Is this what republicans really believe? (1 Viewer)

[saggyjones]

I'd like to know if any republicans out there think the same way as Topsez. Here are some quotes of his from this page: http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/15522-will-democrats-take-credit-victory-iraq-7.html

Communicating with girliemen is such a waste of time...

In your dreams, Mr. liberateamerica you metrosexual spineless American. I'm here to remind you that there is no we it is the repubs and on the other side are the terrorists and liberal metrosexuals.

Now you're sounding like an agressive dominate homo... Original is hard to come by but anti American and girlieman is one and the same... Women and men that think like women that would do anything rather than face the event are simply weak.

I would let the un human terrorist bob for catfish until they talk and if I found them speechless then they would be catfish food... you know how good catfish are? And they do feed on hit<s. Let's see, we have France, Germany, Russia, China and Canada looking on as terrorists cut off our good guys heads and we worry about our opinion because we only dress the terrorist up in girl clothes. What's the worst thing that could happen... our soldiers get dressed in girls underwear or get their heads chopped off? Screw the rest of the world.

Your position seems feminine, sorry but it sounds weak and girl-like... You are allowed your opinion and me mine and my opinion is anyone who isn't in support of the war is in support of the enemy.

We should coat all of our bullets in pig and Jew blood, feed the captured pigs only and bury uncooperative terrorists under pig guts.

They're [illegal Mexican immigrants] good enough to do slave lettuce picking so why not take up some slack at a union dock, bet they would do the syphering for less than $180,000.00?

I find these posts hilarious and sickening at the same time. If Topsez represents a majority of the republicans who respond to this, I swear I'm moving to Canada if we don't elect a democratic president.

 

[Southern Belle]

I'm a Republican (and a girl ) and I'm not as extreme as that... But I do think that sometimes liberals can be a bit weak and sissy-ish (in a Mike Stivic sort of way) when it comes to PC vs Security... I believe Security > PC in certain circumstances but in those same circumstances I've seen libs defend it to the death which makes me question their common sense...

You know the old saying "Devide and Conquer"? Well that's what's happening to us, we need to work together Dems and Repubs, get through this thing and then we can worry about hurt feelings when we are safer.

(Forgive the above paragraph I have been listening to Patriotic Country station on AOL Radio)

 

[jennyb]

weak and sissy-ish? why, because he was sensitive? and didnt believe in war? or at least the vietnam war. we got wacked in that war...50,000 dead...and for what?
Now we are in another stupid war which came about by lies...talk about smoke and mirrors.. . i dont believe this war has anything to do with patriotism...i love this country with all of my heart, and i am one hundred percent for the troops...and i think it is a shame that their blood is being spilled. i was behind bush sr. because when he was asked by kuwait to help him and that country was invaded, he asked our allies to help, and they did...
the men who started this 'war' were saudis...we cant go against the saudis...we are in bed with them..oil...and mr cheney is getting his way, and getting his wish, which he wanted years ago..splitting up iraq and getting their oil.
republicans are killing us out here...all they seem to know how to do is cut programs, cut programs, cut programs , by cutting taxes....
it pisses me off that haliburton is making millions and millions rebuilding iraq... but, i suppose since we broke it we must fix it....

the U S can use some rebuilding, where are these 'patrotic' companies when WE need them?

 

[Stinger]

Post about individual members should be prohibited.

 

[saggyjones]

Post about individual members should be prohibited.

Is it though?

And why not respond with something meaningful and answer if you share some of these beliefs? Your suggestion should be taken up with someone that has the power to make it prohibited, not with me.

 

[saggyjones]

weak and sissy-ish? why, because he was sensitive? and didnt believe in war?

That's what I don't understand about many, not all, republicans. They call people with different opinions from them weak and woman-like. I'd just like some clarification on what this means. What makes something sissy-ish? Society has imprinted on us that women are the weak ones who cook and clean, and men are the hunters who gather food and do the hard work. With the women's rights movement we were supposed to get past that, but a lot of republicans (and I'm sure some democrats) haven't moved on.

 

[tecoyah]

It would indeed be ...interesting, to see how I might react should a Neocon call me a sissy. Might be inclined to "express" my nature clearly.

