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You certainly have a point there E. But I don't recall any secular teachers stating, or claiming, that evolution directly is in conflict with biblical teachings. Indeed, we've seen believers from various Christian sects in this very forum state the two are not mutually exclusive.
What the heck are you even talking about? I don't see anybody else divulging every detail of their life in any given response here, so why am I being singled out? This is getting absurd.
ETA: And that you choose to concentrate on me, rather than recognize the fact somebody was making ASSumptions speaks volumes as to just how strong confirmation bias is.
OM
Secular teaching is in conflict with Genesis.
Actually, everyone else is giving complete thoughts and being as clear to what they mean and believe. You, on the other hand, are vague and refuse to open up. What are you hiding?
Secular teaching is in conflict with Genesis. I don't see why it would hurt to allow creationist scientific teachings into the curriculum. From what I read from their PhD's in science, physics, geologists and archeologist, there is no reason not to allow it into the books. Let the children and adults decide which they want to believe or perhaps do some investigations on their own. What are the secularists like yourself afraid of?
Oh? The entire concept of CORE education is to deny God. It's a product of the old USSR education system of Stalin and Lenin. The fact that our education system has been leaving out the Bible, prayer and other teachings of the Bible is encouraging the denial of God. The current education system teaches the validity and acceptance of many evil and vile moral sins. Adultery, abortion on demand, homosexual behavior, transgender behavior and many more things of evil and sin. Teaching against God and the things of God is teaching to deny God and do evil. Teaching socialism as a good thing which many high schools and universities are now teaching is evil and against God. There's a lot more too.
Secular teaching is in conflict with Genesis.
I don't see why it would hurt to allow creationist scientific teachings into the curriculum.
From what I read from their PhD's in science, physics, geologists and archeologist, there is no reason not to allow it into the books.
Let the children and adults decide which they want to believe or perhaps do some investigations on their own. What are the secularists like yourself afraid of?
You certainly have a point there E. But I don't recall any secular teachers stating, or claiming, that evolution directly is in conflict with biblical teachings. Indeed, we've seen believers from various Christian sects in this very forum state the two are not mutually exclusive.
True, I guess it depends on how closely one adheres to the creation account...I do see evolution being in direct conflict with Genesis, though...there was nothing spontaneous about God's creation of the universe imo...
Probably one of the reasons secular schools stay way from teaching religion. There are so many, and so much dissention within some religions, if they open that door, the '3 Rs' get lost in the shuffle.
I would prefer no teaching of religion rather than the teaching of a select few...prayers included...
True again...that should be left up to the parents...I would prefer no teaching of religion rather than the teaching of a select few...prayers included...
So in other words, you WOULD prefer religion to be taught in public school - so long as it's your religion. Would that be a fair estimate as to the broader context of your comment?
OM
I really have no problem with teaching the history of various religions, and religious sects...but I would suggest it is done in HS when the kids are more intellectually developed, and can use 'electives' if they are interested in matters of religion, religious history, religious doctrine.
I did not say that...in fact, the opposite...do you have comprehension problems?
True again...that should be left up to the parents...I would prefer no teaching of religion...
...rather than the teaching of a select few...prayers included...
That is why I am ASKING if that would be a fair assessment. If there are any questions as to my comprehension of what you said, it is because it has the appearance of being contradictory.
EXAMPLE:
A)
That seems pretty straightforward; you agreed with the other poster, and added that there should be NO teaching of religion.
but then...
B)
You turn right around and contradict that position by allowing for an EXCEPTION to a "select few". So that obviously begs the questions which select few, and would that happen to include your religion?
As you can demonstrably see now, that has nothing to do with a "comprehension problem", and more along the lines of an apparent contradiction problem which at the very least requires clarification.
OM
You DO have a comprehension problem...that explains a lot...
No, you showed you have a comprehension problem...I just showed you and everybody else how your words have the appearance of contradiction, thus not necessarily relative to comprehension at all.
You said NO RELIGION; then turned right around in the same paragraph and allowed for an exception - "prayers included".
OM
No, you showed you have a comprehension problem...
So you're going to continue asserting that your contradictory words - in black and white- somehow equate to my comprehension problem? You said one thing, then said the complete opposite. Right there, in black and white. I've re-read it several times, and it's unmistakable that you would allow for an exception immediately after saying there should be none.
OM
...because I said no such thing...
And yet your own words (which I quoted) belie this.
OM
Wrong...
Tell you what, let's put this to bed; settle it once and for all.
Do you feel that religion, any religion - "prayers included", should be allowed in public school? Yes, or no? Nothing more beyond that is required.
OM
Oh? The entire concept of CORE education is to deny God. It's a product of the old USSR education system of Stalin and Lenin. The fact that our education system has been leaving out the Bible, prayer and other teachings of the Bible is encouraging the denial of God. The current education system teaches the validity and acceptance of many evil and vile moral sins. Adultery, abortion on demand, homosexual behavior, transgender behavior and many more things of evil and sin. Teaching against God and the things of God is teaching to deny God and do evil. Teaching socialism as a good thing which many high schools and universities are now teaching is evil and against God. There's a lot more too.
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