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Is it time for Hillary to drop out of the race?

Time for Hillary to Drop Out?

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i'd prefer Sanders. he seems more genuinely concerned with the struggles of the average worker than any other candidate does. i've been voting for Ross Perots since 1992, though, so i'm well aware of how unlikely this is to happen.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I'm not at all convinced that Bernie Sanders could beat Trump. Sanders has been given pretty much a free ride to date while Trump and Clinton have both been savaged by different sections of the media. Sanders, to date, is like everyone's cute gramps and we're humouring him, but nobody is seriously going to give gramps the keys to the car at this stage in his life.

For better, but mostly for the worst, Democrats are chained to the Clinton lead ball and it's really all they've got.
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From what i recall Bernie did quite well in the industrial heartland with blue collar workers.
 
JANFU said:
That I am aware of. I needed confirmation on Bernie? Did he do well with BC workers?
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I believe so, but it's hard to define with the Democrats, since the racial vote statistics strongly favoured Hillary and many minorities are also BC workers. But in the rust belt, I believe Sanders did better than Hillary.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I believe so, but it's hard to define with the Democrats, since the racial vote statistics strongly favoured Hillary and many minorities are also BC workers. But in the rust belt, I believe Sanders did better than Hillary.
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Thank you.
A poll on T v S.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Another but in Georgia
In shock poll, Sanders leads Trump in Georgia | TheHill
A Democratic friend called to make sure I saw the great news that likely Democratic Hillary Clinton had pulled to within 4 percentage points of presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump in Georgia, according to a poll from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. My friend was right. That poll did show Trump with 45 percent and Clinton with 41 percent. It is good news that Clinton could be poised to make a bid to win Georgia's electoral votes.

And then, looking deeper at The Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll, I saw something even more interesting — indeed fascinating and shocking. The poll found Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) defeating Trump outright, with Sanders getting 47 percent and Trump lagging behind with only 42 percent! According to this new and highly reputable poll, Sanders could well be the favorite to win Georgia's electoral votes in a Trump vs. Sanders race, until another poll provides different results, which may or may not happen.
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That would be premature. Now should she lose California by five points or so - its something she may want to consider if she will not put Sanders not he ticket.
 
mak2 said:
Sanders might beat Trump, but as much as I don't like Trump, I really don't like Hillary so I do wish she would drop out. Bernie is a bit too far left for me, but at least I think he believes in what he says as opposed to the other two. Of three bad choices I am voting for Jim Beam on election day. I aint voting unless it is not one of these three, I will stay home and have a few adult beverages.
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Hillary will take the country down the same path we've been on for 8 years, but Sanders is like Obama on steroids. Don't stay home on election day - it will be a vote for Hillary. Enjoy your Jim Beam after the winner is announced - whichever way it goes.
 
mak2 said:
I am not voting, I believe them all to be equally bad. Sorry I was rambling a bit there. Beam I can believe in.
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I wish more people did as you do.


It is utter nonsense that you should vote if you dislike all of the candidates...how asinine is that?

How is America going to get better if everyone keeps voting for excrement? Crap in, crap out.

If people only vote for quality, that will strongly encourage quality to run.

But voting for excrement just encourages excrement to run.


It is NOT your duty to vote...it is your duty (imo) to ONLY vote for people whom you think will improve the constituency they are running to represent.

How hideous do the candidates have to be before the 'VOTE NO MATTER WHAT'-types stop shoving 'VOTE NOW' down everyone's throats?

Because I think we are there (though I like Sanders the man - many of his policies seem too extreme to me).
 
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Dion said:
I think Sanders should keep going as well. I love Bernie and I am sure many of his supporter to give him a chance will stir it up and call for her to drop out. Come on --- if you were competing in anything --- would you suddenly stop and demand no opposition and your opponent should drop out? I think Hillary is the only candidate that is not ***** whining for her opponents to drop out. Trump definitely good the prize for insisting any competition drop out - he was a real tool in the republican primary each few days demeaning whomever was up in the polls against him better drop out for one reason or another.

Sure people are calling for Trump to drop out based on his fraud and bankruptcies and inability to do much more than bellow to crowds yet he has a right to go for it as well.

No Hillary should not drop out. Beside she is the only centrist candidate and that is how most educated Americans fall politically.

Yet do not misread me by my vote on this poll --- I love the progressiveness of Bernie. He is a phenomenon.
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Sanders has never actually called for Hillary to drop out.

