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Is there also a kind of Godwin's Law for the mentioning of Donald Trump?

element94 said:
delegitimize ze present system of government.
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You try to imitate a North German now.
If a South German cannot pronounce a "the" correctly, he would say: "se present system" ....
 
Still no idea how such a kind of "law" may be named?

Donald's Law - or some such name?
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
By, yeah, the misnomer of calling an opponent a Nazi is pretty universal, but on this thread, bemoaning the use of the term against Trump, when you can easily scour the comments made about Biden or the Democrats and see the same reference made. Same with calling someone you disagree with Fascist or Commie.
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Biden and the Democrats are not called fascist. BLM is and the Democrats support BLM, so you can make the case that it is an accusation by proxy, but no more than that.

SNOWFLAKE said:
However, bemoaning the usage against Trump, while ignoring the universal use to slag anyone you disagree with, is kind of humorous.
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it isn't universal, which is why it should not be humorous.


element94 said:
There you go making shit up again. It's about its occurrence, not a contest. As for Trumpublicans and Nazism, when two things get too close for comfort Godwin's Law is irrelevant.
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It's a very old principle that the first to use a pejorative is losing the argument. Trump followers and Nazis are so far apart that the reference is necessarily specious.

Cosmik Debris said:
The fact that Trump and his cultists support the destruction of our electoral process just to keep him in power is something that will stay with us one way or another for generations to come. Get used to his name being brought up as a bad example for the same amount of time.
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What you call a fact is actually your opinion and not a well-supported one, ie lacking in facts. Intelligent and unbiased people acknowledge that Trump was a good President because there are facts to support that opinion.


element94 said:
But when you walk like a Nazi and talk like a Nazi...
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Then you are BLM.

What's your point?
 
First, there are a couple ways to look at your question. One is to look at trump being a different topic than Nazis and asking it Godwin's law applies; but another interpretation is to ask if Godwin's law directly applies, because trump is so much a Nazi. So bringing up trump basically is bringing up Nazis.

But let's answer the case that it's two different topic.

You appear to need to learn about what Godwin's law is: originally, it was the claim that in internet arguments, the longer they went on, the higher odds that one side would eventually accuse the other of being like Nazis or Hitler. And the rule was, the first side to do that would lose the argument.

It was later added as a 'corollary' to the law, that gratuitous uses of Nazi analogies would also lose an argument - e.g., "You want a vaccine mandate for employers? You're a Nazi!"

The thing with the corollary is that it's debatable when the analogy is gratuitous, because sometimes the analogy is appropriate, and when it's appropriate, it is NOT a problem.

But it's become common for people to mindlessly respond "Godwin's Law!" to ANY mention of the Nazis when they're on the short end of the stick, no matter how correct or appropriate, as if simply saying those two words was a defense when the comparison is justified. I'd say the same applies with references to trump - but most with trump seem correct. If one isn't, I guess you could involve 'Godwin's Law'. Want to link an example that's unjustified?
 
I posted on this quite a while back, I adjusted it as such"

Godwins law Rev 2
The theory that as an online discussion progresses, it becomes inevitable that someone or something will eventually be compared to Donald Trump or the GOP, regardless of the original topic.

Eliminating the Nazi reference because calling Trump a Nazi is a given among the left and did not require repeating. Pointing out instead that Trump or the GOP would be used to sideline the topic at hand.
 
Jay59 said:
It's a cult-think projection. Since the media cult universally hates Trump, all exceptions must be a rival cult, hence they worship him.

The cult cannot acknowledge what the rational world considers obvious, that Trump did a good job.


Godwin's law proves out again.
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Rational world called and asked that you not lie about them

Proof is in the election results
 
Jay59 said:
Biden and the Democrats are not called fascist. BLM is and the Democrats support BLM, so you can make the case that it is an accusation by proxy, but no more than that.


it isn't universal, which is why it should not be humorous.



It's a very old principle that the first to use a pejorative is losing the argument. Trump followers and Nazis are so far apart that the reference is necessarily specious.


What you call a fact is actually your opinion and not a well-supported one, ie lacking in facts. Intelligent and unbiased people acknowledge that Trump was a good President because there are facts to support that opinion.



Then you are BLM.

What's your point?
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Claiming BLM is fascist is demonstrating a serious lack of understanding what fascism is.

