Is it two faced of the US to be against abortion but pro war?

[RightOfCenter]

Probably,

Probably? There are probably people sneaking into the US?

but people are also sneaking into Europe. This however is different from countries wanting to join the EU, even countries that are not in Europe.

Different how? Won't immigrants to EU countries have the same benefits if their countries join the EU? Immigration just assures that they won't have to wait.

 

[Hatuey]

Thats 4€ for you then. I was born in France,one of my parents were French, The other parent was Norwegian. I grew up in Norway, lived there until I was 18 then moved to lovely Amsterdam and from there moved around all Europe, still moving around. So I consider myself a free roamer of Europe, first European then French and Norwegian.

Where is your autobiography?

:rofl :rofl HAHAHAHAHAHA Wait I gotta call GySgt. I'm an American my friend. In China, Belgium and anywhere else I might travel I'm an American. Proud to display my country's flag anywhere I go unashamed of my roots and the history of my country.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Probably? There are probably people sneaking into the US?



Different how? Won't immigrants to EU countries have the same benefits if their countries join the EU? Immigration just assures that they won't have to wait.

PROBABLY because the US is so wonderful, the reason they immigrate to the US.

They immigrate to the EU also, thats no different. The different thing here as I said and will repeat is that whole NATIONS/COUNTRIES wants to join the EU, mny of them not evne located in Europe. Thats very different from immigration, its called INTEGRATION.

 

[Hatuey]

PROBABLY because the US is so wonderful, the reason they immigrate to the US.

They immigrate to the EU also, thats no different. The different thing here as I said and will repeat is that whole NATIONS/COUNTRIES wants to join the EU, mny of them not evne located in Europe. Thats very different from immigration, its called INTEGRATION.

....show me one report of a country outside of Europe who wants to join the EU? :|

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

:rofl :rofl HAHAHAHAHAHA Wait I gotta call GySgt. I'm an American my friend. In China, Belgium and anywhere else I might travel I'm an American. Proud to display my country's flag anywhere I go unashamed of my roots and the history of my country.

Ive actually said in several posts that I am French/Norwegian. But as I said I am not nationalist, just a human being, probably more of a humanist than anything else. I am a human living on this planet with other humans, thats what matters, not stupid borders and flags. I do however consider myself European, since I am from two different European countries, and live and travel around all of Europe. And yes, I am very proud of all my heritage. I am no nationalist, I dont even speak well French, but I can easily admit French people come of as far more intelligent than Americans.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

....show me one report of a country outside of Europe who wants to join the EU? :|

"Morocco

Morocco submitted an application to join the EU (then EEC) in July 1987, but it was turned down by the Council later in the year. The application was rejected on the grounds that it did not consider Morocco a European country. Although there are factors such as the developing economy or unresolved border issues with several of its neighbours and the occupation of Western Sahara, a European Union Association Agreement similar to that applied to Tunisia and Algeria is implemented between Morocco and the EU."

"The principle of Israel joining the European Union has been supported by politicians in both Israel and Europe, including the former Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom[49] and the former Italian Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi[50] Two Italian MEPs are currently campaigning in favour of Israeli membership.[51] An opinion poll in 2004 showed that 85% of Israelis would support an application for membership.[52]

The Israeli government has hinted several times that an EU membership bid is a possibility, but the EU itself proposes instead the closest possible integration "just short of full membership." Faster advancement of such plans is somewhat hampered by the current instability in the Middle East. Much international criticism of the occupation of the Palestinian territories also comes from European capitals. European public opinion of Israel is poor."

"Dependencies of EU member states

There are multiple Special member state territories, some of them are not fully covered by the EU treaties and apply EU law only partially, if at all. See also the territories not covered by the Schengen treaty. It is possible for a dependency to change its status regarding the EU and/or some particular treaty or law provision. The territory may change its status from participation to leaving or from being outside to joining."

Then we have, Georgia, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Azerbajan, who all wants to become EU members.
There have even been theories about Canada and Russia joining, and there are widespread belief that former Commonwealth nations, and current commonwealth nations wants/could join"

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

The US is having this debate about abortion, they are "pro-life" mostly *** they like to call it, this include president Bush. Yet this man is pro war, and has slaughtered more people i his presidency than a "pro-life" abortion law would have saved lifes in decades. I can with a strong certainty say that alot of the people who are "pro-life" is also for the Iraq war. Is this two-faced hypocrisy by the US president and his supporters?

