IS the media siding with the illegals? (1 Viewer)

[jamesrage]

Every time I turn the news on tv, I here the rats in the media refere to the illegal aliens as "undocumented workers", "migrant workers", "immigrints" or "Undocumented immigrints" and there is proably a few other terms that the media uses to try to somehow make it seem as those these people are not criminal and invaders.Why is it that the rats in the media calls these illegal alien and pro-illegals protesters the immigrint rights protesters?

Has anyone else noticed this word play the media uses when refering to illegal aliens?

 

[Alias]

I've noticed it all my life. Thank God we have the internet and cable TV for the facts and the truth.

 

[akyron]

I do not believe its all that way. I saw some interviews recently with some local protesters and they really had no idea as to what they were protesting at all. They were generally just partying, skipping school, or had a completely incorrect fantastic view of what was going on in congress. Out of the 5 people they interviewed downtown back to back they were ALL just there for reasons OTHER than legitimate protest.


Interviewer: Why are you protesting sir? What exactly are you protesting?
Protester: I'm just here to have fun vato!!--Local news in Dallas

 

[alphamale]

I've noticed that too. It's been "undocumented immigrants" for a long time. What's new is the liberal media using "immigrants rights", an oxymoron if there ever was one, which they have uncritically picked up from reconquista ideologues. I DID see NBC give airtime to a california academic who said the public services used by generally untaxed illegal aliens costs each california citizen household an extra $1200 in taxes they wouldn't otherwise have had to pay. Meanwhile on CBS, I heard Bob Schieffer giving airtime to a Univision hispanic reporter covering Houston marches, who told such whoppers as that the marches have been "spontaneous", with ol' Bob not questioning, just giving her a puffball suck piece "interview".

 

[Alias]

Bob Schieffer is one of the dinosaurs whose day is over. Who is behind all these "spontaneous" gatherings? The socialist wing of the democratic party machine, that's who.

 

[jamesrage]

I've noticed that too. It's been "undocumented immigrants" for a long time. What's new is the liberal media using "immigrants rights", an oxymoron if there ever was one, which they have uncritically picked up from reconquista ideologues. I DID see NBC give airtime to a california academic who said the public services used by generally untaxed illegal aliens costs each california citizen household an extra $1200 in taxes they wouldn't otherwise have had to pay. Meanwhile on CBS, I heard Bob Schieffer giving airtime to a Univision hispanic reporter covering Houston marches, who told such whoppers as that the marches have been "spontaneous", with ol' Bob not questioning, just giving her a puffball suck piece "interview".

The one thing I really hate that the media does sometimes is interview illegal aliens.It is almost as though the illegal aliens are just flaunting the fact they are breaking the law.

 

[aquapub]

Every time I turn the news on tv, I here the rats in the media refere to the illegal aliens as "undocumented workers", "migrant workers", "immigrints" or "Undocumented immigrints" and there is proably a few other terms that the media uses to try to somehow make it seem as those these people are not criminal and invaders.Why is it that the rats in the media calls these illegal alien and pro-illegals protesters the immigrint rights protesters?

Has anyone else noticed this word play the media uses when refering to illegal aliens?

illegal aliens/undocumented workers, terrorism/civil war/insurgency, pro-abortion/pro-choice, partial birth abortion/late term abortion...

One totally valid way to detect bias is which way a given media source leans with these kinds of wording choices-and most of the media consistently chooses whatever is most liberal...just watch sometime, you will see exactly what I mean.

And why shouldn't they? They have been repeatedly proved to be overwhelmingly liberal and Democrats. It is a conflict of interest no other area of American life would tolerate.

 

[talloulou]

Well how the heck do you know what to call the people parading in the street? Some of them could be immigrants. Some of them might be legal. To say it's an illegal alien parade protest might not be factual. What's interesting is that immigration officers aren't in attendance to sort out the facts. Then we'd have a better idea about who exactly those people in the streets are. I don't know what the heck to do about illegal aliens crossing the border. I feel bad for them but I also don't like the fact that they are a drain on our economy and they fill schools with kids that don't speak Engllish.

I saw one guy on TV that said people in the US don't call themselves United Statesians......they call themselves Americans and he has as much right to that label as anyone else, Si! I thought that was pretty funny. I saw another guy who claimed that no terrorists are named Juan Garcia or Rodriquez. He's got a point too and I thought that was funny. They also interviewed a women who said her whole family is here illegally except her son who was made an automatic citizen when he went to go fight in Iraq! Clearly you can't send them back to Mexico can you?

Making all the illegals citizens only encourages more Mexicans to cross the border in the hopes that one day they'll get amnesty too.

I really believe we should push the Mexican government to fix their country up. There's tons of beach front property in Mexico but noone wants to buy it? Why? Cause you can't. It's not for sale....it's for lease. Only the government is corrupt and so they set you up with a lease for 99 years and then they turn around in 3 years and say the lease is no longer valid. If they could somehow put an end to that rot then maybe people would buy beach front property in Mexico and boost that economy a bit. Have you ever been to TJ? I'd be illegally crawling my way into the US if I was born there too. That's why I don't know what the heck should be done.