 

[Southern Belle]

I'm sorry, I just hate Mike Stivic, for many many reasons, and HE was a sissy. When I saw the OP it reminded me of him, and his agravating wining and his arrogance and hypocrisy and always putting poor Archie down (Seriously I remember there being ONE episode where I agreed with Mike) I didn't always agree with Archie, but I know he tried, his heart was in the right place.

The stuff Mike did would always make me cringe... Especially on the subway where the guy threatened Gloria and out of reflex Mike hit him and he kept repeating over and over "I hit him.......I hit him.......I can't believe it....I HIT HIM! I don't believe in violece, but I hit him...oh I'm so ashamed!" THAT made him a sissy.

And thinking about what he would be saying about the Terrorists is not very apealing: "We DESERVED to be hit! They were just showing us how wrong we are, Arch!" I could so see that...

 

[saggyjones]

I'm sorry, I just hate Mike Stivic, for many many reasons, and HE was a sissy. When I saw the OP it reminded me of him, and his agravating wining and his arrogance and hypocrisy and always putting poor Archie down (Seriously I remember there being ONE episode where I agreed with Mike) I didn't always agree with Archie, but I know he tried, his heart was in the right place.

The stuff Mike did would always make me cringe... Especially on the subway where the guy threatened Gloria and out of reflex Mike hit him and he kept repeating over and over "I hit him.......I hit him.......I can't believe it....I HIT HIM! I don't believe in violece, but I hit him...oh I'm so ashamed!" THAT made him a sissy.

And thinking about what he would be saying about the Terrorists is not very apealing: "We DESERVED to be hit! They were just showing us how wrong we are, Arch!" I could so see that...

But he's not a real person, right? I thought he was from All in the Family.

 

[Southern Belle]

But he's not a real person, right? I thought he was from All in the Family.

Yep that's right. That show's what got me interested in politics so referencing it is fun. ^^ He's and extreme liberal and Archie is an extreme conservate. That's what we should try not to act like but some do it anyway, lol.

 

[saggyjones]

Yep that's right. That show's what got me interested in politics so referencing it is fun. ^^ He's and extreme liberal and Archie is an extreme conservate. That's what we should try not to act like but some do it anyway, lol.

Yeah sometimes it's hard not to think like the extremists on whatever side one is on. I haven't used the word "one" like that in a while but I think it fits there.

 

[Topsez]

Is Mona Charen an Archie Bunker or a clear speaking person about the weakness of the Democratic Party. Lots of reading here that will make your weak little stomach tight… check out the archives.

Mona Charen Archives

It was not so long ago — only four years — that a significant number of Democrats in the U.S. Congress evaluated the available evidence and voted to authorize war with Iraq. Eighty-one Democrats in the House, including a fair number of liberals like Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., Ed Markey, D-Mass., and Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., endorsed a "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq."

It's instructive to glance at that document now — particularly since so many Democrats are adopting the pose of Poor Misled Legislators. Here is some of what those Democrats signed on to:
"Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary. . .

"Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq . . .

"Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people . . .

"Whereas members of Al Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq . . . "

The resolution is exhaustive, listing all of Iraq's sins, and also all of the legal, moral and strategic arguments for military action.

No one forced those 81 Democrats to support the resolution. But since they chose to do so, one would expect that before utterly contradicting themselves, they would at least offer some explanation beyond the pathetic cry that they were duped. Last week, 29 Democrats who voted in favor of authorizing force in Iraq voted to set a timetable for withdrawal. As the Monty Python knights proclaim in the face of French taunting in "Spamalot," "Run Away! Run Away! It seems like a helpful solution."

 

[doughgirl]

Saggyjones said, “I find these posts hilarious and sickening at the same time. If Topsez represents a majority of the republicans who respond to this, I swear I'm moving to Canada if we don't elect a democratic president.”

Boy to start a whole thread on someone you hate……….MUST BE LOVE. Its love isnt it? :rofl


Move to the Toronto area…….its nice.

