Is it two faced of the US to be against abortion but pro war?

[Maximus Zeebra]

The US is having this debate about abortion, they are "pro-life" mostly *** they like to call it, this include president Bush. Yet this man is pro war, and has slaughtered more people i his presidency than a "pro-life" abortion law would have saved lifes in decades. I can with a strong certainty say that alot of the people who are "pro-life" is also for the Iraq war. Is this two-faced hypocrisy by the US president and his supporters?

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

Your poll doesn't leave a lot of room for... well, sensible answers.

Supporting aggressive foreign wars while claiming to be "pro-life" is absolutely inconsistent, I agree, but not every pro-lifer actually supports aggressive foreign wars.

 

[jamesrage]

The US is having this debate about abortion, they are "pro-life" mostly *** they like to call it, this include president Bush. Yet this man is pro war, and has slaughtered more people i his presidency than a "pro-life" abortion law would have saved lifes in decades. I can with a strong certainty say that alot of the people who are "pro-life" is also for the Iraq war. Is this two-faced hypocrisy by the US president and his supporters?

Then is it fair to say the anti-war ******s are pro-genocidal mass murdering dictators and sissies seeing how they think we should not support Saddam and that many of them support ******s like Gandhi?

 

[MSgt]

The US is having this debate about abortion, they are "pro-life" mostly *** they like to call it, this include president Bush. Yet this man is pro war, and has slaughtered more people i his presidency than a "pro-life" abortion law would have saved lifes in decades. I can with a strong certainty say that alot of the people who are "pro-life" is also for the Iraq war. Is this two-faced hypocrisy by the US president and his supporters?

Always looking for an excuse to bash aren't you? Is this the part where I produce for you your own mountain of hypocrisy in Europe as compared to our ant hill and you complain that I'm bashing Europe?

There are no absolutes and all civilizations struggle with what is right and not right for their people. To be otherwise is to live under a dictatorship or religiously inspired oppression. Such is true for foreign diplomacy in a world such as ours as well.

1) Is it hypocritical for Europe to decree themselves as our Global Left moral superior or our self-apponted voices of conscience as it does nothing of substance for black and brown suffering all over the world?

2) Is it hypocritical for Europeans to complain wildly about the American Patriot Act and boasting on our "loss of freedom" as European governments dictates the shop hours of private businesses?

3) Is it hypocritical of the European voices for human attrocity in Iraq as it stood by and watched with crocodile tears Sudan and Rwanda rip itself apart and still stands by while human suffering is occurring under dictators?

Once again, your attempt to bash America falls short. As I have said before, of all the criticisms that people can have about America, the one group of people who should keep their mouths shut are Europeans. We have centuries upon centuries of attrocity to perform before any European can accuse of anything. Until then, any criticism is just plain hypocricy and merely an attempt to validate European shortcomings and historical attrocity.

 

[jfuh]

:roll: Another I hate america thread. Your welcome Max, from the US for cleaning up the dirty work that Europeans started centuries ago. Hell, I'm hardcore prochoice and I completely detest our current executive branch.; but just what the hell does abortion have anything whatsoever to do with the current war?

You support women's rights? Religious freedom? Freedom of speech? Freedom from oppression? Separation of church and state? Democracy? That's what it's come down to today. The Sharia morons want to impose their theocracy onto my/your democracy. We the US are doing something about it, given it's flawed but at least we are addressing it, what are you doing? Running and hiding as if this is somehow related to abortion rights? Get your head out of your ***.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Always looking for an excuse to bash aren't you? Is this the part where I produce for you your own mountain of hypocrisy in Europe as compared to our ant hill and you complain that I'm bashing Europe?

There are no absolutes and all civilizations struggle with what is right and not right for their people. To be otherwise is to live under a dictatorship or religiously inspired oppression. Such is true for foreign diplomacy in a world such as ours as well.

1) Is it hypocritical for Europe to decree themselves as our Global Left moral superior or our self-apponted voices of conscience as it does nothing of substance for black and brown suffering all over the world?

2) Is it hypocritical for Europeans to complain wildly about the American Patriot Act and boasting on our "loss of freedom" as European governments dictates the shop hours of private businesses?