Also, which source backs your claim that most educated people lean centrist (as in American centrist)/neoliberal?
 
Surrealistik said:
Sanders has never actually called for Hillary to drop out.

Also, which source backs your claim that most educated people lean centrist (as in American centrist)/neoliberal?
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Yes of course Sanders would not be a ***** and ask Hillary to drop out --- that is Trump. Some of Sanders crazier supporters have yet no candidate is responsible for all of their supporters actions.

Oh there are numerous studies that more educated people tend to vote Democrat/Centrist. I can link a few sources yet just research online. Evangelicals are the least educated and in reality the right wing is proud they do not follow science and poke fun at intellectual reasoning as elitist.

A Deep Dive Into Party Affiliation | Pew Research Center

Yet I hate to change the thread topic and so I circle back to the topic that Trump or Hillary or Sanders all should be fully in this race. Trump always bellows that whoever is rising as his competition should drop out. That is just his schtick.

Sanders and Clinton have never called for their competitors to drop out.
 
legalimmigrant said:
With the voters like this one, the country is so totally screwed by the liberals and the low-information soccer moms who twice elected a promiscuous hick from Arkansas. Later, the brain-dead single women doubled down with a truly vile gift from hell - a Muslim community agitator from Chicago - in exchange for the federally mandated birth-control pill.

In their perverted logic, promiscuity, random premarital sex, free contraceptives, and unrestricted ability to cut up into smaller pieces what could one day be a smiling and happy child take precedence over everything else. The survival of the white race and the nation, the American feminazis and their mindless followers happily left to the fly-over, Bible-clutching, gun-packing right-wingers to worry about.

As the concept of unselfish patriotism quickly becomes outdated and almost laughable as the Constitution itself, it takes no special skill to predict that the nation’s fate will ultimately be sealed the day the white American men - outnumbered and *****fied - finally abdicate and start voting for the party offering the best deal on porn, condoms and Viagra.
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The concepts in that post...are sick.

Get over your hatred.
 
RetiredUSN said:
There is nothing honorable or decent about Mrs. Clinton.
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Hillary Clinton is a competent woman...and will make a fine president.

If you think Donald Trump is a better choice, by all means, vote for him.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Hillary Clinton is a competent woman...and will make a fine president.

If you think Donald Trump is a better choice, by all means, vote for him.
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I am taking a pass on him also

We have some good candidates on the local scene that I will show up for on November 8th.
 
Dion said:
Oh there are numerous studies that more educated people tend to vote Democrat/Centrist. I can link a few sources yet just research online. Evangelicals are the least educated and in reality the right wing is proud they do not follow science and poke fun at intellectual reasoning as elitist.

A Deep Dive Into Party Affiliation | Pew Research Center
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I'm interested in Centrist/Neoliberal vs Progressive specifically which your article does not differentiate between.
 
Why on earth would she drop out when she's beating Sanders? I mean I'd love it if she did, because I like Sanders a lot better, but it makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Dion said:
No she should not drop out.

Trump was always bellowing for his opponents (Jeb or Kasich or Marco or Cruz) to drop out for one reason or another.

Sure no per on n the history of the US has ever had a witch hunt or more lies spread of them then those about Hillary yet she by far remains the most qualified for POTUS.

I think Sanders should keep going as well. I love Bernie and I am sure many of his supporter to give him a chance will stir it up and call for her to drop out. Come on --- if you were competing in anything --- would you suddenly stop and demand no opposition and your opponent should drop out? I think Hillary is the only candidate that is not ***** whining for her opponents to drop out. Trump definitely good the prize for insisting any competition drop out - he was a real tool in the republican primary each few days demeaning whomever was up in the polls against him better drop out for one reason or another.

Sure people are calling for Trump to drop out based on his fraud and bankruptcies and inability to do much more than bellow to crowds yet he has a right to go for it as well.

No Hillary should not drop out. Beside she is the only centrist candidate and that is how most educated Americans fall politically.

Yet do not misread me by my vote on this poll --- I love the progressiveness of Bernie. He is a phenomenon.

Trump is Trump and despite the majority of sane and educated Americans not wanting him as POTUS - he has a right to stay in - despite him insisting that none of his republican contenders had any rights. I am sure he will shout the same words to whomever runs against him in the General Election.
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Perhaps she should stop breaking the law?
 