There are appx 1 million abortions in the U.S. per year, the Iraqi death toll is not over 70 thousand and that's a liberal estimate, so WTF are you talking about?

 

[Flea]

Originally Posted by J_Utah
Just another ridiculous comment by Maximus that he will not address ...All hate and no facts

Yeah, that! Man, what is your beef? Do you actually have a point? All your rhetoric is argumentative "finger pointing" and not "solution oriented".

 

[Flea]

Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra
Morocco, Georgia, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Azerbajan, who all wants to become EU members.

A bunch of developing nations hoping to get into the EU? So what? It is only logical for them to do so.

Just as Mexico and Canada have NAFTA with the USA and
Just as Central America wants CAFTA wtih the USA.

You don't really have much of a point with what you are saying, you are just trying to paint you good and us bad and that is really weak. :2razz:

You are French. That is where you were born and that is what you are, FRENCH. And as a Frenchman, you can admit that the French are far more Intelligent than Americans? :lol: :doh Gee! Really?

I am American even though my mother was born in England and my father was born in Canada. I am American even though I have traveled all over Canada, the USA and Europe and Speak English fluently and a lot of French and Spanish and a little teeny bit of German.

 

[Hatuey]

Ive actually said in several posts that I am French/Norwegian. But as I said I am not nationalist, just a human being, probably more of a humanist than anything else. I am a human living on this planet with other humans, thats what matters, not stupid borders and flags. I do however consider myself European, since I am from two different European countries, and live and travel around all of Europe. And yes, I am very proud of all my heritage. I am no nationalist, I dont even speak well French, but I can easily admit French people come of as far more intelligent than Americans.

Yup if the french were so smart they wouldn't have needed us in WWII. If it wasn't for us all you "geniuses" would be speaking German right now. Game over? I think so.

 

[conserv.pat15]

Once again Maximus Zeebra, is your main language German?

 

[Hatuey]

Once again Maximus Zeebra, is your main language German?

He's French.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Ive actually said in several posts that I am French/Norwegian. But as I said I am not nationalist, just a human being, probably more of a humanist than anything else. I am a human living on this planet with other humans, thats what matters, not stupid borders and flags.

Sounds more like a Marxist to me.

I do however consider myself European, since I am from two different European countries, and live and travel around all of Europe. And yes, I am very proud of all my heritage. I am no nationalist, I dont even speak well French, but I can easily admit French people come of as far more intelligent than Americans.

Ya tell me how that whole socialism thing is working out in France today, oh ya 10% unemployment, stagnant GDP, and riots in the streets, ya those French are ****ing brilliant. :roll:

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

3200 American soldiers, 3200 Soldiers, good kids, died as a consequence od Bush political decision. At least a 100000 Iraqies have died because of the Bush administration. they are bathing in blood, they are mass murders.

Ya and that Saddam was a real stand up guy wasn't he? Correct me if I'm wrong but I sure as hell didn't hear anything from the French during his reign of terror and mass murder . . . oh! that's right, the French were to busy selling him armaments seconded only by the Soviet Union in quantity, not to mention they were profiting off of Saddam building palaces while his people starved by means of entering with him into back door oil treaties, but hay you go right ahead and keep on blaming America for liberating a country from a genocidal tyrant that your country supported and continued to support right on up to March 19, 2003, have fun with that Bambi.

 

[RightOfCenter]

Sounds more like a Marxist to me.



Ya tell me how that whole socialism thing is working out in France today, oh ya 10% unemployment, stagnant GDP, and riots in the streets, ya those French are ****ing brilliant. :roll:

Hasn't Urethra told you? That's because of their "conservative" government.

 

[Sammy2]

The French covertly helped build Saddam's underground sanctuary (not the hole he was caught in).

The French were also "giving" enough to Saddam that the French got discounted oil.

To the liberals who doubt...look it up...and don't stop your research at Bill Maher's or Jon Stewart's websites...or Rosie's or the other fat chick on "The View".