3) Is it hypocritical of the European voices for human attrocity in Iraq as it stood by and watched with crocodile tears Sudan and Rwanda rip itself apart and still stands by while human suffering is occurring under dictators?

Once again, your attempt to bash America falls short. As I have said before, of all the criticisms that people can have about America, the one group of people who should keep their mouths shut are Europeans. We have centuries upon centuries of attrocity to perform before any European can accuse of anything. Until then, any criticism is just plain hypocricy and merely an attempt to validate European shortcomings and historical attrocity.

1) Europe is not left, in the world Europe is center, in America its considered left because in the rest of the world America is considered extreme-right-wing.

2) Businesses in the US also have opening hours. There are shops open 24 hours a day in Europe.

3) I didnt really see Americans doing anything in Rwanda either.

Its not America bashing, its simply the truth, this thread was simply a question, whats "bashing" about asking a question?

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

:roll: Another I hate america thread. Your welcome Max, from the US for cleaning up the dirty work that Europeans started centuries ago. Hell, I'm hardcore prochoice and I completely detest our current executive branch.; but just what the hell does abortion have anything whatsoever to do with the current war?

You support women's rights? Religious freedom? Freedom of speech? Freedom from oppression? Separation of church and state? Democracy? That's what it's come down to today. The Sharia morons want to impose their theocracy onto my/your democracy. We the US are doing something about it, given it's flawed but at least we are addressing it, what are you doing? Running and hiding as if this is somehow related to abortion rights? Get your head out of your ***.

You are blind, how can a question be America bashing? Is it too much for Americans to see themself from another view? Is it bashing to see things from another perspective than an ultra consevative American standpoint?

What abortion have to do with war? Bush is pro-life, right? yet at least 100.000 people died in his Iraq war. Thats related, is shows he is two faced in my opinion. its not bashing, I am just asking you the question, do you also think so?

I support all those things. Women's rights, Religious freedom, Freedom of speech, Freedom from oppression, Separation of church and state and Democracy.

Are you so weak that you are afraid of the "sharia-morons"? I dont give a **** about them, they will never impose anything in Europe, they dont mean ****. I think more Europeans care about helping the worlds poor than creating more terrorism like the UK and the US are busy doing.

 

[Hatuey]

I got a question...who has Bush slaughtered? I mean the only person I know in that administration who even came close to killing somebody is Cheney...but well we all know something is wrong with that fellow...

 

[conserv.pat15]

Maximus Zeebra, what country are you from?

 

[Doremus Jessup]

No it is not, once babies are actually born, most of the same pro-lifers could give two sh!ts about them.

 

[MSgt]

2) Businesses in the US also have opening hours. There are shops open 24 hours a day in Europe.

The American government does not impede upon any American business for its hours of operation. However.........

Ever since the 1950's, shop opening hours in Germany, Austria and Switzerland have been among the most restricted in Europe. Germany's draconian law on opening hours (das Ladenschlussgesetz) ensured that stores remained closed after 1800 on weekdays and 1400 on Saturdays. Shops were allowed to remain open two longer on one Saturday every month, on a day called "the long Saturday" (der lange Samstag).

In June 1996, the German Parliament finally gave in to pressure from both business and consumers and relaxed (das Ladenschlussgesetz). Starting from November 1 that year, shops were allowed to remain open until eight o'clock in the evening on weekdays and until four o'clock on Saturdays. They are only allowed to open later than that on Thursdays when some city centre shops choose to remain open until 20.30. In the weeks leading up to Christmas however, shops can open until 18:00 on Saturdays.Chapter 9.16 Shop opening hours in Germany - Exeter Beginners' German

3) I didnt really see Americans doing anything in Rwanda either.

There was small scale military operations with regards to Rwanda. However, I'm not the one pointing fingers am I? The fact that Europe is so absent from the world would not even be a subject if Europeans didn't enjoy pointing fingers at the U.S. so much. However....

1994
12 Apr - Marines evacuate foreigners from Rwanda.
Chronology of the U.S. Marine Corps

Its not America bashing, its simply the truth, this thread was simply a question, whats "bashing" about asking a question?

It's bashing. How stupid do you want people to be to satisfy your transparency?