SouthernBelle said, “You know the old saying "Devide and Conquer"? Well that's what's happening to us, we need to work together Democrats and Repubs, get through this thing and then we can worry about hurt feelings when we are safer.”

It will be a cold day in hell before that happens. The two sides HATE each other. And realistically they are on opposite sides of every big issue. These sides are out to destroy each other.
We need a third party……..

Jenny said, “i love this country with all of my heart, and i am one hundred percent for the troops...and i think it is a shame that their blood is being spilled. i was behind bush sr. because when he was asked by kuwait to help him and that country was invaded, he asked our allies to help, and they did…”

If you asked the majority of the troops, they believe in what they are doing. They willingly signed up for the military, they were not drafted and knew what they were getting into. You can't say you support the troops if you think their cause is wrong.

“republicans are killing us out here...all they seem to know how to do is cut programs, cut programs, cut programs , by cutting taxes....
it pisses me off that haliburton is making millions and millions rebuilding iraq... but, i suppose since we broke it we must fix it.... “

What???????? Did Republicans carry out 9-11? The terrorists are killing us and will continue to kill us unless someone stands up to the plate and has the balls to do something about it. Democrats can't and don’t want to do this. They see no war on terror. They want to patch thing up and let them continue to invade our country. They don’t give a crap about our national security. And you will see this in years to come if they win the next presidency. You will see more 9-11’s.

“the U S can use some rebuilding, where are these 'patrotic' companies when WE need them?”

I agree……throw out the two parties and start over.


What does “patriotic” mean to you?

Hiding your head in the sand and pretending theres no enemy? That's the Democrats goal. Be politically correct first……everyone is your friend include the few terrorists around the country, their problems we created anyway so we really are responsible and owe them something. Make all nations of the world your best friend and be sure to ask their permission first before making any decisions or changes in America. Raise taxes so that we can create more social programs, so hard working Americans will not only have to foot the bill for all those that dont want to work, but support the world and all the illegal aliens the Democrats want to come into the country.

Oops all except Hollywood, they can keep their money so they can go around the world being such moral and upstanding spokespeople for the Democrats so called causes……and so they can get more photo ops to boost their sell-ability. Isn't adoption grand?



The Democrats are in bed with Hollywood………literally.
Hey some money is ok.......especially if your Teddy Kennedy or John Kerry or.....or.....
Hey Lincoln Bedroom........here they come. :rofl

 

[saggyjones]

Boy to start a whole thread on someone you hate……….MUST BE LOVE. Its love isnt it? :rofl

Good one. OK, yes, it is love. I hoped that made you puke since republicans seem to hate gays so much (not all republicans).

Move to the Toronto area…….its nice.

I'll check it out.[/QUOTE]

It will be a cold day in hell before that happens. The two sides HATE each other. And realistically they are on opposite sides of every big issue. These sides are out to destroy each other.
We need a third party……..

Socialist International! Yeah, that'll be the day. What do you expect, democrats and republicans to agree? That's the the parties were founded on, differences in opinion.

Would the third party be made up of moderates or what?

If you asked the majority of the troops, they believe in what they are doing. They willingly signed up for the military, they were not drafted and knew what they were getting into. You can't say you support the troops if you think their cause is wrong.

I don't think so.

An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and more than one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.

Zogby International

I support bringing them home and keeping them alive.

What???????? Did Republicans carry out 9-11? The terrorists are killing us and will continue to kill us unless someone stands up to the plate and has the balls to do something about it. Democrats can't and don’t want to do this. They see no war on terror. They want to patch thing up and let them continue to invade our country. They don’t give a crap about our national security. And you will see this in years to come if they win the next presidency. You will see more 9-11’s.

What does Iraq have to do with 9/11? Al-Qaeda was responsible for 9/11; we went to Iraq for other reasons, like oil and the WMDs that weren't there. There was no connection between Al-Qaeda and Saddam.

US President George Bush has said there is no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks.

BBC NEWS | Americas | Bush rejects Saddam 9/11 link

I agree……throw out the two parties and start over.

Yeah, good idea, and why not rewrite the Constitution while we're at it? Who do you suggest makes decisions in this no party system of democracy? Unless you mean rebuilding the parties, in which case everyone would go to the same sides as they were on before.