How do you all NOT acknowledge these facts? Seriously? How do you NOT?

Norway? Well let's start talking about the Vikings and what the hell that country is all about...historically....

Good grief. There is a REASON that people fled Europe. Socialism is good if you're a lazy "gimmie-gimmie b/c I'm entitled " type of a person. Apparently it hasn't changed. And that is NOT what America was built on. Unfortunately that's what America has become thanks to the lazy class who vote democratic. The "entitled class".

All I have to say to the French is take a freaking shower or at least use deodorent in between days designated for bathing. And if you don't know what I mean you haven't been to France in a while or you don't know anyone who recently legally immigrated from France or you really aren't French.

 

[BodiSatva]

Maxi-bra

Why bother? You are so boring...

You just make **** up and then flee just like a Frenchy in 1939... :lol:

 

[conserv.pat15]

He's French.

LOL, I can tell.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Sounds more like a Marxist to me.



Ya tell me how that whole socialism thing is working out in France today, oh ya 10% unemployment, stagnant GDP, and riots in the streets, ya those French are ****ing brilliant. :roll:

I can also say for certain that French peoples level of happiness is much higher than in the US. At least French people dont have to spend their whole days, year, and life working, they can actually do other things as well. You dont know how incredibly nice a 35 hour week is until you have tried both a 40 hour week and a 35 hour week. I bet YOU have tried none of those, I have tried both, and 37.5 hour week. Its a HUGE difference.
Whats the point with living if all you do is working? IN France its as easy and cheap to start a business, but the corporate taxes are too high. If France were to lower those, and rise the workweek, French GDP would match that of the US in no time.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Ya and that Saddam was a real stand up guy wasn't he? Correct me if I'm wrong but I sure as hell didn't hear anything from the French during his reign of terror and mass murder . . . oh! that's right, the French were to busy selling him armaments seconded only by the Soviet Union in quantity, not to mention they were profiting off of Saddam building palaces while his people starved by means of entering with him into back door oil treaties, but hay you go right ahead and keep on blaming America for liberating a country from a genocidal tyrant that your country supported and continued to support right on up to March 19, 2003, have fun with that Bambi.

Yes, he was, he killed/was responsible for less peoples deaths, in his political career than George W. Bush for example.

Whats wrong with selling weapons? The US sold him weapons as well, not so much but they did. The US is the top seller of weapons around the world, and they sell those to just about anyone.
America liberated the country from a bad man, yes, maybe someone should invade the US and liberate it from their current administration? Iraq is much worse of right now than they were before the war, but according to GySgt, this doesnt matter as long as Saddam is gone.
France isnt really MY COUNTRY, Ive lived there for about 2 years of my life, and speak very shabby French. First and foremost I consider myself European, secondly French/Norwegian. This however doesnt mean that I am not very pround of France, because its delicious country that come of as Albert Einstein in meeting with a retarded bully kid when it meets the US in any way.

Its just no contest, France is just incredibly much better than the US, the living in France is chill, and guess what, they are still rich, and guess what,the country is in the center of the world and they enjoy enourmous amounts of respect around the world judging by world opinions, while the US enjoy lower respect than North Korea, but higher than Israel and Iran.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

The French covertly helped build Saddam's underground sanctuary (not the hole he was caught in).

The French were also "giving" enough to Saddam that the French got discounted oil.

To the liberals who doubt...look it up...and don't stop your research at Bill Maher's or Jon Stewart's websites...or Rosie's or the other fat chick on "The View".

How do you all NOT acknowledge these facts? Seriously? How do you NOT?

Norway? Well let's start talking about the Vikings and what the hell that country is all about...historically....

Good grief. There is a REASON that people fled Europe. Socialism is good if you're a lazy "gimmie-gimmie b/c I'm entitled " type of a person. Apparently it hasn't changed. And that is NOT what America was built on. Unfortunately that's what America has become thanks to the lazy class who vote democratic. The "entitled class".

All I have to say to the French is take a freaking shower or at least use deodorent in between days designated for bathing. And if you don't know what I mean you haven't been to France in a while or you don't know anyone who recently legally immigrated from France or you really aren't French.

