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Is this racist?

Does racism occur in this video?


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I posted this video on another thread, but I think it deserves its own discussion.

This is a direct, yes-or-no question: Does racism occur in this video?

 

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I posted this video on another thread, but I think it deserves its own discussion.

This is a direct, yes-or-no question: Does racism occur in this video?

Its hard to say. The first guy almost had the cops called on him by the pastor, but he may have not wanted to upset his kids on their family outing. Maybe the guy who confronted the black male would have done the same to the white male. Maybe the guy who decided not to confront the white male wouldn't have done so to the black male.

Either way, this isn't exactly a variable controlled exercise.
 

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some people claim there is no racism

but l see it still exists in people's minds in form of prejudice

and l see men are easily hunt
 

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Its hard to say. The first guy almost had the cops called on him by the pastor, but he may have not wanted to upset his kids on their family outing. Maybe the guy who confronted the black male would have done the same to the white male. Maybe the guy who decided not to confront the white male wouldn't have done so to the black male.

Either way, this isn't exactly a variable controlled exercise.
It's pretty comparable. It and it's been repeated in many different ways with almost exactly the same results.
 

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I didn't review all 12 plus minutes of the video but the first 4 minutes - that said, I don't believe this is racism per se but definitely racial profiling/stereotyping.

It's unfair and hard to know if there's a racial element because we don't know the neigborhood this occured in. If this is a neighborhood where few black people live or visit, seeing a young black man act this way would be more suspicious than seeing a young white man doing the same thing - context is important.
 

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I didn't review all 12 plus minutes of the video but the first 4 minutes - that said, I don't believe this is racism per se but definitely racial profiling/stereotyping.

It's unfair and hard to know if there's a racial element because we don't know the neigborhood this occured in. If this is a neighborhood where few black people live or visit, seeing a young black man act this way would be more suspicious than seeing a young white man doing the same thing - context is important.
Only in that it would tell us which group is prejudice.
 

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I recognize the voice of John Quinones. It's "What Would You Do?".

If profiling, stereotyping, and assumption is racism...then sure.
 

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I didn't review all 12 plus minutes of the video but the first 4 minutes - that said, I don't believe this is racism per se but definitely racial profiling/stereotyping.

It's unfair and hard to know if there's a racial element because we don't know the neigborhood this occured in. If this is a neighborhood where few black people live or visit, seeing a young black man act this way would be more suspicious than seeing a young white man doing the same thing - context is important.
This is pretty close. For me, to be racist there needs to be an element of a feeling of racial superiority/inferiority, which is impossible to determine from what I watched of the video. AS I have commented more than once, for me racism is a term we throw around far too much. Something can be bad without being racist.
 

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Only in that it would tell us which group is prejudice.
If this was a black neighborhood where whites seldom visit and the opposite scenario was presented, do you think the black people who stolled by would act any differently? I don't think it would be much of a stretch, drawing on some racial stereotypes, to suggest that if a white kid was trying to steal a bike in a black neighborhood, they wouldn't be calling the police, they'd be calling friends to participate in or watch the white guy get whooped.

My point was that the scenario presented in the video wasn't typical of places where whites and blacks intermingle - pretty much all of the people who went by were white with the exception of the three black women and then the camera guys were probably waiting all day for somebody black to go by so they could set up their story agenda.

If this was a place where lots of whites and lots of blacks walk by regularly, you'd get a far better appreciation for what part race is playing in the dynamic as opposed to what "difference" is playing in the dynamic.
 

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I didn't review all 12 plus minutes of the video but the first 4 minutes - that said, I don't believe this is racism per se but definitely racial profiling/stereotyping.

It's unfair and hard to know if there's a racial element because we don't know the neigborhood this occured in. If this is a neighborhood where few black people live or visit, seeing a young black man act this way would be more suspicious than seeing a young white man doing the same thing - context is important.
It would be interesting to do that same exercise in Chicago at Seward Park.
 

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It's something that goes deeper than racism, as the psychologist explains and the examples with the pretty girl demonstrate (in the 2nd half of the video)
 

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This is not only clearly racism but it is also sexism...
 

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I posted this video on another thread, but I think it deserves its own discussion.
How did they cut the video? Could make a difference. Provide the pure raw video for us.
 

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I have to abstain as I am not clear exactly what is or is not racist anymore.

I get the part where more people had red flags pop up when it was the black guy doing the deed, compared to the white guy. That way, it appears racist to me.

But is that racist or just a condition response rooted more towards self-preservation? Much like if you saw a pitt bull approaching a school yard vs. a Labrador Retriever. Work with me here. We all know the history of the dog breed "pitt bull," and their propensity to attack. Especially children. We also know that some pitt bulls are as gentle as kittens.

But if an unknown pitt bull was approaching your child, would you be wary and discriminate in your actions simply because of the dog's breed? Would that make one an animal racist? Or would that make on a wise and cautious person?

The same with people. It's all over the TV. It's all over the papers. It's on C.O.P.S. Black people committing crimes here. Committing crimes there. I submit a very HIGHLY disproportional amount of crimes are committed by young black males. Is that to say that all young black males are criminals? Certainly not. Just like not all pitt bulls are bad dogs.

But would you let your child wander into the yard of an unknown pitt bull? If your answer is no, I could not say if you are a animal racist or a smart person. Therefore I would have to abstain. Just like I did in the poll.
 

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I posted this video on another thread, but I think it deserves its own discussion.

This is a direct, yes-or-no question: Does racism occur in this video?

No. It's profiling.
 

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Pretty solid example of the stereotypes we all carry.
 

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Interesting that the person with the best morals in this situation was the pastor...
 

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You can pretty clearly see what happened in the video shown...
One can believe that, if they desire. A video can be cut any number of ways to show what the editors want to show, in general.
 

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One can believe that, if they desire. A video can be cut any number of ways to show what the editors want to show, in general.
race based prejudice is a fact
 
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