What does “patriotic” mean to you?

Patriotic to me means voting. If you vote, you are taking part in the system of this country, and that in my opinion is being patriotic. People who don't vote don't really care what happens in the elections, and that is a big waste.

If patriotism is supporting our country no matter what happens, like many people have presented it to me, then I'm definitely not patriotic.

Hiding your head in the sand and pretending theres no enemy? That's the Democrats goal.

Actually that's not the Democrats' goal. Their goal is to stop spending so much money on the war (a total of about $346,791,000,000 right now, http://www.costofwar.com), and to end the death of American soldiers and Iraqi citizens. Who said anything about pretending there's no enemy? And can you tell me what we're accomplishing in Iraq right now?

Be politically correct first……everyone is your friend include the few terrorists around the country, their problems we created anyway so we really are responsible and owe them something.

Why do conservatives say that democrats and terrorists are on the same side? We are obviously not, what a ridiculous thing to say.

Make all nations of the world your best friend and be sure to ask their permission first before making any decisions or changes in America.

What other countries have we gotten permission from to make decisions in America? Now you're just making up things and backing them with no evidence.

Raise taxes so that we can create more social programs, so hard working Americans will not only have to foot the bill for all those that dont want to work

It's to support those who can't work. I think most people, democrat or republican, would agree that people who can work and don't choose to shouldn't get government support, but many people can't get jobs very easily, so they need at least temporary support. I think unemployment should be limited to 6 months at a time to prevent people from living off it.

Many social programs are effective and beneficial, but Bush has been cutting a lot of them.

President Bush plans to unveil a $2.5 trillion budget today eliminating dozens of politically sensitive domestic programs, including funding for education, environmental protection and business development, while proposing significant increases for the military and international spending, according to White House documents.
/wp-dyn/articles/A3319-2005Feb6.html

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

but support the world and all the illegal aliens the Democrats want to come into the country.

I beg to differ.

Support for Immigration Enforcement was a Key Factor in Many Democratic Victories

In countless races across the country, Democrats pointed to Congress’ failure to control illegal immigration.

Federation for American Immigration Reform: Welcome to FAIR

Oops all except Hollywood, they can keep their money so they can go around the world being such moral and upstanding spokespeople for the Democrats so called causes……and so they can get more photo ops to boost their sell-ability. Isn't adoption grand?

Is this what you're resorting to? And the republicans are the ones giving tax cuts to the rich.

The Democrats are in bed with Hollywood………literally.
Hey some money is ok.......especially if your Teddy Kennedy or John Kerry or.....or.....
Hey Lincoln Bedroom........here they come. :rofl

It's better than being in bed with congressional pages...

 

[Navy Pride]

weak and sissy-ish? why, because he was sensitive? and didnt believe in war? or at least the vietnam war. we got wacked in that war...50,000 dead...and for what?
Now we are in another stupid war which came about by lies...talk about smoke and mirrors.. . i dont believe this war has anything to do with patriotism...i love this country with all of my heart, and i am one hundred percent for the troops...and i think it is a shame that their blood is being spilled. i was behind bush sr. because when he was asked by kuwait to help him and that country was invaded, he asked our allies to help, and they did...
the men who started this 'war' were saudis...we cant go against the saudis...we are in bed with them..oil...and mr cheney is getting his way, and getting his wish, which he wanted years ago..splitting up iraq and getting their oil.
republicans are killing us out here...all they seem to know how to do is cut programs, cut programs, cut programs , by cutting taxes....
it pisses me off that haliburton is making millions and millions rebuilding iraq... but, i suppose since we broke it we must fix it....

the U S can use some rebuilding, where are these 'patrotic' companies when WE need them?

You have no clue...........Did you know we never lost a battle in Nam? The only thing that whacked us was liberals like you who lost the stomach to win and convinced this country to cut and run.......Because of people that think like you 58,000 Americans (6 personal friends of mine) and millions of Vietnamese and Cambodians died for nothing......

We will not make the same mistake in Iraq no matter how cowards like John Kerry and Jane Fonda (2 heroes to the NVN) whine..........You can take that to the bank..............

