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Technical debacle in reporting vote clouds future of Iowa caucuses

The Democratic Party’s Iowa caucuses, which were expected to begin to bring clarity to a crowded field, turned into an embarrassing fiasco when a new smartphone app meant to speed the reporting of results crashed early in the evening. The debacle raised questions about the future of Iowa’s complicated, idiosyncratic caucus system.
Seems awful suspicious especially in light of the fact that the Democratic Party has reportedly been in a panic over Sander's likely win. In any case I'm just curious as to how our Democratic friends see this. Is it just a hiccup or a sign that the Party might implode?
 

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I would suggest that there is the very distinct probability that Trump, in coordination with Russia, hacked the Democrat's voting app and likely inserted subversives in the caucuses with the express intention of sowing discord. Every single sign in Iowa points to EXACTLY the type of election interference Schiff so compellingly and brilliantly explained over the past several months and what the Democrats in DC so heroically impeached him for. I mean, why else would this happen on the very eve of the State of the Union address?

The signs are clear as can be and there is literally no other explanation than that Trump personally organized this for his own personal benefit.
 

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Democrats need to be prepared for a whole lot of criticism and mockery today.

Trump's campaign manager was accidentally correct even with the exaggeration... Democrats in Iowa with the DNC looking in have created a massive quagmire entirely of their own doing with absolutely no interest whatsoever in reasonable process, fairness, or even accountability.

We have every reason to label the entire effort as suspect and the question all the results.

I was right last night in another thread, this is a **** show of the highest order.
 

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I would suggest that there is the very distinct probability that Trump, in coordination with Russia, hacked the Democrat's voting app and likely inserted subversives in the caucuses with the express intention of sowing discord. Every single sign in Iowa points to EXACTLY the type of election interference Schiff so compellingly and brilliantly explained over the past several months and what the Democrats in DC so heroically impeached him for. I mean, why else would this happen on the very eve of the State of the Union address?

The signs are clear as can be and there is literally no other explanation than that Trump personally organized this for his own personal benefit.
It would be something if someone like Schiff said the same. Still have another day left to vote for impeachment.
 

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I'm tired of early states having a more influential vote than the rest of the country. National primary day would be a good evolution of a flawed process.
 

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I'm tired of early states having a more influential vote than the rest of the country. National primary day would be a good evolution of a flawed process.
I admit I don't know how this caucus thing works. Do you think it should be abolished?
 

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I admit I don't know how this caucus thing works. Do you think it should be abolished?
It'd wildly undemocratic, so opaque that trying to inject transparency into it has completely broken it, and this particular one is unrepresentative of the nation and the party.

Let's hope this debacle kills it for good.
 

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Isn't all that hard to believe -- The Democratic party is all ****ed up...
 

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I admit I don't know how this caucus thing works. Do you think it should be abolished?
They can do whatever convoluted bassackwards folksy **** they want, but they need to do it on the same day as everyone else. I'm sick of it.
 

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They can do whatever convoluted bassackwards folksy **** they want, but they need to do it on the same day as everyone else. I'm sick of it.
I imagine if this thing doesn't go well for Bernie a lot of his supporters will echo your sentiment. Could they riot?
 

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Technical debacle in reporting vote clouds future of Iowa caucuses



Seems awful suspicious especially in light of the fact that the Democratic Party has reportedly been in a panic over Sander's likely win. In any case I'm just curious as to how our Democratic friends see this. Is it just a hiccup or a sign that the Party might implode?
There is a reason this whole Iowa **** show is happening.

From the DNC Club’s perspective there were three strategic needs surrounding the Iowa caucuses: (1) Hide the collapse of Joe Biden; (2) Diminish the win by Bernie Sanders; and (3) cover-up a less than enthusiastic voter turnout. Given the nature of very public primary races, this three-pronged challenge seemed almost impossible.

Almost.

