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Is This The Russian Retaliation?

Is a rail road bridge attacked by Ukrainian nationalists on the moment the trail with civilian commuters was crossing it a MILITARY TARGET ?
Even Western media has mentioned this terrorist attack by Ukraine !!
Were the people on the train Russians?
 
Or, is it a Russian head fake and the REAL retaliation is yet to come?





I don't know, but one thing is clear: Don't poke the Bear!!

Its better to shoot the bear.
 
Russia must be made to pay for what they did to Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Barbarians!
Your Russian post is confused which is nothing new of course.

The International Criminal Court in The Hague has an international arrest warrant active against Vladimir Putin the president of the Russian Federation for his war crimes in Ukraine that continue unabated and ever intensified.

Since 2022 and Putin's barbarian invasion of Ukraine Japan has ceased inviting any official of the Russian government to Japan's annual observances of the World War II bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Governments around the world have asked Japan not to invite Russia due to the Kremlin's constant nuclear talk against the Ukrainians, the Europeans and against the world since Putin's bungling and barbarian war in Ukraine.

Your Russian posts defend, advocate and promote Putin's World War II redux in Ukraine against Ukraine and against democracy and human rights everywhere. Putin's war has gone badly from their start of it so the Kremlin keeps talking nuclear. Russia is the world's #1 nuclear menace of the 21st century along with its pal North Korea.
 
Putin bitches about "terrorism" when Ukraine strikes military aircraft but then continues to do this.

It would be pants-shittingly hilarious if it weren't so stupid.
Ukraine is hardly innocent.

Evidence of Ukrainian War Crimes in Donbass

The data that has been accumulated since the first report by the Foundation for Democracy Studies provides ground to conclude that torture and inhumane treatment inflicted by the Security Forces of Ukraine (SBU), by the Ukrainian armed forces, the National Guard and other formations within the Interior Ministry of Ukraine have not only continued but are gaining in scale and are becoming systematic. The prisoners were electrocuted, beaten cruelly and for multiple days in a row with different objects (iron bars, baseball bats, sticks, rifle butts, bayonet knives, rubber batons).

Techniques widely used by the Ukrainian armed forces and security forces include waterboarding, strangling with a ‘Banderist garrotte’ and other types of strangling. In some cases prisoners, for the purposes of intimidation, were sent to minefields and run over with military vehicles, which led to their death. Other torture methods used by the Ukrainian armed forces and security forces include bonecrashing, stabbing and cutting with a knife, branding with red-hot objects, shooting different body parts with small arms.

The prisoners taken captive by the Ukrainian armed forces and security forces are kept for days at freezing temperatures, with no access to food or medical assistance, and are often forced to take psychotropic substances that cause agony. An absolute majority of prisoners are put through mock firing squads and suffer death and rape threats to their families.

 
Please try to contain your excitement about the prospect of civilians being killed as retaliation for attacks on the military targets of an aggressor.
How many civilians did our bombers kill during WW2?

Was about 600.000 just in Germany alone, wasn't it?
 
How many civilians did our bombers kill during WW2?

Was about 600.000 just in Germany alone, wasn't it?

Total war had been happening since 1939.

Do Russian bombings in Ukraine make US and allied bombings ok?

No.

How would US and allied bombings in WWII make Russian bombings in Ukraine ok now?

They don't.
 
How many civilians did our bombers kill during WW2?

Was about 600.000 just in Germany alone, wasn't it?
Standards and practices are different since.

The faux pas of your post is to apply the standards and practices of the Present to those of the Past. This is because -- and in the instance of WW II in particular -- the laws of war have been vastly developed and encompassing since then.

Your faux pas historiography is called "Presentism," which is to misapply time, place, circumstance and different values, practices and laws of the present to the past. Presentism is not a viable approach to history which is about the past.
 
Standards and practices are different since.

The faux pas of your post is to apply the standards and practices of the Present to those of the Past. This is because -- and in the instance of WW II in particular -- the laws of war have been vastly developed and encompassing since then.

