Is the US a coming fascist power, or increasing its role as the world's leader for freedom?

[Fletch]

I've asked you this before, who is this "we", quenosabi?

Uh, you and me.

 

[Fletch]

People whose job it is to monitor and evaluate the situation and who are better educated and experienced in the subject than you disagree.

Lol. Anyone who claims the American right is fascist is an idiot. Period.

 

[Ren]

You really don't know the answer to your question? I guess you were asleep at the wheel during the Trump years.

Not to mention during Jan 6 and during the past 14 months after that, while the Republicans passed a whole bunch of new voter suppression laws in states like TX, GA, and AZ.

When the Republicans take over in Jan 2023, you'll have the answer to your question.

You're just pissed off that we won't let you erase our borders and embrace everyone (including drug dealers, human traffickers, terrorists and other criminals).

 

[Argent]

Lol. Anyone who claims the American right is fascist is an idiot. Period.

You are happily, idly, and dangerously afloat on a leaky boat in the middle of deNile.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Uh, you and me.

But you already admitted I said nothing about "China", so it is insane to assume I agree with you.

 

[Craig234]

So we agree. The Chinese are pro-liberal...

That's a lie.

 

[Chase Morgan]

You are happily, idly, and dangerously afloat on a leaky boat in the middle of deNile.

Actually, fletch's boat hit an iceberg and sank quickly a looooong time ago, A...

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

You're just pissed off that we won't let you erase our borders and embrace everyone (including drug dealers, human traffickers, terrorists and other criminals).

Shit....that is like issue #583 on my list of priorities for this country. You Republicans are a bigger threat to this country than anyone from the outside. Jan 6 proved that.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

Shit....that is like issue #583 on my list of priorities for this country. You Republicans are a bigger threat to this country than anyone from the outside. Jan 6 proved that.

Agree, the enemy within. "..... all enemies foreign and domestic"

 

[Ren]

Shit....that is like issue #583 on my list of priorities for this country. You Republicans are a bigger threat to this country than anyone from the outside. Jan 6 proved that.

That's bullshit, and we both know it. Try issue 5.83 instead, or issue 6 rounded up. And I'm not even sure 6 is high enough for you people.

We're a bigger threat to the woke wankers, that's for damn sure.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

That's bullshit, and we both know it. Try issue 5.83 instead, or issue 6 rounded up. And I'm not even sure 6 is high enough for you people.

We're a bigger threat to the woke wankers, that's for damn sure.

Your pet issue is bullshit, maybe we both agree on that.

You Trumpsters are dangerous and you must NEVER hold power in the Federal government again. You all simply can't accept election defeat anymore. That is the root of our current democratic crisis.

 

[Antiwar]

"Is the US a coming fascist power?"

With every election of a progressive Democrat we do take a step closer. Among our elected officials, a more intolerant lot you are unlikely to find.

Can you make a good case for this claim and include your chosen definition of fascism when doing so?

 

[Ren]

Your pet issue is bullshit, maybe we both agree on that.

You Trumpsters are dangerous and you must NEVER hold power in the Federal government again. You all simply can't accept election defeat anymore. That is the root of our current democratic crisis.

The democratic crisis is found in your attacks on Free Speech. It's found in your attempts to erase our borders. It's found in your attempts to denegrate white people, but still keep black people poor and uneducated. It's found in pretty much every f****** thing you people do.

No, the stop needs to be put on your side, not mine, and it isn't even a discussion.

 

[Antiwar]

Your analysis is garbage. The farther right one goes in American politics, the smaller the government. The right believes in a government whose power is constrained by the Constitution. It is the left that seeks an ever expanding state and its ever increasing power and control over the individual. If fascism arrives in America it will be people like you who bring it here.

If "the farther right one goes in American politics, the smaller the government," then why did Republicans try to steal the 2020 election? Because trying to steal an election (among other things they've tried and done) makes it seem to me that they're vying for power in bogus ways.

What definition of fascism are you using? What characteristics of fascism has the 'Left' been using? You know, because there are lists of what the 'Right' has done that's considered fascistic. Are there ones for the 'Left'?

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

The democratic crisis is found in your attacks on Free Speech. It's found in your attempts to erase our borders. It's found in your attempts to denegrate white people, but still keep black people poor and uneducated. It's found in pretty much every f****** thing you people do.

No, the stop needs to be put on your side, not mine, and it isn't even a discussion.

Nah...it's found in the Trump Cult Republican Party and in Jan 6.

Remember Jan 6? -- When that racist Trumpster mob attacked the Capitol and tried to kill Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi?

When those 147 Republican traitors in Congress voted to overturn Biden's victory, with no evidence of voter fraud?

Remember what your traitor party did that fateful day?

 

[ChickenTendies]

That isnt fascism. Like a good leftist, you have no clue what the word means. You just use it to label anything you dislike or disagree with.

It isnt an example of fascism. You have just been trained to label anything you dont like as fascism.

The irony...replace "fascism" with "communism" and you just inadvertently described yourself.

 

[Chase Morgan]

Your pet issue is bullshit, maybe we both agree on that.

You Trumpsters are dangerous and you must NEVER hold power in the Federal government again. You all simply can't accept election defeat anymore. That is the root of our current democratic crisis.

Spot on, RIP

republican FILTH is a clear and present DANGER to our democracy...

The Republican Assault on Democracy

Voter Suppression • Racist Lies & Conspiracies • Loyalty to Trump

www.thejan6thproject.com

 

[Ikari]

I don't think you have a solid grasp of the definitions of "democracy" or "fascism". But you're not alone; most prog/libs have the same problem.