 

[Navy Pride]

Post about individual members should be prohibited.

They are............

 

[doughgirl]

“Would the third party be made up of moderates or what?”

Anything would be an improvement wouldn’t it?

“What does Iraq have to do with 9/11? Al-Qaeda was responsible for 9/11; we went to Iraq for other reasons, like oil and the WMDs that weren't there. There was no connection between Al-Qaeda and Saddam.”

Radical Muslims caused 9-11. You like Sadam do ya? Are you one of those liberals who side with him and think he got a bum rap?

“Yeah, good idea, and why not rewrite the Constitution while we're at it? Who do you suggest makes decisions in this no party system of democracy? Unless you mean rebuilding the parties, in which case everyone would go to the same sides as they were on before.”

Hon its already been rewritten by the Supreme Court. Liberal humanists have worked real hard to tear it to bits.
There is no separation of church and state clause, yet the libs insist its there somewhere…..libs say there is no reference to the Lord…….but its there. Libs say it supports abortion…….where does it say kill a living human being…….
And you cant imagine how many liberals on this board think the 2nd amendment should be thrown out the window.

“Their goal is to stop spending so much money on the war (a total of about $346,791,000,000 right now, http://www.costofwar.com), and to end the death of American soldiers and Iraqi citizens. Who said anything about pretending there's no enemy? And can you tell me what we're accomplishing in Iraq right now?”

Yes, they would like to eliminate the military altogether. Democrats always reduce the military. God forbid if we were ever attacked on our soil and they were in control. They want more social programs. They like to reward those people who sit back in society and do nothing to contribute to it.

“Why do conservatives say that democrats and terrorists are on the same side? We are obviously not, what a ridiculous thing to say.”

Well they are closer to them than Republicans are. Democrats think we owe the terrorists something because we were the cause of all their troubles to begin with. In fact the Democrats think we are the cause of all the worlds problems, and because of this…..the America citizen should work to support the entire worlds population.

“What other countries have we gotten permission from to make decisions in America? Now you're just making up things and backing them with no evidence.”

Democrats want a one world government, one world religion, one world everything.
Bush didn’t give a rats…arse what anyone thought (I admire that)…….Had
a Democrat been in office they would have traveled around the globe taking polls of how everyone felt. And if the world had said don’t do something, they wouldn’t have. Democrats don’t think of American citizens first.

“It's to support those who can't work. I think most people, democrat or republican, would agree that people who can work and don't choose to shouldn't get government support, but many people can't get jobs very easily, so they need at least temporary support. I think unemployment should be limited to 6 months at a time to prevent people from living off it.”

How many people who aren’t working could work? Democrats don’t care.

“Is this what you're resorting to? And the republicans are the ones giving tax cuts to the rich.”

Then the democrats should be thanking him every day. :rofl

 

[saggyjones]

You have no clue...........Did you know we never lost a battle in Nam? The only thing that whacked us was liberals like you who lost the stomach to win and convinced this country to cut and run.......Because of people that think like you 58,000 Americans (6 personal friends of mine) and millions of Vietnamese and Cambodians died for nothing......

We will not make the same mistake in Iraq no matter how cowards like John Kerry and Jane Fonda (2 heroes to the NVN) whine..........You can take that to the bank..............[/QUOTE]

All you can do is repeat buzzwords like "cut and run" and compare to Vietnam. Can you tell me what we gained from that war? And we never lost a major battle but it wasn't like WWII where there were set battles, like most wars. In Vietnam there were mostly search and destroy missions. We killed a lot of Vietnamese citizens (I can't find a number because there's not many sources on it) but in your eyes their lives don't matter as much as the spread of your personal beliefs.

Anyway, how can you compare the situation in Vietnam to the one in Iraq? They are completely different.

 

[saggyjones]

Anything would be an improvement wouldn’t it?

I don't think fascism or communism would be an improvement...
But a third party of moderates wouldn't be so bad, we could compromise maybe.

Radical Muslims caused 9-11. You like Sadam do ya? Are you one of those liberals who side with him and think he got a bum rap?