Dion said:
Yes of course Sanders would not be a ***** and ask Hillary to drop out --- that is Trump. Some of Sanders crazier supporters have yet no candidate is responsible for all of their supporters actions.

Oh there are numerous studies that more educated people tend to vote Democrat/Centrist. I can link a few sources yet just research online. Evangelicals are the least educated and in reality the right wing is proud they do not follow science and poke fun at intellectual reasoning as elitist.

A Deep Dive Into Party Affiliation | Pew Research Center

Yet I hate to change the thread topic and so I circle back to the topic that Trump or Hillary or Sanders all should be fully in this race. Trump always bellows that whoever is rising as his competition should drop out. That is just his schtick.

Sanders and Clinton have never called for their competitors to drop out.
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These polls are always brought out to try and prove this. However, if you look at your own data, Democrats also lead with high school or less. Yet, no one ever seems to mention that.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Finally, and we all knew this day was coming, people are calling for Hillary to drop out of the race. Hillary cannot beat Trump. Trump and Sanders create excitement. Hillary creates, well nothing.

Trump and Sanders fill-up stadiums and parks, huge venues. Hillary's people - to this day - must book very small locations (1,000 capacity or less) so as to provide the illusion that Hillary is packing them in. Ahhhh, decidedly not.

Trump and Sanders are on time and show boundless energy and enthusiasm. Hillary is habitually late, 30 minutes, 45 minutes or longer. Ironically it has never been reported that Hillary has been late for private fund raising dinners with the 1%. Hillary obviously hates being around the common people. Does Hillary have disdain for the commoners? There is no doubt that she acts like it. It's palpable, and truly, any attempt to change her public persona would be much too late. It would appear to most every voter as putting lipstick on a pig.



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What say you? Vote the poll.
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Clinton is ahead of Sanders and last I checked she is73 delegates away from getting the democrat nomination.Even without the super delegates she is ahead of Sanders.Poll show that Trump will get beat and curb stomped in the general election regardless if it is Clinton or Sanders who gets the nomination.So it is not in any benefit for Clinton to drop out.Once Clinton wins the democrat nomination the lib-tard media will act as though none of those scandals never happened because the lib-tard media would rather Clinton win than Trump.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders
 
Lots of Americans are opposed to Trump for the same reasons that others support him.Wait and see what happens in November.

The election will be close but Trump will lose. Check out Obama's approval rating. That tells the tale.
 
I have a hard time believing anywhere near half of voting Americans could be that crazy. I think Trump will moderate for the general election, which will PO his rabid far right base, and he will lose even some of those to the libertarians, and he cannot moderate enough to pick up a significant number of moderates. But I have been wrong about everything I have thought about Trump from the start. Heck, he might win.
shrubnose said:
Lots of Americans are opposed to Trump for the same reasons that others support him.Wait and see what happens in November.

The election will be close but Trump will lose. Check out Obama's approval rating. That tells the tale.
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mak2 said:
I have a hard time believing anywhere near half of voting Americans could be that crazy. I think Trump will moderate for the general election, which will PO his rabid far right base, and he will lose even some of those to the libertarians, and he cannot moderate enough to pick up a significant number of moderates. But I have been wrong about everything I have thought about Trump from the start.
Heck, he might win.
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Only if he can convince enough of the people that he's been spreading hate and fear about to vote for him.

I predict that won't happen.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Chelsea's husband, Marc Mezvinsky, is working on it. He has certainly benefited from Bill and Hill's sweetheart relationship with Goldman Sachs though he apparently knows little about investing other people's money.

That's no crime, but there's no virtue in it either. Give him time and with Clinton connections Mezvinsky and Chelsea will soon be involved in their own sordid dealings involving power, privilege and basic feckerery.
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Not to mention she is a major player of the corrupt Clinton Foundation.
 
Surrealistik said:
Sanders has never actually called for Hillary to drop out.

Also, which source backs your claim that most educated people lean centrist (as in American centrist)/neoliberal?
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Why do you combine centrist and neo-liberal when the two are nothing alike?
 
mak2 said:
I have a hard time believing anywhere near half of voting Americans could be that crazy. I think Trump will moderate for the general election, which will PO his rabid far right base, and he will lose even some of those to the libertarians, and he cannot moderate enough to pick up a significant number of moderates. But I have been wrong about everything I have thought about Trump from the start. Heck, he might win.
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Trump? Moderate his positions?
 
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