here, who is a really good egg).

He definitely wants that. Nothing would make that arrogant fool happier than watching this country be torn apart by his devoted moonbats.
 

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It's like the moron is desperate for a death-dealing bloodbath of a riot - all over him.

What an arrogant piece of **** he is (with all due respect to POS here, who is a really good egg).

You liked it so much you posted it twice!

That's huuuuge.
 

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But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.
They are prepping for the loss, with the mantra's "We were Robbed" The election was rigged".
 

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But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.

In other words "we better win or we will tear the country apart."

I wonder how many Americans will be intimidated by this? A lot I suspect.
 

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Trump is taking a page from the Islamic Terrorist Handbook: The US is corrupt and not really a democracy!!11!!

What's next, Truthin'?
Islamists do not care for democracy and know nothing about it.
 

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Islamists do not care for democracy and know nothing about it.

They claim US democracy is a fraud, just like Trump. He's campaigning on ISIS talking points.
 

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They claim US democracy is a fraud, just like Trump. He's campaigning on ISIS talking points.

I would like to see a source with a quote before I believe that. They just want us dead.
 

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But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.

He hasn't questioned the legitimacy of the electoral process. He has questioned whether two parties with virtually unlimited control over the electoral process have undermined the democratic process.

There is a distinct possibility that the GOP will never recover from this fiasco and that the Democrats will be the only viable party left. Since their platform is essentially one of soft socialism that leads to the likelihood that Federalism will be replaced with Nationalism. When you combine Socialism with Nationalism you end up with the Soviet Union or Cuba.
 
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