 

[BodiSatva]

Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra
The US is having this debate about abortion, they are "pro-life" mostly *** they like to call it, this include president Bush. Yet this man is pro war, and has slaughtered more people i his presidency than a "pro-life" abortion law would have saved lifes in decades. I can with a strong certainty say that alot of the people who are "pro-life" is also for the Iraq war. Is this two-faced hypocrisy by the US president and his supporters?

Translation: I - HATE - AMERICA

 

[jfuh]

You are blind, how can a question be America bashing? Is it too much for Americans to see themself from another view? Is it bashing to see things from another perspective than an ultra consevative American standpoint?

What abortion have to do with war? Bush is pro-life, right? yet at least 100.000 people died in his Iraq war. Thats related, is shows he is two faced in my opinion. its not bashing, I am just asking you the question, do you also think so?

I support all those things. Women's rights, Religious freedom, Freedom of speech, Freedom from oppression, Separation of church and state and Democracy.

Are you so weak that you are afraid of the "sharia-morons"? I dont give a **** about them, they will never impose anything in Europe, they dont mean ****. I think more Europeans care about helping the worlds poor than creating more terrorism like the UK and the US are busy doing.

If this is not a declaration of "I hate america" I don't know what is. Let me know when you're done bashing on us. Bash on Bush all you want, but he does not represent who the rest of us are.

 

[BodiSatva]

I would like to know what country you are from as well, Maximus Zeebra.

It only seems fair for us to know so that we can respond to you with idiotic negative generalizations regarding your country and how that must represent you and all of the people that reside within the country just as you have done to us.

Hey...thanks for letting us know in advance! :2razz:

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Maximus Zeebra, what country are you from?

I am a free state roamer of the European Union.

 

[conserv.pat15]

I am a free state roamer of the European Union.

Is you main language German?

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

I got a question...who has Bush slaughtered? I mean the only person I know in that administration who even came close to killing somebody is Cheney...but well we all know something is wrong with that fellow...

3200 American soldiers, 3200 Soldiers, good kids, died as a consequence od Bush political decision. At least a 100000 Iraqies have died because of the Bush administration. they are bathing in blood, they are mass murders.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

The American government does not impede upon any American business for its hours of operation. However.........






There was small scale military operations with regards to Rwanda. However, I'm not the one pointing fingers am I? The fact that Europe is so absent from the world would not even be a subject if Europeans didn't enjoy pointing fingers at the U.S. so much. However....





It's bashing. How stupid do you want people to be to satisfy your transparency?

No, asking an open question is not bashing. you are just so ultra protectionist of your insane country with your ****ed up killing culture that you see no other sides of the story.

Now thats Bashing, asking a question is not.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Translation: I - HATE - AMERICA

Of course, since you say so dear. It must be since I actually questioned the actions. The Real America haters are people like you who let the president ruin your country while ****ing defending it. Geezes. You defend your country while its ruining the world and compromising peace for war. you defend your countries aggressivness and 600 billion dfollar military budget while the rest of your country is falling apart because of lack of spending. geezes man, you hate America not me, you are the one who dont question anything that is going on. This is not just youi in specific but all you blind conservatives.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

If this is not a declaration of "I hate america" I don't know what is. Let me know when you're done bashing on us. Bash on Bush all you want, but he does not represent who the rest of us are.

Bush I do hate, I would easily kill him if I could. yet most Ameircans and America i general is something I like. Liberals in america I like almost as much as Europeans, while conservatives I dislike almost as much as conservative muslims.

 

[conserv.pat15]

Maximus Zeebra, is your main language German?

 

[DeeJayH]

ptsdkid is schizophrenic
and Maximus is his liberal alter ego
riddle finally solved :mrgreen:

 

[Hatuey]

3200 American soldiers, 3200 Soldiers, good kids, died as a consequence od Bush political decision. At least a 100000 Iraqies have died because of the Bush administration. they are bathing in blood, they are mass murders.

Did Bush kill them? Last time I checked it was the terrorists your Chamberlain self wants to negotiate with.

 

[Navy Pride]

Well I have 14,000 posts now and have seen a lot of polls and I have to say this is the dumbest one I have ever seen......:rofl

 

[aquapub]

Not wanting to make exceptions to our murder laws based on nothing more than the age of the victim in no way contradicts us defending ourselves and our interests.

Incredibly dumb thread. :roll: