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Is it time for gay pride parades to take it down a notch in general?

oy vey...another one who thinks the two are equal.


call me when the next straight pride parade occurs in the US.... by "the next" I actually mean "the first"

... and if that day ever comes, i'll sit here and call it stupid too.

There already have been numerous straight pride parades in the US
 
Well, too bad. Some parts of the culture are for you, and some parts are for other people. You'll just have to learn to share like an adult.

That's also, by the by, why other people should share with you.

says the person who freaked the **** out over a few people wanting to march in DC with firearms.

so much for your "sharing" bull**** huh?
 
says the person who freaked the **** out over a few people wanting to march in DC with firearms.

so much for your "sharing" bull**** huh?

And if they marched without a permit, I'm sure you'd be OK if the police ran them down :roll:
 
Until a pride parade has anything that would be out of place during Mardi Gras or Carnival, I see no reason to complain at all. Public displays that include sexuality are hardly a new idea. Just those two and events like them include a lot of heterosexuality, or at least imagery that appeals to heterosexual males.

Pride parades are just being subjected to double standards that assume everything must be centered around male heterosexuality. They have no cause to tone anything down. We're just better off when we stop pretending that hetero men are the only audience that matters.
This is precisely why the outrageous behavior certainly does not perpetuate stereotypes. Bigots perpetuate stereotypes by generalizing from the example. Which is a fallacy, and a mark of ignorance.
 
If they aren't hurting anyone, other than the sensibilities of someone watching, who, the parade is probably not aimed at, then who cares?
 
Already did.

ahh.. you wiki link... that didn't back up your claim of straight pride parades occuring in the US.


...ok.:roll:


straight pride parades can't happen... liberals would freak out over such a thing happening.
 
If they aren't hurting anyone, other than the sensibilities of someone watching, who, the parade is probably not aimed at, then who cares?

a lot of that depends on time and place.... if it's a "private" event... **** everyone else, they shouldn't show up.

if it's a public event.. common courtesy rules should apply.

as some folks have said, some of these parades are perfectly fine .. no untoward behavior ... they are family friendly... it's all good.
( my opinion is they are still stupid, but that's just an opinion)
 
ahh.. you wiki link... that didn't back up your claim of straight pride parades occuring in the US.


...ok.:roll:


straight pride parades can't happen... liberals would freak out over such a thing happening.

I read the best answer to this in the following link.

What Does A Straight Pride Parade Look Like? Ask Sao Paulo / Queerty

I get sick of listening to straight people complain about, “Well, hey, we don’t have a heterosexual-pride day, why do you need a gay-pride day?” I remember when I was a kid I’d always ask my mom: “Why don’t we have a Kid’s Day? We have a Mother’s Day and a Father’s Day, but why don’t we have a Kid’s Day?” My mom would always say, “Every day is Kid’s Day.” To all those heterosexuals that bitch about gay pride, I say the same thing: Every day is heterosexual-pride day! Can’t you people enjoy your banquet and not piss on those of us enjoying our crumbs over here in the corner?

While it does occur, generally as an attempted protest of gay pride, it is completely unnecessary.

We heterosexuals aren't being held back from anything, such as marriage. We aren't told that we can't adopt a child just because some other people who don't know us and have no real knowledge on what is best for raising a child don't think it is right to allow us to raise children together. We weren't drug out of our homes or sent off by our parents to be abused, locked up, or brainwashed up until only about 40 years ago (some still happening in the form of "conversion therapy" in some places) because the relationships we want to be in are viewed as "wrong". We weren't put on some sex offender lists just for being heterosexual. Heterosexuals aren't fired for their sexuality. Heterosexuals weren't prevented from openly serving in the military up until last year.
 
Well, if we devote all our time to ensure that no person is ever offended, we will be a busy and boring lot.

I'm Irish, the stereotype of us is that we are drunken, fighting yobs. I'd be offended, but I do like to drink... :)
 
I read the best answer to this in the following link.

What Does A Straight Pride Parade Look Like? Ask Sao Paulo / Queerty



While it does occur, generally as an attempted protest of gay pride, it is completely unnecessary.

We heterosexuals aren't being held back from anything, such as marriage. We aren't told that we can't adopt a child just because some other people who don't know us and have no real knowledge on what is best for raising a child don't think it is right to allow us to raise children together. We weren't drug out of our homes or sent off by our parents to be abused, locked up, or brainwashed up until only about 40 years ago (some still happening in the form of "conversion therapy" in some places) because the relationships we want to be in are viewed as "wrong". We weren't put on some sex offender lists just for being heterosexual. Heterosexuals aren't fired for their sexuality. Heterosexuals weren't prevented from openly serving in the military up until last year.

so gays aren't actually celebrating their sexuality.. they are mad and protesting.

do you have feel some ill treatment to be prideful of your sexuality?... is that why liberals balk at the notion of equality in "celebrations?" .. they don't believe "normal" people have reason to be prideful?

meh, one day either all of these stupid "pride" things will disappear... or at least liberals will start to "share" like they pretend to do now.
 
so gays aren't actually celebrating their sexuality.. they are mad and protesting.

do you have feel some ill treatment to be prideful of your sexuality?... is that why liberals balk at the notion of equality in "celebrations?" .. they don't believe "normal" people have reason to be prideful?

meh, one day either all of these stupid "pride" things will disappear... or at least liberals will start to "share" like they pretend to do now.