So what? Are the French not allowed to do business? The US has done far worse things than selling Saddam weapons. If French got discount oil, I would say their business with Iraq was very successfull. There is no "gimme gimme" attitude in France, but like in the US, France also have people who cannot manage themself, people who need help, the only difference is that France help those people while the US let them rot and live miserable lifes. Lifes of crime, life on the streets etc. Just to let you know, France have homeless people as well, so its not like France is forcing anyone to accept welfare.

Yeah, old deodorant joke, hah how funny when all the deodorants the people in the US use is French, all the hygiene products are made in France. You are the ones who havent been to France buddy, then you would know that joke is an old world war 2 joke from when France were drained of supply of anything because of the German invasion.
French people smell alot better than people from the US, at least French people know how to doze their huygiene products and know what kind of stuff to use so they dont smell like a perfume store 50 meters away.

And yeah, just so you know and dont misunderstand, French women dont have hairs under their arms, they shave them away just like US chicks. The only difference between Paris and any US city is about 20 pound average, whereas the ladies of Paris are also sofisticated and have a brain of their own not only thinking about how much deodorant to put on. And to be completely honest, women in Paris are about the sexiest women you find on this globe.

US women are usually classless, simple minded, fat and/or just ugly.

 

[DeeJayH]

I can also say for certain that French peoples level of happiness is much higher than in the US. At least French people dont have to spend their whole days, year, and life working, they can actually do other things as well. You dont know how incredibly nice a 35 hour week is until you have tried both a 40 hour week and a 35 hour week. I bet YOU have tried none of those, I have tried both, and 37.5 hour week. Its a HUGE difference.
Whats the point with living if all you do is working? IN France its as easy and cheap to start a business, but the corporate taxes are too high. If France were to lower those, and rise the workweek, French GDP would match that of the US in no time.

I work up to 80 hours a week
BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO
Because I am building a business
and every two months I take about a weeks vacation
all your post proves is that the french are lazy shiftless SOBs, and if the EU follows suit, it will fall, from within

 

[MSgt]

At least my countries are not loosing their freedom like the US. Thats just up to you guys, if you want to keep going down this road, thats up to you. This just makes it more certain that faster than ever Europe will lead the world, like a majority of the world population WANTS to happen.

You know how many countries outside Europe that wants to become a member states? Countries are basically standing in line hoping for the impossible, just because what they COULD gain is so fantastic.

European fantasies always bring a smile to my face. It's sort of liking tossing a biscuit to the poodle that keeps barking at the Doberman. She's so loud and annoying, but also so cute and harmless.

Like I keep telling you and showing you with historical substance and present day substance, and like you will one day become depressed over, the EU is going to dissapoint internally and externally. Any European organization that is led by France or Germany will never seek freedom for others, because freedom in Europe has never meant freedom for others. And the only power a unifying organization in Europe ever had was when it employed the church or dictatorship. And given the rising Muslim populations that no longer want to be assimilated anymore than their host nations (France/Germany) want them assimilated, and given Europe's history for not behaving well under pressure, the EU is bound for extreme civil unrest for which Americans may have to intervene to save Muslims from European wrath.

I was born in France,one of my parents were French, The other parent was Norwegian. I grew up in Norway, lived there until I was 18 then moved to lovely Amsterdam and from there moved around all Europe, still moving around. So I consider myself a free roamer of Europe, first European then French and Norwegian.

First European? This smacks of a diminished pride in country. With so many countries to choose from, you instead opt to be a citizen of the "EU." Citizens of China claim to be Chinese. Citizens of South Africa claim to be South African (not a citizen of the AU). But, Maximus declares himself a citizen of an organization. If you are from France or Norway, then find some pride in it and stop running around Europe pinning all your hopes and dreams in an organization that will eventually dissapoint. It will never be the force for good you think. It will always be primarily concerned with internal issues only and will not be a force for good on the global stage. Always, it will seek America's lead. This will be so, because the EU merely plasters over the cracks between the many different cultures...like the UN.

 

[DeeJayH]

EU = UN 2.0

another abyssmal failure in the making :doh
lofty idea, but a failure in the end

 

[Flea]

Maximus Zeebra is an Orwellian Nightmare come to life.