In 2016, Obama’s last year the debt grew by $1.4 trillion. That is not debatable.
That's also also TOTALLY irrelevant, and you know it. You said that Obamacare was responsible for much of the debt growth. Let me know when you can prove that, or (at least) just admit that you were making that up.
There are many who disagree with you in that the ACA did in fact add to the debt by rising premiums for people that were either partially or fully subsidized by the government.
No, there are not. You will have a very hard time finding ANY non-partisan analysis that credits the ACA for adding the debt at ANY point in it's existence (i.e. since 2010). From the CBO, to Kaiser (the gold standard for non-partisan health care economics), to various bipartisan economic analyses, there are almost no credible economists out there claiming the ACA increased deficits (and the debt). All agree that the ACA reduced the deficit, drastically reduced the number of uninsured Americans, and drastically reduced the number of people filing for bankruptcy due to medical bills.
But, more importantly, you argued that the ACA was responsible for debt increases under Obama; and there is simply ZERO objective evidence of that. Let's not start moving the goalposts, please.
You are also talking about two different things. Debt and deficit. Deficit is a measure of the budget, and debt is the gross national debt. So your claim that the deficit was reduced, is true, but it has nothing to do with the national debt.
Thank you, but I am very well aware of the difference between the deficit and the debt. That's not your argument. You are claiming that the ACA increased the debt. There is no evidence of that. In fact, we KNOW that the ACA was revenue positive (as almost all health care economist always predicted) between 2010 and 2018, and thus helped REDUCE deficits.
The bean counters in DC use all kinds of schemes to hide deficit, like borrowing from the SS fund, but they can’t hide the overall debt it is what it is.
There are no schemes involved here. Only conservative conspiracy theories. The ACA reduced deficits every year of its existence. That is not arguable.
Bottom line is this: I said that the the debt grew $8.6 trillion under Obama vs. $1.8 trillion under Reagan. That is not debatable. You can spin it however you want but it is what it is.
LOL, nice Strawman argument, there. You're deflecting. Look, you can't spin...and then accuse me of spinning. That's not going to work with me. No one is claiming the debt didn't grow under Obama. So why would you keep pushing that Strawman argument? The FACT here is that the US economy is much,much larger today than it was between 1981 and 1989, when Reagan was in office. Surely you understand that, don't you? If so, then you also understand why it's so foolish (if not disingenuous) to use raw debt numbers, rather than debt as a percentage of GDP when doing a "debt by president" comparison. So, the FACT is that Reagan increased the debt almost 2.5 times (debt to gdp) during his 8 years, than Obama did between 2009 and 2016. And Reagan did that while inheriting a growing economy from Jimmy Carter, while Obama was tasked with LITERALLY saving the entire economy from the Bush Recession.
As for last piece of drivel there, liberals hate trump because he is not afraid to call them out. They want so bad for him to be guilty of something, but damn, there is just no there there. It’s funny to watch.
LOL, liberals "hate" people and policies motivated by hatred, fear, ignorance and bigotry. That's really about it. Trump supporters are free to believe that opposing hate is equivalent to promoting hate. In fact, I expect nothing more from them, than just that. It's part of the mentality that allows people to accept Trump's alt-right/white nationalist message. But I don't think most people are very concerned with what amuses Trump's angry, brainwashed minions. A sizable majority of Americans see that he's a clown and a criminal....and, very possibly, beholden to a hostile foreign government, even if the 35% of you don't.