Is Ronald Reagan still the best all-time President?[W:373]

[skq]

What do you think?

 

[upsideguy]

What do you think?

Still? I don't think there is a single expert (political science or history professor) that would tell you he ever was....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

Though most would tell you he was better than average to pretty good.

 

[Kobie]

Still?

 

[skq]

Still? I don't think there is a single expert (political science or history professor) that would tell you he ever was....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

Though most would tell you he was better than average to pretty good.

Okay, but he is the most popular President after World War II, that's crucial.

 

[Kobie]

Okay, but he is the most popular President after World War II, that's crucial.

By what metric? JFK is post-WWII and he might be the second-most popular president ever after Lincoln.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

Theodore Roosevelt, Kennedy, Jefferson, and Washington are some of my personal favorites, in no particular order. I am largely indifferent to Raegan but leaning toward disapproving, mostly due to foreign policy and military spending. While I think the USSR would probably still be around if Raegan had not spent it to death, I don't think our current situation in the Middle East is any better.

 

[RetiredUSN]

Reagan would be about 5th or 6th on my list.

1. Washington
2. Lincoln
3. FDR
4. Teddy
5. Truman

 

[Kobie]

Theodore Roosevelt, Kennedy, Jefferson, and Washington are some of my personal favorites, in no particular order. I am largely indifferent to Raegan but leaning toward disapproving, mostly due to foreign policy and military spending. While I think the USSR would probably still be around if Raegan had not spent it to death, I don't think our current situation in the Middle East is any better.

The USSR was doomed to fail once Gorbachev took over. Glasnost accelerated the fall of the USSR more than any foreign influence.

 

[shrubnose]

Reagan has never been the best all-time-president.

It's generally agreed that Abraham Lincoln holds that position.

If you have evidence to the contrary let's see it.

 

[shrubnose]

What do you think?

I'd put him somewhere in the middle, about where Obama will come in.

 

[joG]

What do you think?

What color jellybeans did he like best?

 

[jamesrage]

What do you think?

Nope. HE and the first Bush sucked the testicles of the illegal alien lobby and as a result of the Reagan amnesty our illegal immigration problem quadrupled. He also wiped his ass with the 2nd amendment.There is also Iran contra and I am sure if we looked even further into Reagan there are a lot of other bad **** as well. I am sick of conservatives acting as though Reagan is somehow republican Jesus.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

The USSR was doomed to fail once Gorbachev took over. Glasnost accelerated the fall of the USSR more than any foreign influence.

It's possible that Gorbachev wouldn't have taken over without Raegan influencing Russian politics. I don't know enough about USSR politics to say one way or another, so I haven't made a call on it.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

What color jellybeans did he like best?

He made his own jelly beans, jelly beans that were red, white, and blue. They also had the Presidential seal hand-engraved into them (by Raegan himself, of course).

 

[joG]

He made his own jelly beans, jelly beans that were red, white, and blue. They also had the Presidential seal hand-engraved into them (by Raegan himself, of course).

A colorful use of his time. He was an artist at heart, not shirking the duty, toil and trouble of the world, however!

Good we talked about it.

 

[Frank Apisa]

I suggest that Ronald Reagan did more to damage this nation...than he ever did as a positive. His "government is not the solution, government is the problem" is one of the worst comments any president has ever made to the people...and, in my opinion, the most damaging.

 

[truthatallcost]

No, George Washington is.

 

[truthatallcost]

I suggest that Ronald Reagan did more to damage this nation...than he ever did as a positive. His "government is not the solution, government is the problem" is one of the worst comments any president has ever made to the people...and, in my opinion, the most damaging.

Government is not the solution. People are.

 

[Frank Apisa]

Government is not the solution. People are.

Government IS NOT the problem.

And Ronald Reagan is FAR from one of the better presidents.

 

[truthatallcost]

Government IS NOT the problem.

And Ronald Reagan is FAR from one of the better presidents.

What is the problem?

 

[Dragonfly]

What do you think?

I'm thinkin' this thread didn't quite turn out like you thought it would. :lamo

 

[haymarket]

The GREAT PRESIDENTS are the same as they have been for the past seventy years.... FDR .... Lincoln ..... Washington.

 

[German guy]

I'm not American and know too few about most of the older Presidents to be able to competently give any kind of ranking.

Guess I could say, though, that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson in particular, wrote quite a few rather groundbreaking things about the theory and reality of constitutional republics, which is still basic knowledge today and inspired the fathers of many later Western republican constitutions. For example, I'm sure that the fathers of the German Grundgesetz (1949 Constitution) took more than a cursory glance into their writings.

And I wonder how much sense a ranking makes anyway. Probably many were good on one field or one decision, but not so good or even very bad on another ... hard to break that down to one single number. And different situations require different skills. Maybe some were really great presidents, but didn't face challenges that would have allowed to prove it ... and others were poor presidents, but a lack of true challenges allowed them to conceal that.

 

[tres borrachos]

I don't know if Reagan was the best President of all time, but I do know he was the best President of my lifetime.

 

[American]

The USSR was doomed to fail once Gorbachev took over. Glasnost accelerated the fall of the USSR more than any foreign influence.

Are you really going to sit there and try to hollow out what Reagan did. He showed fortitude against the USSR, and there is no denying that. Hating rightwing presidents isn't going to change it. If you wait long enough for anything socialist it'll be doomed to fail. Reagan accelerated it greatly, by forcing them to try and keep up. They couldn't, they failed. End of story.