• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Is This Just Rhetoric Or Does Trump Have A Plan? What Do You Think?

Just Rhetoric Or Does Trump Have A Plan?


  • Total voters
    17

Myview

Active member
Joined
Oct 20, 2018
Messages
439
Reaction score
145
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

Could not create the poll. Didn't do it within 5 minutes of creating the thread. O well
 
Last edited:

Nap

DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 12, 2016
Messages
8,362
Reaction score
3,187
Location
Jackson, MS
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

I think he just picked up on the anger those on the right have towards most of the MSM and ran with it. It is less of a plan and more of red meat to his base.
 

FreedomFromAll

Political Parties = Corruption
DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 16, 2011
Messages
19,000
Reaction score
5,933
Location
New Mexico USA
Gender
Male
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

Could not create the poll. Didn't do it within 5 minutes of creating the poll. O well

I think that you are giving Trump too much credit.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
90,027
Reaction score
38,878
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

Could not create the poll. Didn't do it within 5 minutes of creating the thread. O well

Don't worry, he's not going to hobble fake news. He's trolling them.
 

ataraxia

DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 18, 2016
Messages
36,556
Reaction score
16,299
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

Could not create the poll. Didn't do it within 5 minutes of creating the thread. O well

Yes. We must go back to honesty and truth- and going back to talking about and investigating Obama’s secret Kenyan birth certificate for another six years straight! :lamo

Maybe while we’re at it we can also talk a little bit more about how Trump U is better than Harvard! :lamo
 

Rogue Valley

Putin = War Criminal
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 18, 2013
Messages
81,536
Reaction score
66,504
Location
Barsoom
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

Could not create the poll. Didn't do it within 5 minutes of creating the thread. O well

Lesley Stahl pre-interview with Donald Trump for a "60 Minutes" segment. “I said, ‘You know, this is getting tired. Why are you doing it over and over? It’s boring and it’s time to end that. You know, you’ve won ... why do you keep hammering at this?’” Stahl recalled. “And he said: ‘You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.’”
President Trump told Lesley Stahl he bashes press ‘to demean you and discredit you so ... no one will believe’ negative stories about him
 

Myview

Active member
Joined
Oct 20, 2018
Messages
439
Reaction score
145
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
Don't worry, he's not going to hobble fake news. He's trolling them.

I see, he hammers at all news reporting, especially the MSM that most of the country watches every evening or all day long on the internet so that they won't believe even true stories. Preaching to your choir may get out your base vote but the constant hammering at it also gives a reason for the other base vote to come out. We recognize that there is bias and news has become news entertainment. Hard news reporting isn't done much any more. Bias doesn't mean that the reporting or the news entertainment isn't true.
 

Checkerboard Strangler

Sagalong Catastrophe Ranch
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 8, 2005
Messages
60,452
Reaction score
42,273
Location
Los Angeles
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

Could not create the poll. Didn't do it within 5 minutes of creating the thread. O well

Rhetoric, syphilitic circling the drain rhetoric, crazy town. I'm not joking.
 

Peter King

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Monthly Donator
Joined
Feb 19, 2012
Messages
29,956
Reaction score
14,648
Location
Netherlands
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Moderate
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

Could not create the poll. Didn't do it within 5 minutes of creating the thread. O well

Trump uses this to mask the fact that most of his ideas and tactics are not working with the general public and creates what we Dutch all the Calimero effect.

1888795_1.jpg

He is famous because he always complained that he is small and other's are big and that it is not fair/an injustice.

And that is the Trump motto, I am right, they are wrong and they lie about it, it is not fair, it is an injustice.

And if he repeats that nonsense often enough, people will believe it in the end, at least the Trump voters who believe Trump is a raving success if the media would just honestly report it. This is all done to win the next election by making Trump voters as "deaf" to critical journalists as is humanly possible.
 

haymarket

DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 3, 2010
Messages
120,954
Reaction score
28,531
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Trump has no real plan other than to attack the news media to attempt to delegitimize them in the eyes of his adoring Trumpkins when they report harmful news stories about him, his criminal operations and his administration.
 

Checkerboard Strangler

Sagalong Catastrophe Ranch
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 8, 2005
Messages
60,452
Reaction score
42,273
Location
Los Angeles
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Trump uses this to mask the fact that most of his ideas and tactics are not working with the general public and creates what we Dutch all the Calimero effect.

View attachment 67247511

He is famous because he always complained that he is small and other's are big and that it is not fair/an injustice.

And that is the Trump motto, I am right, they are wrong and they lie about it, it is not fair, it is an injustice.

And if he repeats that nonsense often enough, people will believe it in the end, at least the Trump voters who believe Trump is a raving success if the media would just honestly report it. This is all done to win the next election by making Trump voters as "deaf" to critical journalists as is humanly possible.

Drug addicts use this kind of logic to rationalize their addiction all the time.
 

Xelor

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 20, 2018
Messages
10,257
Reaction score
4,161
Location
Washington, D.C.
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Is This Just Rhetoric Or Does Trump Have A Plan? What Do You Think?

I have my doubts about whether Trump can spell "plan," and I'm sure he hasn't got one.
 

Checkerboard Strangler

Sagalong Catastrophe Ranch
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 8, 2005
Messages
60,452
Reaction score
42,273
Location
Los Angeles
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
You mean Trump voters are like addicts? Or what do you want to convey with your comment?