So you group all radical Muslims together? What if you grouped all radical Christians together? That would mean Nazis, Evangelists, and extreme Catholics are the same.

That's what conservatives do when they can't answer a question, they group democrats with terrorists and Saddam. It's the only way you can convince yourself you won. Shame.

Hon its already been rewritten by the Supreme Court. Liberal humanists have worked real hard to tear it to bits.
There is no separation of church and state clause, yet the libs insist its there somewhere…..libs say there is no reference to the Lord…….but its there. Libs say it supports abortion…….where does it say kill a living human being…….
And you cant imagine how many liberals on this board think the 2nd amendment should be thrown out the window.

The phrase "separation of church and state isn't in the Constitution, but neither are the phrases "right to privacy" or "right to a fair trial." It's still interpreted that way by the Supreme Court, though.

"When the government puts its imprimatur on a particular religion it conveys a message of exclusion to all those who do not adhere to the favored beliefs. A government cannot be premised on the belief that all persons are created equal when it asserts that God prefers some." Supreme Court Justice Harry A. Blackmun in the Lee v. Weisman ruling, 1992."

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN THE U.S.

Can you quote to where it references to God?

And abortion is a whole other issue that I don't want to get into on this thread, but I'd be happy to on the abortion board.

Yes, they would like to eliminate the military altogether. Democrats always reduce the military. God forbid if we were ever attacked on our soil and they were in control. They want more social programs. They like to reward those people who sit back in society and do nothing to contribute to it.

Can you give me a quote about dems wanting to eliminate the military? I've never heard that one. And if we bring the troops home there will be more here to defend us in your hypothetical attack.

Yes, dems do want more social programs, because we actually care about people who don't have much money.

I'll address the rewarding lazy people part below.

I ask you again, can you tell me what we're accomplishing in Iraq right now?

Well they are closer to them than Republicans are. Democrats think we owe the terrorists something because we were the cause of all their troubles to begin with. In fact the Democrats think we are the cause of all the worlds problems, and because of this…..the America citizen should work to support the entire worlds population.

Yeah and reps are closer to Nazis than democrats. Just because you're closer to something doesn't mean you're affiliated.

Democrats think we owe the people of Iraq something, not the terrorists. Oh, I forgot, you call all Muslims terrorists.

You take things way too far away from their meaning. When has a democrat said they want to support the entire world's population?

Democrats want a one world government, one world religion, one world everything.

No, socialists want that. There are actually different categories of liberals.

Bush didn’t give a rats…arse what anyone thought (I admire that)…….Had
a Democrat been in office they would have traveled around the globe taking polls of how everyone felt. And if the world had said don’t do something, they wouldn’t have. Democrats don’t think of American citizens first.

Do you have any proof for this? I'm not even talking about a quote, I mean a point. You're just making assumptions of what a democrat would do.

How many people who aren’t working could work? Democrats don’t care.

Did you even read my post? Do you take my opinion into consideration at all, or do you just forget whatever I said and keep repeating the same stuff? I'll post what I said again so you can reread it:

It's to support those who can't work. I think most people, democrat or republican, would agree that people who can work and don't choose to shouldn't get government support, but many people can't get jobs very easily, so they need at least temporary support. I think unemployment should be limited to 6 months at a time to prevent people from living off it.

Then the democrats should be thanking him every day. :rofl

What? Who's him? Sorry but I'm not following this part.

 

[Navy Pride]

We will not make the same mistake in Iraq no matter how cowards like John Kerry and Jane Fonda (2 heroes to the NVN) whine..........You can take that to the bank..............

All you can do is repeat buzzwords like "cut and run" and compare to Vietnam. Can you tell me what we gained from that war? And we never lost a major battle but it wasn't like WWII where there were set battles, like most wars. In Vietnam there were mostly search and destroy missions. We killed a lot of Vietnamese citizens (I can't find a number because there's not many sources on it) but in your eyes their lives don't matter as much as the spread of your personal beliefs.

Anyway, how can you compare the situation in Vietnam to the one in Iraq? They are completely different.[/QUOTE]

Man have you never heard of the Tet offensive.....You need to bone up on your history and like I said the only reason we lost there was becasue of people like you.........