If everything just seemed to collapse, go wrong, and become a mess; and if the end of the night outcomes could be delayed and undetermined; well, in that scenario the objective would be considered ‘mission accomplished‘ on all three points.

That exact scenario just coincidentally happened.

Mission Accomplished – Chaos in Iowa Caucuses Helps and Hurts All The Right Candidates… | The Last Refuge
 

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Technical debacle in reporting vote clouds future of Iowa caucuses



Seems awful suspicious especially in light of the fact that the Democratic Party has reportedly been in a panic over Sander's likely win. In any case I'm just curious as to how our Democratic friends see this. Is it just a hiccup or a sign that the Party might implode?
Just more interference in the election results brought to us by the Democrat-Socialists. They live by this rule: It's not who casts the votes; it's who COUNTS the votes.

This gang of lying butt holes hasn't said an honest word or made a legit promise in 50 years.

Every election cycle, they run on the same book of tired promises and never, ever deliver on the promises.

How long can they promise to correct the same problems until somebody, anybody, starts to notice that all they EVER do is talk.

When will their terrorized loyalists EVER start to question the lack of results? What is causing the disconnect between the promises made, repeatedly made, and the results that just NEVER seem to get delivered?

At some point the folks who give their votes and get nada from the lying butt holes have to see that the practice of electing the lying butt holes is simply wasting their vote.

When will this ever happen? It seems like at some point, the connection has to be made.
 

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I imagine if this thing doesn't go well for Bernie a lot of his supporters will echo your sentiment. Could they riot?
I'd bet significant money against that.
 

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Just more interference in the election results brought to us by the Democrat-Socialists. They live by this rule: It's not who casts the votes; it's who COUNTS the votes.

This gang of lying butt holes hasn't said an honest word or made a legit promise in 50 years.

Every election cycle, they run on the same book of tired promises and never, ever deliver on the promises.

How long can they promise to correct the same problems until somebody, anybody, starts to notice that all they EVER do is talk.

When will their terrorized loyalists EVER start to question the lack of results? What is causing the disconnect between the promises made, repeatedly made, and the results that just NEVER seem to get delivered?

At some point the folks who give their votes and get nada from the lying butt holes have to see the waste of their votes on the lying butt holes.

When will this ever happen? It seems like at some point, the connection has to be made.
Maybe the orange fool should learn a couple more superlatives so that he can bleat about it tonight. I'm sure that his cult will lap it up like pigs at the trough. It will be outstanding, amazing, and incredible.
 

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I'd bet significant money against that.
You might win that bet but I vaguely recall seeing a video of a Sander's supporter alluding to riots in the streets should Bernie get robbed again.
 

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Just more interference in the election results brought to us by the Democrat-Socialists. They live by this rule: It's not who casts the votes; it's who COUNTS the votes.

This gang of lying butt holes hasn't said an honest word or made a legit promise in 50 years.

Every election cycle, they run on the same book of tired promises and never, ever deliver on the promises.

How long can they promise to correct the same problems until somebody, anybody, starts to notice that all they EVER do is talk.

When will their terrorized loyalists EVER start to question the lack of results? What is causing the disconnect between the promises made, repeatedly made, and the results that just NEVER seem to get delivered?

At some point the folks who give their votes and get nada from the lying butt holes have to see that the practice of electing the lying butt holes is simply wasting their vote.

When will this ever happen? It seems like at some point, the connection has to be made.
And the descent begins.
 

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You might win that bet but I vaguely recall seeing a video of a Sander's supporter alluding to riots in the streets should Bernie get robbed again.
And I saw a Tweety cultist a couple years ago trying to do violent **** in a station wagon covered in fox sticker vomit. There are nutters everywhere.
 

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Establishment needs more time to fix the results for Biden, I mean Russian interference RUSSIANS!!!!!
 

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And I saw a Tweety cultist a couple years ago trying to do violent **** in a station wagon covered in fox sticker vomit. There are nutters everywhere.
So true. Just a matter of numbers.
 

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