Hardcore Trump supporters behave a lot like drug addicts.
Extreme fundamentalists (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) also act like drug addicts.
 

tres borrachos

HoHoHo
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 20, 2012
Messages
101,962
Reaction score
80,470
Location
Biden's 'Murica
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Moderate

MrShangles

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 28, 2014
Messages
1,950
Reaction score
357
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

Could not create the poll. Didn't do it within 5 minutes of creating the thread. O well

But things liberals say about him don’t matter? And now it looks like the new thing from MSM is to attack Trump supporters also, hypocrisy again


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Rogue Valley

Putin = War Criminal
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 18, 2013
Messages
81,536
Reaction score
66,504
Location
Barsoom
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
The only plan Trump has is to talk to Miller, Limbaugh, Hannity, Meadows, Erdogan, and Putin and ask them what he should do next.
 

Waddy

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 21, 2017
Messages
8,518
Reaction score
2,430
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Moderate
WOW....WOW... Trump is effective. He lives in your liberal heads. I'd say his plan is working.
 

Myview

Active member
Joined
Oct 20, 2018
Messages
439
Reaction score
145
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
But things liberals say about him don’t matter? And now it looks like the new thing from MSM is to attack Trump supporters also, hypocrisy again


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Of course things Liberals say about him matter. Conservative are said to place more importance on Loyalty than Liberals. Perhaps the MSM is now criticizing Conservatives for Loyalty to Trump. Will there ever be a point where Conservatives say we need a new Conservative leader? Loyalty is admirable but it has its limits.
 

slick

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 19, 2017
Messages
7,042
Reaction score
2,247
Location
Nassau County, Long Island
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Yes. We must go back to honesty and truth- and going back to talking about and investigating Obama’s secret Kenyan birth certificate for another six years straight! :lamo

Maybe while we’re at it we can also talk a little bit more about how Trump U is better than Harvard! :lamo

Trumps talks about real issues confronting the country while his detractors zero in on the things like you are ranting about.
Obama's birth certificate, Trump U, Two scoops of Ice Cream only offering one to his guests and the ice cream has to be vanila.
dog whistles OF COURSE & Kavanaugh a rapist that one takes the cake.

Hears the deal instead of the silliness try whipping the dialogue around matters of great consequence to the country like unemployment &
immigration for starters & you'll find Trump is ahead of the curve!
 

MrShangles

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 28, 2014
Messages
1,950
Reaction score
357
Of course things Liberals say about him matter. Conservative are said to place more importance on Loyalty than Liberals. Perhaps the MSM is now criticizing Conservatives for Loyalty to Trump. Will there ever be a point where Conservatives say we need a new Conservative leader? Loyalty is admirable but it has its limits.

I really appreciate your real debate, and that being said, Trump is the first conservative representative that us right wingers have ever had that will actually stand up against liberals. Our guys usually just go cower in the corner and let Democrat’s have their way, So yes we are VERY loyal to someone that is on our side for change. Aren’t you loyal to your side?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

Myview

Active member
Joined
Oct 20, 2018
Messages
439
Reaction score
145
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
I really appreciate your real debate, and that being said, Trump is the first conservative representative that us right wingers have ever had that will actually stand up against liberals. Our guys usually just go cower in the corner and let Democrat’s have their way, So yes we are VERY loyal to someone that is on our side for change. Aren’t you loyal to your side?

No, the ethos of Liberals generally does not give Loyalty as much importance as Conservatives. We value loyalty just not to the degree that Conservatives do. The ethos of Liberals is generally equality, fairness, care, and protection from harm. The ethos of Conservatives is generally Loyalty, patriotism, respect for authority, and moral purism. That does not mean we don't all possess
some of all these qualities its a matter of the degree and importance we place on them. I suppose if we had a candidate who was elected and governed on the same platform he/she campaigned on I would be loyal. That seldom happens.
 

DaveFagan

Iconoclast
DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 20, 2011
Messages
10,090
Reaction score
5,056
Location
wny
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
On Monday morning Trump again attacked the media using standard Trump language:

"Crazed Lunatics that have given up on the TRUTH"
"Enemy of the People"
"We must bring honesty back to journalists and reporting"
"They write deliberatly false stories to make me and my administration look bad"

As a candidate Trump advocated changing libel laws so that politicians can sue news organizations and reporters.

He stated this morning as he has several times "We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting'

Is Trump ramping up attacks on media to discredit them as we get closer to the 2020 elections?

Could he really have a plan to hobble news reporting and have more control over the press? How would he do this with divided government.

Could not create the poll. Didn't do it within 5 minutes of creating the thread. O well

Never underestimate Trump's ability to manipulate the MSM. How do you think he became President? The MSM does skew the news, but not for or against Trump. He makes his own good and bad news and it all gets printed. As a narcissistic individual he can't take responsibility for creating his own bad news so he blames the MSM. He's trying to slip and slide to change perception on the Wall and it's not going to work. This is one turd he's going to have to swallow. Reality Bites, eh?
/
 

Myview

Active member
Joined
Oct 20, 2018
Messages
439
Reaction score
145
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
Never underestimate Trump's ability to manipulate the MSM. How do you think he became President? The MSM does skew the news, but not for or against Trump. He makes his own good and bad news and it all gets printed. As a narcissistic individual he can't take responsibility for creating his own bad news so he blames the MSM. He's trying to slip and slide to change perception on the Wall and it's not going to work. This is one turd he's going to have to swallow. Reality Bites, eh?
/

He became President by running against a terribly flawed Democrat who still managed to win the popular vote by 3 million votes. You give Trump too much credit. He followed the advice of a handful of far right political operatives. He was as shocked as anyone that it worked. It won't work twice.
 
Top Bottom