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It seems a few people in the pro-gun community think there are no pro-gun democrats or liberals. That idea has no basis in reality. one reason why it is hard to even get tighter background checks to keep criminals and crazuies from getting guns while allowing law abiding citizens to do so is because there is support for the pro-gun crowd on the democrat and liberal side. To tell the truth real liberals would be in favor of allowing people to enjoy gun ownership in a responsible way. Yes, i know the word liberal has been perverted sort of like how libertarian has been perverted off it's meaning.
I see the views of gun ownership straying further and further from freedoms for responsible people to a partisan rallying point which seems to put dems and libs into the enemy camp. Really, if the right is so pure it should not be a partisan issue, and if it is that important putting the other side into the enemy camp rather than making things bipartisan seems to be self defeating. That is especially considering the present status of the republicans. One should want democrat support instead of making them the enemy because faux news and partisan hacks say you have to. If dems and libs were on your side instead of being declared the enemy and pissed off by the rhetoric they might actually give a damn about your rights. Instead insults are lobbed at the dems and libs which realluy turns most people off or angers them even if they might normally be open to the issue.
For instance let us say you don't own a gun nor want to, but perhaps uyou would not care that someone else does. Next thing you know you have some NRA twat coming up and insulting you and trying their hardest to set you against them and play the victim game. Lots of people who are out there simply will stop caring about your so called rights and just let them be voted away. One of the reasons the gay community has made progress is because many of them are nice people with reasonable requests for things like a marriage contract. the more people meet the gay community and realize most of them are respectable and pleasant people the more they are concerned with their oppression. There is no gay equivelant of a Ted nugent who just pisses people off and does more to aid the opposition than to get people to join his side. How many gay supremists do you know?
gun owners are sort of like gays. Most of them you don't know are out there because it is not something obvious. Anyone could be a gun owner. however, when they have public rallies and actually show themselves in public it normally drags out the crap in the community. Plus it is often a negative consequence when a gun owner makes the news because killing is often considered the extreme. This partisan fighting is very anti-productive for gun owners. It just contributes to the negative image of gun owners while the positive members are often overlooked simply because it is human nature to not be too bothered to think about gun ownership when confronted with a non-hostile pleasant and responsible person. It simply does not matter that person owns a gun.
Some people in the community need to calm themselves down and stop making fights about issues that have nothing to do with your gun ownership. get it out of the partisan hackery. Stop playing the victim and setting neutral or even supporting people on the offense against you.
I see the views of gun ownership straying further and further from freedoms for responsible people to a partisan rallying point which seems to put dems and libs into the enemy camp. Really, if the right is so pure it should not be a partisan issue, and if it is that important putting the other side into the enemy camp rather than making things bipartisan seems to be self defeating. That is especially considering the present status of the republicans. One should want democrat support instead of making them the enemy because faux news and partisan hacks say you have to. If dems and libs were on your side instead of being declared the enemy and pissed off by the rhetoric they might actually give a damn about your rights. Instead insults are lobbed at the dems and libs which realluy turns most people off or angers them even if they might normally be open to the issue.
For instance let us say you don't own a gun nor want to, but perhaps uyou would not care that someone else does. Next thing you know you have some NRA twat coming up and insulting you and trying their hardest to set you against them and play the victim game. Lots of people who are out there simply will stop caring about your so called rights and just let them be voted away. One of the reasons the gay community has made progress is because many of them are nice people with reasonable requests for things like a marriage contract. the more people meet the gay community and realize most of them are respectable and pleasant people the more they are concerned with their oppression. There is no gay equivelant of a Ted nugent who just pisses people off and does more to aid the opposition than to get people to join his side. How many gay supremists do you know?
gun owners are sort of like gays. Most of them you don't know are out there because it is not something obvious. Anyone could be a gun owner. however, when they have public rallies and actually show themselves in public it normally drags out the crap in the community. Plus it is often a negative consequence when a gun owner makes the news because killing is often considered the extreme. This partisan fighting is very anti-productive for gun owners. It just contributes to the negative image of gun owners while the positive members are often overlooked simply because it is human nature to not be too bothered to think about gun ownership when confronted with a non-hostile pleasant and responsible person. It simply does not matter that person owns a gun.
Some people in the community need to calm themselves down and stop making fights about issues that have nothing to do with your gun ownership. get it out of the partisan hackery. Stop playing the victim and setting neutral or even supporting people on the offense against you.