Red state educated?
 
hindsight said:
Im sure you Trump worshipers would love nothing more than for everyone to forget that the last 4 years happened.
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Well I don't think they're really smart enough to realize the damage that Trump did and the dangers of Trump's Sedition.
 
Rumpel said:
Is there also a kind of Godwin's Law for the mentioning of Donald Trump?

I am sure you know Godwin's Law:



en.wikipedia.org

Godwin's law - Wikipedia

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Now I have noticed that in many discussions the name "Trump" appears sooner or later, whether the topic is related to Trump or not.
I wonder if it isn't time to formulate a law for the mentioning of Trump.

Or is there one already?
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That's Trump Derangement Syndrome; you're getting things confused.
 
American said:
That's Trump Derangement Syndrome; you're getting things confused.
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'trump derangement syndrome' is trump being deranged. That's not the same as 'Obama derangement syndrome' which was things like idiots falling for trump lying that Obama wasn't born in the US.
 
Trump is so ignorant and stupid, the bottom of our barrel fantasizes they're the smart ones. That's the fundamental problem. Trump provides validation for the horribly stupid who should, instead, be marginalized.
 
Jay59 said:
Biden and the Democrats are not called fascist. BLM is and the Democrats support BLM, so you can make the case that it is an accusation by proxy, but no more than that.


it isn't universal, which is why it should not be humorous.



It's a very old principle that the first to use a pejorative is losing the argument. Trump followers and Nazis are so far apart that the reference is necessarily specious.


What you call a fact is actually your opinion and not a well-supported one, ie lacking in facts. Intelligent and unbiased people acknowledge that Trump was a good President because there are facts to support that opinion.



Then you are BLM.

What's your point?
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He tried to overturn an election based on nothing more than he didn't like the results. That is a good president?
 
Hampton86 said:
Rational world called and asked that you not lie about them
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You should take that advice. Trump's accomplishments speak for themselves.

Hampton86 said:
Proof is in the election results
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It is, but not the way you apparently think.

Hampton86 said:
Claiming BLM is fascist is demonstrating a serious lack of understanding what fascism is.
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Socialist roots? Check.
Racial supremism? Check.
Blame all problems on an ethnic group? Check.
Violence and intimidation as political tools? Check.
Censorship and history revision? Check.
Propaganda? Check.

BLM is checking all the fascist points.

Hampton86 said:
Red state educated?
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Elitist much?

University educated.

Cosmik Debris said:
He tried to overturn an election based on nothing more than he didn't like the results. That is a good president?
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If that were true you would have a small point. He certainly did an Al Gore.

Trump was a good President because of what his administration accomplished--FIRST STEP, border security, record low unemployment, Abrahamic Accords, energy independence, defeating ISIS, tax reform, etc.
 
Jay59 said:
You should take that advice. Trump's accomplishments speak for themselves.


It is, but not the way you apparently think.


Socialist roots? Check.
Racial supremism? Check.
Blame all problems on an ethnic group? Check.
Violence and intimidation as political tools? Check.
Censorship and history revision? Check.
Propaganda? Check.

BLM is checking all the fascist points.


Elitist much?

University educated.


If that were true you would have a small point. He certainly did an Al Gore.

Trump was a good President because of what his administration accomplished--FIRST STEP, border security, record low unemployment, Abrahamic Accords, energy independence, defeating ISIS, tax reform, etc.
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Socialist roots?

LMAO

Priceless!

Makes you seem a tad paranoid; and proof I was right, but still priceless
 
Jay59 said:
You should take that advice. Trump's accomplishments speak for themselves.


It is, but not the way you apparently think.


Socialist roots? Check.
Racial supremism? Check.
Blame all problems on an ethnic group? Check.
Violence and intimidation as political tools? Check.
Censorship and history revision? Check.
Propaganda? Check.

BLM is checking all the fascist points.


Elitist much?

University educated.


If that were true you would have a small point. He certainly did an Al Gore.

Trump was a good President because of what his administration accomplished--FIRST STEP, border security, record low unemployment, Abrahamic Accords, energy independence, defeating ISIS, tax reform, etc.
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If it were not true, where is the evidence he has to overturn the election? It doesn't matter what else he did, a US president attacking elections is pretty the worst thing he can do.
 
The left are obsessed with everything Trump, and wait in line to sniff his golf pants.
 
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