I can help you find totals of Vietnames and Cambodians Killed after we "Cut and Run" Just google on it.........It was millions.........

I only compared it because the person I was responding to brought it up.......

 

[saggyjones]

Man have you never heard of the Tet offensive.....You need to bone up on your history and like I said the only reason we lost there was becasue of people like you.........

So we did lose a major battle, and you lied earlier. I was taking your word for it, but I won't do that again. Why don't you explain why people like me were the only reason we lost there? I bet you can't do it without using the words "terrorist" or "cut and run". And while you're at it, can you explain what we accomplished in Vietnam?

I can help you find totals of Vietnames and Cambodians Killed after we "Cut and Run" Just google on it.........It was millions.........

You know another word for cut and run is retreating, and that's a vital part of strategy and has been used many times throughout history.

~2,000,000 to ~4,000,000 Vietnamese citizens were killed in the Vietnam war, and ~3,000,000 were affected by agent orange. (Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

I only compared it because the person I was responding to brought it up.......

I didn't realize that, so you weren't bringing it up, sorry.

 

[doughgirl]

“It's to support those who can't work. I think most people, democrat or republican, would agree that people who can work and don't choose to shouldn't get government support, but many people can't get jobs very easily, so they need at least temporary support. I think unemployment should be limited to 6 months at a time to prevent people from living off it.”

People like the disabled, handicapped, sick, terminally ill……..should receive benefits……

Boy we sure have a lot in those categories in America don’t we?

Most people are lazy and want the big bucks.......so they sit home and take their government checks until they find a job that pays what they were making or more.

 

[saggyjones]

People like the disabled, handicapped, sick, terminally ill……..should receive benefits……

So you do believe in welfare/unemployment?

Boy we sure have a lot in those categories in America don’t we?

Yeah we do. I searched on google and came up with these stats:

Twelve percent of Americans aged 25 to 64 have some type of disability, and 64 percent of that group have one serious enough to require assistance with daily activities like walking, bathing, shopping, or using the telephone, according to the Census Bureau's March 1996 Current Population Survey.

Almost three in ten 25-to-64-year-olds with a disability are working, 18 percent of them full time.

Disabled and working - Census Bureau's March 1996 Current Population Survey giving statistics on disabled adults American Demographics - Find Articles

Most people are lazy and want the big bucks.......so they sit home and take their government checks until they find a job that pays what they were making or more.

That's why I think we should have a different welfare program for disabled people (physically or mentally handicapped). People who just can't get jobs should be limited to 6 months of unemployment.

 

[saggyjones]

I meant to edit my post but it was running slow and now it won't let me...

Well I was going to add at the beginning of my latest post "I noticed you only answered one of my questions doughgirl, what happened to the rest?"

 

[Donkey1499]

I'm sorry, I just hate Mike Stivic, for many many reasons, and HE was a sissy. When I saw the OP it reminded me of him, and his agravating wining and his arrogance and hypocrisy and always putting poor Archie down (Seriously I remember there being ONE episode where I agreed with Mike) I didn't always agree with Archie, but I know he tried, his heart was in the right place.

The stuff Mike did would always make me cringe... Especially on the subway where the guy threatened Gloria and out of reflex Mike hit him and he kept repeating over and over "I hit him.......I hit him.......I can't believe it....I HIT HIM! I don't believe in violece, but I hit him...oh I'm so ashamed!" THAT made him a sissy.

And thinking about what he would be saying about the Terrorists is not very apealing: "We DESERVED to be hit! They were just showing us how wrong we are, Arch!" I could so see that...

:rofl I love that show....

Mike went to college to become smart, instead he became an idiot, indoctrinated by his imbecile professors. The one's who shouldn't be allowed to indoctrinate/teach our children. Trust me, I know this, for I too have almost fallen victim to the public Scrool System (mixture of screw and school; listen to Limbaugh to figure it out), I stood firm with a stiff upper lip and did not give in to the liberal ideaology. I claim victory over my leftist "teachers"... muwahahahahahaaaaa!!!!