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Is the Tea Party Primarily a Religious Movement?

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http://www.publicreligion.org/objects/uploads/fck/file/AVS 2010 Report FINAL.pdf

...the survey challenged much of the other conventional wisdom about Americans who consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement:

-Nearly half (47%) also say they are part of the religious right or conservative Christian movement. Among the more than 8-in-10 (81%) who identify as Christian within the Tea Party movement, 57% also consider themselves part of the Christian conservative movement.

-They make up just 11% of the adult population—half the size of the conservative Christian movement (22%).

-They are mostly social conservatives, not libertarians on social issues. Nearly two-thirds (63%) say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, and less than 1-in-5 (18%) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry.
The report includes a section on the strong connection between conservative christian views and the tea party. Interesting reading.

I would be interested to know what percentage of posters on the religion board, who routinely come out as anti-gay marriage and/or anti-abortion, consider themselves to be part of the tea party.

I think the claim can logically be made that this is not an economic movement. It's a "values/morality" movement.
 

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http://www.publicreligion.org/objects/uploads/fck/file/AVS 2010 Report FINAL.pdf



The report includes a section on the strong connection between conservative christian views and the tea party. Interesting reading.

I would be interested to know what percentage of posters on the religion board, who routinely come out as anti-gay marriage and/or anti-abortion, consider themselves to be part of the tea party.

I think the claim can logically be made that this is not an economic movement. It's a "values/morality" movement.

shhh...that's not how they want to portray themselves.
 

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I think most tea party people wouldn't want themselves identified as such but to deny that the tea party is heavily biased towards the pro-life, pro republican, anti gay marriage, religious right side of the spectrum is naive.
 

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Are many Tea Party activists socially conservative or religous? Sure. I would say that's no surprise. But that doesn't mean the purpose of the movement is rooted in a conservative social agenda or a religious one. The Tea Party has made it crystal clear that its agenda is focused on small government and fiscal conservatism. There is no need for a large grass roots movement to advocate social conservatism. Republicans have focused on social conservatism strongly for the last decade. In fact you could argue that social issues was the ONLY area the Bush administration was truly conservative.
 

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Are many Tea Party activists socially conservative or religous? Sure. I would say that's no surprise. But that doesn't mean the purpose of the movement is rooted in a conservative social agenda or a religious one.
So you're saying that the teapartiers weren't involved in un-electing judges in Iowa (social conservative agenda) or fighting gay marriage in Mass or California? because, strictly speaking, I don't think that's an accurate claim.
 

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Did teapartiers play a role in tossing those judges out? Or in opposing gay marriage? I'm sure they did. Like I said before, I'm sure most tea partiers are fairly socially conservative. But that's not why the joined the Tea Party. There already is a strong social conservative presence in the Republican Party. Those views have always been represented by the Republican Party. There was and is no need to have a massive grassroots uprising to make sure social conservatives are heard.

The Tea Party is about advancing small government and fiscal conservatism. That's the message the spokespeople preach on TV. That's the message that's hammered home at the rallies. That's what they want from their newly elected representives. The fact that many or maybe even most tea partiers are also socially conservative only means that at most you could call the Tea Party movement a paleoconservative movement that has so far emphasized a message of fiscal conservatism and small government.
 

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What is the definition of "religion?" It comes from the Latin, religere, meaning to bind, and expressing that one is bound to his beliefs. Whenever you hear people state the cliche; "we can talk about anything other than politics and religion," they've limited themselves in only discussing topics such as sports or the weather.

Maybe the OP should be clarified?
 

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You cannot mistake correlation with causation. While I'd say the majority of Tea Partiers are probably highly religious, that doesn't mean that their religiousity caused them to be Tea Partiers, any more than if the majority are white or the majority are male, their skin color or gender caused them to be Tea Partiers.
 

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The report includes a section on the strong connection between conservative christian views and the tea party. Interesting reading.

I would be interested to know what percentage of posters on the religion board, who routinely come out as anti-gay marriage and/or anti-abortion, consider themselves to be part of the tea party.