Most Cons have the same issue with socialism and communism.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

Your pet issue is bullshit, maybe we both agree on that.

You Trumpsters are dangerous and you must NEVER hold power in the Federal government again. You all simply can't accept election defeat anymore. That is the root of our current democratic crisis.

They can't/won't accept defeat......and they can win without cheating, bullying, threatening and voter suppression. Quite the dilemma for our country, hopefully somehow, trumpism can be destroyed. If trumpism lives, democracy dies. We need two main healthy patriotic parties, right now we only have one, the Democratic Party.

 

[Antiwar]

I don't think you have a solid grasp of the definitions of "democracy" or "fascism".

You've made a declarative statement but you haven't supported it. I'd like to see what definitions of those two terms you're using.

 

[Bullseye]

You've made a declarative statement but you haven't supported it. I'd like to see what definitions of those two terms you're using.

Nice dodge. I expected as much. Why don't YOU give us YOUR definitions?

 

[Bullseye]

Most Cons have the same issue with socialism and communism.

And you've spoken to them to determine that? Or are you just reciting the lines your trainer taught you?

 

[Razoo]

Given the recent revelations of the New York Slimes admitting that Hunter's laptop is real, and not part of a Russian Disinformation campaign, when previously they, and a multitude of other so called 'news' sources behaving like political activists, the controlling the present as a means to control the past is quite apt. This equally applies to Big Tech which suppressed and censored reporting of that story.

The 'butterfly effect' of this is obvious:

Poll: One In Six Biden Voters Would Have Changed Their Vote If They Had Known About Scandals Suppressed By Media​

Poll: One In Six Biden Voters Would Have Changed Their Vote If They Had Known About Scandals Suppressed By Media

Biden voters were asked if they were aware of issues like Kamala Harris's liberal voting record, Trump Middle East peace deals, Hunter Biden's scandals and more.

thefederalist.com

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A new report from the Media Research Center shows that the media’s lack of coverage and big tech’s suppression of certain issues and scandals surrounding Democratic Presidential Nominee Joe Biden could have cost President Donald Trump the election.​

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The survey results report that 17 percent of Biden voters would not have voted for the Biden-Harris presidential ticket if they had known about at least one of the eight news stories that were suppressed by big tech and mainstream media outlets.​

Before you get all bent out of shape that it's The Federalist reporting, they are reporting on what MRC News Busters and MRC found:

SPECIAL REPORT: The Stealing of the Presidency, 2020​

Rich Noyes November 24th, 2020​

SPECIAL REPORT: The Stealing of the Presidency, 2020

The left-wing news media didn’t just poison the information environment with their incessantly negative coverage of President Trump going into the 2020 election. They also refused to give airtime to important arguments of the Republican campaign — both pro-Trump and anti-Biden — which meant...

www.newsbusters.org

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To measure the true effect of the media’s censorship on the election, the Media Research Center asked The Polling Company to survey 1,750 Biden voters in seven swing states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin), six of which (all but North Carolina) were called for Biden (survey details below). We tested these voters’ knowledge of eight news stories — all important topics that our ongoing analysis had shown the liberal news media had failed to cover properly. We found that a huge majority (82%) of Biden voters were unaware of at least one of these key items, with five percent saying they were unaware of all eight of the issues we tested.​

and it is from MRC's polling results, so this is really the people polled speaking here. Yes, you and me type folks.

fake news beyond reality .........

 

[Razoo]

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How Koch Style Fascism Is Being Promoted

Aegis Strategic http://www.motherjones.com/politics...candidate-training-recruiting-aegis-strategic

http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/al...te-special-interests-state-legislatures#Voter

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-van-roekel/exposing-alecs-agenda-to-_b_3223651.html

 

[Razoo]

== occupydemocrats.com › 2015/05/08 › how-the-kochHow The Koch Brothers Aim To Create A Fascist Dystopia ...​

The original impetus behind the Koch fascination with objectivist fascism is understandable. FredKoch, the founder of Koch Industries, worked in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin’s totalitarian regime, building oil refineries for the nascent empire and developed a passionate aversion to all things communist after seeing his colleagues vanish in the Great Purges.

== timeline.com › the-koch-family-s-nazi-ties-areThe Koch family’s Nazi ties are more entrenched than you ...​

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His biographer David Schulman notes that he “saw something laudable in the rise of fascism.” His private letters indicate that he was impressed with Hitler’s Germany. In addition to his dealings with Hitler, Fred Koch also did business with Stalin. He came away from that experience a staunch anti-communist.​

== debatepolitics.com › threads › privatization-is-kochPrivatization is Koch Style Fascism and Fascism is generally ...​

Privatization is Koch Style Fascism and Fascism is generally enforced by a military style dictatorship that does not allow free market capitalism​

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==www.reddit.com › r › politicsKoch Brothers Fascism Rising in America : politics - reddit​

The Koch brothers are absolutely fascist. They fund and control a network of organizations in the U.S. designed to look local and independent including the Texas Public Policy Foundation, Idaho Freedom Foundation, Alabama Policy Institute, Illinois Policy Institute, and the Montana Policy Institute.

== www.politicususa.com › 2015/07/31 › donald-trumpDonald Trump Exposes Koch Republicans As Glaring Fascists​

Most Americans likely have no real idea what fascism is, but if they listen to Donald Trump and peruse conservatives’ agenda, they will realize that officially, Koch Republicans are fascists.Rmuse...