Your faux pas historiography is called "Presentism," which is to misapply time, place, circumstance and different values, practices and laws of the present to the past. Presentism is not a viable approach to history which is about the past.
How have standards and practices changed when humans are still doing the same thing?

People killed civilians then and they do it now.

Doesn't look like a difference to me.

The human race has not become enlightened in the last 80 years, in fact, many think it's gotten worse.
 
Total war had been happening since 1939.

Do Russian bombings in Ukraine make US and allied bombings ok?

No.

How would US and allied bombings in WWII make Russian bombings in Ukraine ok now?

They don't.
Of course not but the problem is condemning one while not condemning the other.
 
Or, is it a Russian head fake and the REAL retaliation is yet to come?





I don't know, but one thing is clear: Don't poke the Bear!!

Trump will end the war after he's elected, before he's in office. Or he'll end it on day one. Or maybe he'll just listen to Putin threaten retaliation, nod along, and try to strike a deal regarding Iran nuclear weapons capability.

Which one did you fall for?
 
Of course not but the problem is condemning one while not condemning the other.

When did I hesitate to condenmn the US? Dresden is the most horrid example. But that's not the topic of this thread. There's a Academia>History sub forum on DP here.

Saying that we're hypocritical means that we might condenn both the US and Putin, and somehow the accusation of hypocrisy is a defense of what you and I both condenn?
 
How have standards and practices changed when humans are still doing the same thing?

The Geneva Conventions and the Law of Armed Comnflict (LOAC) were developed as a result of WWII.

Putin and Netanyahu are both wanted for war crimes.
 
Were the apartment buildings in Kyiv full of civilians?

The difference is the Ukrainian ones matter.
Your next round of Whataboutism doesn't cancel Ukrainian WAR CRIMES.
You are pretending that the lives of your slaves and stooges matter more for you but this is a falsehood.
Ukraine and Ukrainians are just a tool for the West. A tool for destruction of Russia. Western "civilized" bosses equally despise Russians and Ukrainians.
All slavic nations are actually nothing but a dirt under Western "civilized" boots.
 
Your next round of Whataboutism doesn't cancel Ukrainian WAR CRIMES.
They are war whoops. It's a like a war crime, but nobody cares.
You are pretending that the lives of your slaves and stooges matter more for you but this is a falsehood.
Ukraine and Ukrainians are just a tool for the West. A tool for destruction of Russia. Western "civilized" bosses equally despise Russians and Ukrainians.
All slavic nations are actually nothing but a dirt under Western "civilized" boots.
No, just Russia. Because Russia can't act right.
 
Excitement? Hardly.

Sadness, disappointment, wishing both leaders would think about their own citizens.

But no...not excitement.

I guess that first tweet with Russian flags and exclamation points didn't exactly convey disappointment to me.

I believe most people want this war to end – unfortunately the chasm between the sides regarding any agreement seems as wide as it has for years.
 
I guess that first tweet with Russian flags and exclamation points didn't exactly convey disappointment to me.
That wasn't my tweet.

I believe most people want this war to end – unfortunately the chasm between the sides regarding any agreement seems as wide as it has for years.
Yes.
 
Quite possible





Kyiv is fighting to subjugate Donbass and Crimea







Russia is fighting to free Donbass and Crimea
Bullshit. Russia offered peace if it could keep those territories as part of Russia. It didn't offer to let them be independent.
Your next round of Whataboutism doesn't cancel Ukrainian WAR CRIMES.
You are pretending that the lives of your slaves and stooges matter more for you but this is a falsehood.
Ukraine and Ukrainians are just a tool for the West. A tool for destruction of Russia. Western "civilized" bosses equally despise Russians and Ukrainians.
All slavic nations are actually nothing but a dirt under Western "civilized" boots.

Remind how the West/NATO were going to destroy Russia if it didn't attack Ukraine?
 
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