I know there's alot of talk about these Mexicans that want to take back California and make it part of Mexcio or some such crap. But I lived in San Diego for many years and knew alot of Mexicans. They left Mexico and none of the ones I knew had any intention of turning the Southern US into Mexico. They left Mexico for a reason, you know. Basically they were hard working decent people that did seem to love the US. I'm not ready to start shooting these people as they attempt to cross the border so I don't know what the heck can be done about this problem.

 

[jamesrage]

Well how the heck do you know what to call the people parading in the street? Some of them could be immigrants. Some of them might be legal. To say it's an illegal alien parade protest might not be factual.

Everyone of those people are either illegal aliens or illegal alien supporters.They did not come out in massive hordes to blatently out in the open to spit on our laws until congress proposed making it felony to invade our country like filthy disgusting sewer rat.So yes it is a illegal alien parade.INS and the national guard should be rounding them up and deporting their asses back to their country of origin.

What's interesting is that immigration officers aren't in attendance to sort out the facts. Then we'd have a better idea about who exactly those people in the streets are.

We know who these people are,they are either illegal aliens or illegal alien supporters.

I don't know what the heck to do about illegal aliens crossing the border

Make life hell for illegal aliens here.Make impossible for them to live and work here,fine and imprison those who help them.Deport every illegal reguardless if the have an achor baby and change the 14th amendment to get rid of the clause that allows anchor babies.

. I feel bad for them but I also don't like the fact that they are a drain on our economy and they fill schools with kids that don't speak Engllish.

I do not feel bad for them,they are criminals.

I saw one guy on TV that said people in the US don't call themselves United Statesians......they call themselves Americans and he has as much right to that label as anyone else, Si! I thought that was pretty funny. I saw another guy who claimed that no terrorists are named Juan Garcia or Rodriquez. He's got a point too and I thought that was funny.

I find it funny when they say they are not criminals.

They also interviewed a women who said her whole family is here illegally except her son who was made an automatic citizen when he went to go fight in Iraq! Clearly you can't send them back to Mexico can you?

Deport them back to where they came from.

Making all the illegals citizens only encourages more Mexicans to cross the border in the hopes that one day they'll get amnesty too.

You are correct

I really believe we should push the Mexican government to fix their country up. There's tons of beach front property in Mexico but noone wants to buy it? Why? Cause you can't. It's not for sale....it's for lease. Only the government is corrupt and so they set you up with a lease for 99 years and then they turn around in 3 years and say the lease is no longer valid. If they could somehow put an end to that rot then maybe people would buy beach front property in Mexico and boost that economy a bit. Have you ever been to TJ? I'd be illegally crawling my way into the US if I was born there too. That's why I don't know what the heck should be done.

Amazing how Mexico discourages illegal aliens from entering their country but they encourage them to enter ours.

I know there's alot of talk about these Mexicans that want to take back California and make it part of Mexcio or some such crap. But I lived in San Diego for many years and knew alot of Mexicans. They left Mexico and none of the ones I knew had any intention of turning the Southern US into Mexico. They left Mexico for a reason, you know. Basically they were hard working decent people that did seem to love the US. I'm not ready to start shooting these people as they attempt to cross the border so I don't know what the heck can be done about this problem.

I think that anyone crossing illegal should be shot with a 50 cal sniper rifle.After several dozen are shot the rest will maybe consider the legal option of enter the US.

 

[GH0STce11]

I've noticed it all my life. Thank God we have the internet and cable TV for the facts and the truth.

Aaaamen!!!

 

[scottyz]

Who do you think cleans their houses and mows their lawns?

 

[jamesrage]

Who do you think cleans their houses and mows their lawns?

Good point.If it became a felony to hire illegals,I bet most politicians and media personell would proably be brought up on charges.

 

[hipsterdufus]

Who do you think cleans their houses and mows their lawns?

...and raises their kids.

 

[nopartytravis]

This whole debate is over-simplified, I guess becuase everyone who's participating thinks very similarly, but these illegals are here due to lack of enforcement of existing laws and from the businesses in our country that allow them to work. They are not rats, but people who want something decent for themselves and their families. Can you blame them for not wanting to go back? I'm glad the media doesn't paint them as lawbreaking freedom hating tax money evading rats. I'm also glad that our law enforcement doesn't kill others for seeking a better economic situation. Those to blame are "your" very government that gives them rights under the 5th and 14th amendments. Many have lived and worked here for years and have kids and are just like you except you had the great priviledge of being born in the US. You weren't choose by God, it's not because you're better, it's because you're lucky. It wasn't so long ago that other immigrants were treated like dirt, too. We now just call them Americans and owe a great deal of the building of our infrastructure to them. I know you guys who just hate these people can't relate for whatever reason, but those that are here should be treated with respect. The just wanted a very little piece of the pie, and some of you are willing to shot them in the back just to have a bigger slice for your selves (at least in your mind...I guess there's just not enough agribusiness jobs or freedom to go around). I think you guys are xenophobs and a bit harsh in your treatment of people who want to work for what you were just handed by your birth. The media would have called them illegals the whole time if they were treated that way. They haven't been for quite sometime (by our employers or government) and now they are engauge in an immigrants rights struggle to stay. Seems like the only rational thing to do when your only other option, especially from this forums point of view, is go back to Mexico with 12 million of your countrymen to face a corrupt, failing government and economy.

