Is There No Way To Force Elections in America If A Budget Fails?

[Carjosse]

In most other countries like Canada or Australia if a budget will fail to pass elections are usually called and the governing party/coalition will try to get a majority to pass the budget if not try again. When the government actually did shutdown in Australia in 1975 the governor general removed the Prime Minster and appointed a new one and then called elections. Does America have no way of calling elections for the Senate or House in the vent a budget does not pass or will not pass?

 

[Rainman05]

In most other countries like Canada or Australia if a budget will fail to pass elections are usually called and the governing party/coalition will try to get a majority to pass the budget if not try again. When the government actually did shutdown in Australia in 1975 the governor general removed the Prime Minster and appointed a new one and then called elections. Does America have no way of calling elections for the Senate or House in the vent a budget does not pass or will not pass?

If you swear fealty to the Queen of England, then she can dissolve Congress and have new elections done very rapidly. Just like in Australia or Canada.

 

[Carjosse]

If you swear fealty to the Queen of England, then she can dissolve Congress and have new elections done very rapidly.

I don't understand why they don't just do it by themselves if you believe you represent the people's views on the budget then you should win the election right?

 

[Unitedwestand13]

I don't understand why they don't just do it by themselves if you believe you represent the people's views on the budget then you should win the election right?

i think canada and australia have that power to force a election because whoever controls the legeslative branch gets to choose the prime minister to represent the executive branch.

 

[Fenton]

Elections have consequences.

We elected our republican representives and expect them to stop this disastrous bill.

 

[clownboy]

Yes there is a way, but it's cumbersome and expensive. Recall every congress critter, or just a goodly percentage of them.

 

[calamity]

The election will be in 13 months. This will either boost the chances of the GOP or sink them. Either way, we aren't Australia. Elections are fixed in time.

 

[calamity]

Yes there is a way, but it's cumbersome and expensive. Recall every congress critter, or just a goodly percentage of them.

Funny thing is everyone must like their congressman because as bad as thier approval ratings always turn out to be, over 90% get reelected and a lot of them run damned near unopposed.

 

[Rainman05]

I don't understand why they don't just do it by themselves if you believe you represent the people's views on the budget then you should win the election right?

Here's a pop quiz.
What makes you think that if there are elections now, not 1 year since the last elections, that anything will change? Or even better, what makes you think it will change in the favor of the party you prefer?

And when you're saying: win the election;
what election? There hundreds of elections for Congress in disctricts and the states because I am assuming you're not talking about presidential elections.

The people who put the democrats in Congress in those districts that are well established democrat strongholds will continue to elect the same or other democrats and the same for the republican strongholds. The only chance is the independents, and any independent worth his salt will say: screw both the parties because they're all moronic.

 

[Carjosse]

Funny thing is everyone must like their congressman because as bad as thier approval ratings always turn out to be, over 90% get reelected and a lot of them run damned near unopposed.

Gerrymandering isn't it great?

 

[clownboy]

Funny thing is everyone must like their congressman because as bad as thier approval ratings always turn out to be, over 90% get reelected and a lot of them run damned near unopposed.

Yeah, noticed the same thing. But then we've been trained since birth to not rock that boat and to stay away from our People's duty to maintain our government. Think about it, when was the last constitutional amendment? We're trained now to let SCOTUS do that for us (even though constitutionally it is not their place to do so).

 

[Anagram]

Yes there is a way, but it's cumbersome and expensive. Recall every congress critter, or just a goodly percentage of them.

There's no recall provision for federal representatives.

 

[AlabamaPaul]

There's no recall provision for federal representatives.

There isn't???

 

[Linc]

Vulnerable Republicans: End the shutdown

Funny thing is everyone must like their congressman because as bad as thier approval ratings always turn out to be, over 90% get reelected and a lot of them run damned near unopposed.

 

[Rainman05]

 

[clownboy]

There's no recall provision for federal representatives.

I'll be darned, you're correct. It was proposed early on after the adoption of the Constitution but never passed. Thanks for that info.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

I'll be darned, you're correct. It was proposed early on after the adoption of the Constitution but never passed. Thanks for that info.

maybe it is time to reconsider that proposal.

 

[calamity]

Gerrymandering isn't it great?

It's amazing how predictable people are. The only real fight in over 90% of the districts is the primary.


shakes head

 

[calamity]

Yeah, noticed the same thing. But then we've been trained since birth to not rock that boat and to stay away from our People's duty to maintain our government. Think about it, when was the last constitutional amendment? We're trained now to let SCOTUS do that for us (even though constitutionally it is not their place to do so).

I think many Americans are born into a Party like they are a given religion. It takes something major, like moving to a new district, perhaps, to change one's party affiliation.

 

[calamity]

Vulnerable Republicans: End the shutdown

I think there are a dozen ready to do just that right now.

 

[Linc]

On one hand, the bomb-throwers are giddy about the shutdown and bragging about doing it. OTOH, the Leaders like Boehner and McConnell are trying to spin this back at Democrats. Which is it with them? Their new strategy of mini-bills was given to them last week by Speaker Cruz.

I think there are a dozen ready to do just that right now.

 

[calamity]

On one hand, the bomb-throwers are giddy about the shutdown and bragging about doing it. OTOH, the Leaders like Boehner and McConnell are trying to spin this back at Democrats. Which is it with them? Their new strategy of mini-bills was given to them last week by Speaker Cruz.

Internal Civil War. The nuts are bragging while the corporate Repubs are busy doing damage control.

 

[Linc]

Steny Hoyer was correct. Dems gave the Repubs their sequester numbers and they still walked away. Repubs want a conference now to go back to 60 votes in the Senate, continue to change amendments, and are now trying to fund one department when they get a negative backlash, like the National Parks.

Internal Civil War. The nuts are bragging while the corporate Repubs are busy doing damage control.

 

[Perotista]

In most other countries like Canada or Australia if a budget will fail to pass elections are usually called and the governing party/coalition will try to get a majority to pass the budget if not try again. When the government actually did shutdown in Australia in 1975 the governor general removed the Prime Minster and appointed a new one and then called elections. Does America have no way of calling elections for the Senate or House in the vent a budget does not pass or will not pass?

No, the United States Constitution is quite clear when elections will be held. In the countries you mention they have a completely different type of democracy than we have in America. House elections are held every two years, no exceptions. Presidential elections every four years, no exceptions. The senate or senator serves for six years with a third of the senate facing elections every other year and one particular senate seat once every six years. Of course there are special elections to fill vacancies due to death and resignations.

 

[Perotista]

On one hand, the bomb-throwers are giddy about the shutdown and bragging about doing it. OTOH, the Leaders like Boehner and McConnell are trying to spin this back at Democrats. Which is it with them? Their new strategy of mini-bills was given to them last week by Speaker Cruz.

Boehner is an enigma to me, sometimes good, sometimes bad. It is Reid and McConnell that I personally have no use for.