I think the claim can logically be made that this is not an economic movement. It's a "values/morality" movement.
It would take a rather large dose of indulging in the correlation means causation fallacy to come to such a conclusion, and it would be ANYTHING but logical.

Fiscal and Governmental conservatism is just that, a section of conservatism.

Memebers of the Religious Right at the very least are socially conservative.

Typically, many people who hold conservative values in one portion of conservatism hold the values in another section as well.

So it makes sense that people who are socially conservative are drawn to a movement that is fiscally conservative.

However, as it showed, more than half of the movement DOESN'T consider itself to be part of the religious right. Furthermore, its not surprising to find that there is more people who in general harbor social conservative values in the tea party, but not necessarily identify with the religious right, then there are who hold libertarian social values because as is perfectly evident from polls and political parties there are generally less "libertarians" in general than the opposite.

Additionally, two issues does not the "religious right" make. I'm hardly one you could consider "religious right", and yet a year ago I would've answered yes to the first question and no to the second. However if you were to follow up I'd have saidthat while its my personal view, I think it should be a state issue, and for the latter I would've said I supported civil unions. But for the purpose of that poll I would be lumped into the grouping.

Its only real joining document of 10 key issues are all focused on governmental or fiscal issues, and not one touches abortion or gay marriage. The main issues pushed as a national movement this year wasn't gay marriage or abortion but health care, taxes, deficiet spending, and expansion of government and this was mostly carried on the Tea Party wave.

Would I say that a majority IN the Tea Party are social conservatives? Yeah. That doens't make it a social conservative movement. Would I say that there are a lot of Religious Right people partaking in the Tea Party? Yes. There were a lot of environmentalists that were part of the Anti-War movement, but that didn't make that movement about the environment. The beauty of the Tea Party is that because its a primarily fiscal and governmentally conservative movement its attracting the Religious Right, the Paleoconservatives, and the Libertarians because its addressing an issue that all three groups of conservatives can join together on.

The issue as to why social conservatives are more highly represented within it is because two out of three of those groups hold to social conservatism, and one of those two is potentially the biggest out of any of the various groups.
 

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Is MADD a religious movement?


This is dumb.


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The movement is about fiscal responsibility and small government, not about jesus de christo.
 

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They Tea Party is about fiscal issues and taxation. It's not about religious issues and social conservatism. Trying to tie the Tea Party into the social conservative camp is dishonest. Many in the Tea Party may be social conservatives themselves, but they don't protest at Tea Party events for religious morals, they protest with others (who disagree with them on social issues) on the common ground that taxes are high and the government is fiscally foolish.
 

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They Tea Party is about fiscal issues and taxation. It's not about religious issues and social conservatism. Trying to tie the Tea Party into the social conservative camp is dishonest. Many in the Tea Party may be social conservatives themselves, but they don't protest at Tea Party events for religious morals, they protest with others (who disagree with them on social issues) on the common ground that taxes are high and the government is fiscally foolish.


If I had a nickle for everytime we have to correct these folks. /facepalm
 

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http://www.publicreligion.org/objects/uploads/fck/file/AVS 2010 Report FINAL.pdf

The report includes a section on the strong connection between conservative christian views and the tea party. Interesting reading.

I would be interested to know what percentage of posters on the religion board, who routinely come out as anti-gay marriage and/or anti-abortion, consider themselves to be part of the tea party.

I think the claim can logically be made that this is not an economic movement. It's a "values/morality" movement.
that many of the people crossover doesn't make the tea party a religious movement any more than it makes feminism a socialism movement.
 

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http://www.publicreligion.org/objects/uploads/fck/file/AVS 2010 Report FINAL.pdf



The report includes a section on the strong connection between conservative christian views and the tea party. Interesting reading.

I would be interested to know what percentage of posters on the religion board, who routinely come out as anti-gay marriage and/or anti-abortion, consider themselves to be part of the tea party.

I think the claim can logically be made that this is not an economic movement. It's a "values/morality" movement.
They are republicans trying to sucker people into voting for republicans by offering a false choice.
 
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