 

[massive_attack]

Ya I feel ya on that (to the OP).

One of the things that gets me is guess what, you broke the law. Do the crime do the time. I broke the law and spent the night in jail for it and I wasn't even border jumping !! I don't think these peolpe should get a free pass but we obviously can't deport them all or send them all through our already clogged court/jail/prison system.

I'd like to see them pay a $3,000 fine or something.

Plus it's not fair to all those to take the legal route.

Not fair I tell you, not fair at all.

 

[Spade]

I firmly believe that America cannot succeed without the steady flow of immigrants that it has been given the luxury of for 150 years. The story is often told of the German immigrants who came to America shortly before the civil war. It was their blood that preserved the union. These sons of Germany became U.S. citizens and their grandsons and great grandsons stopped Hitler, themselves the very examples of his "master race."

The United States cannot exist without immigrants, but at the same time it is a travesty to let them in illegally. Just because their country rubs up against ours doesn't exempt them from the paperwork.

So, all of that probably sounds like a mixed message, but to conclude: The immigrants I want are the ones who are willing to go through the naturalization process. It isn't a free ride, but it is designed that way to filter out the criminals.

 

[jamesrage]

This whole debate is over-simplified, I guess becuase everyone who's participating thinks very similarly, but these illegals are here due to lack of enforcement of existing laws and from the businesses in our country that allow them to work.

THe problems is that even if current laws are enforaced they are just a fine.One of the things I have learned is that people are willing to pay fines if it allows them some convience.
Those that hire,house and or do business with illegals should be tossed in prison,loose their property and business and and futer ability to own or operate a business so that when laws are actually enforced the punishments are actually something to fear.

 

[nopartytravis]

The reason they are here is for jobs. If it's illegal to hire illegal immigrants, and those laws are enforced, then I doubt anyone whose here for a job will stay, and I doubt others will be tempted to enter, where no employment can be found. If they can't be hired they won't come or stay...

 

[LeftyHenry]

Good point.If it became a felony to hire illegals,I bet most politicians and media personell would proably be brought up on charges.

Along with half the country!

 

[Tashah]

Multiculturalism is a liberal agenda and the liberal (mainstream) media does indeed go out of its way to portray illegal immigrants as innocent victims of circumstance.

 

[LeftyHenry]

Multiculturalism is a liberal agenda and the liberal (mainstream) media does indeed go out of its way to portray illegal immigrants as innocent victims of circumstance.

liberal media lol. Look at Fox. Than look at the countless times news channals have covered up for the bush administartion.

 

[Tashah]

liberal media lol. Look at Fox. Than look at the countless times news channals have covered up for the bush administartion.

All you can come up with is Fox? Lol.
Try ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, and most big city news rags.

They cover up for the Bush admin? Lmao.
Look at his ratings. They pound on him day and night.
Are you sure you live in NYC?

 

[LeftyHenry]

NONE of those channals are biased. None so blatently sponsor a party like FOX does. The only thing that those channals do are place the facts on the table good and bad. Fox places only the good.

 

[Tashah]

NONE of those channals are biased. None so blatently sponsor a party like FOX does. The only thing that those channals do are place the facts on the table good and bad. Fox places only the good.

Get real Che. Either you are terribly naïve or sensory challenged. They launder and bias almost everything they place on the table. That is a major reason why the tv and circulation ratings of American mainstream media keep sliding downward... intelligent people now go elsewhere to get their news without the inherent bias. Thank God for satellite dishes and the Internet.

 

[vexati0n]

Of course, anything that makes the president look bad must be a liberal conspiracy. It's not like anything people say about him is true. And he isn't really a chimp with Downs Syndrome like CBS says he is, at least that's what I heard they said, I wouldn't actually know, I don't watch CBS because if I did I might actually learn something I wouldn't get at a White House press conference.

Liberals are all over the place. They're even subverting half the Republican party with all their nonsense. Liberal conspiracies everywhere. Treating those illegal dogs like they're genetically compatible with the human race, even. When is enough enough? If my great grampa saw the sad state of affairs in this country, he'd deport the illegals AND the media. And then he wouldn't have to be ashamed to wear that pointy white sheet on his head.

It's time to end the centuries-long Liberal tradition of being a nation of immigrants, and get back to where the founding fathers wanted us to be. Or at least get back to where I'm reasonably sure they would have wanted us to be if they had a choice. Every single one of the Founding Fathers was white, you know. So they intended for this to be a white country.