One day in the very distant future, maybe all the "pride" days will disappear. But as long as there those who would use some difference to try to oppress or hate others, then it isn't likely.

I simply don't care. If you wish to have a "straight pride event" go for it. No one is stopping you. But don't pretend that the gay pride events aren't for everyone anyway. Many of those who participate in gay pride parades are in fact straight.
 
Well, I have been to parades, it was interesting. But the parade was not really different than any other. People in costumes walking down the street, sure the costumes were provocative and the dancing suggestive but cheerleaders outfits and dances are exactly the same. It's just that some of the sexual objects are men. Frankly very pretty men, it seems to offend people when a 25 year old man is sexually objectified but not a teenaged girl.

I Think the push against this is about the idea that men can be objectified. It's likely the reality behind most homophobia. Think about the pressure we put on women to be pretty, any man worth his weight in salt knows that it's a heavy burden on women. Everybody thinks gay men are extremely physically fit and I have been to gay clubs there are male steppers there, they are beautiful and women look at them. I always wondered why straight women went to gay boy clubs but I saw them checking out the dudes. They have every bit the physical desire men do.

Straight men are afraid of this. Feeling inadequate is not at all comfortable to a man that is trying to be confident.

I dint think pride parades need to be toned down. If you don't like it don't go.
 
so gays aren't actually celebrating their sexuality.. they are mad and protesting.

do you have feel some ill treatment to be prideful of your sexuality?... is that why liberals balk at the notion of equality in "celebrations?" .. they don't believe "normal" people have reason to be prideful?

meh, one day either all of these stupid "pride" things will disappear... or at least liberals will start to "share" like they pretend to do now.

That's the current iteration of a number of the pride events or causes, yes. Eventually it might be something like norsk hostfest here or Irish or Italian pride moments...maybe they will eventually (long way off from even being a reality) disappear.
 
First off, I love the GLBT community and I want gays to be out in public. Yes, I want an adult alternative for people to participate in. So hear me out before freaking out. In the past the gay pride parade needed to be in your face. It needed a brash we are here and queer and it is not going away attitude. Also, it was one of very few outlets which means all types were there and there was no good alternative for an adult thing. I guess this also would overlap on adult entertainment in straight society also. Some people want there to be more adult venues and it seems there is becoming a demand for kids free locations that are not just clubs or bars. That probably plays in here also.

Is it time to maybe make pride parades a bit more PG while expanding new venues for the adult exploration of adult gay life? In this aspect gays seem to be making the second half of that happen a lot more than straight people. I know of a few Adult gay celebrations on private lands and where kids are restricted that go on. There are a number of adult conventions that I know about many of which are heavily gay and alternate sexuality. This seems to be a great way to do things so you can tone down the pride events while promoting the adult events at something that draws a larger crowd. I have noticed a few of my gay friends who have now started to shy away from adult celebrations because they have children. There should be pride events that children of both gay and straight people can go to without getting a dick in their kid's face. perhaps the public nudity displays should not be holding up traffic for everyone. I don't want to see neked women or men lovin it up in the middle of the street while I have to get to work. I can understand that view.

Should the gay community be moving towards a more family oriented pride now that they are breaking through?

I'm not sure that they should be doing anything; but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea for their most public event (the gay pride parade) to be vaguely family friendly. That's just good public relations. Of course what, specifically, that would mean is probably very much open to interpretation.
 
Gay pride = two sins.

:lol: that is old skool.

Due to my Biblical beliefs, I don't think gay sexual relationships / gay marriages should be promoted or legitimized.

if your beliefs are about oppressing people then perhaps you should rethink your position.
 
Due to my Biblical beliefs, I don't think gay sexual relationships / gay marriages should be promoted or legitimized.

Gay pride = two sins.

I can see by your avatar that you are sinning... well done.
 
yes that would be great if we got to a point where they werent even felt to be necessary by people.


Exactly... won't happen in our lifetime though.
 
One day in the very distant future, maybe all the "pride" days will disappear. But as long as there those who would use some difference to try to oppress or hate others, then it isn't likely.

I simply don't care. If you wish to have a "straight pride event" go for it. No one is stopping you. But don't pretend that the gay pride events aren't for everyone anyway. Many of those who participate in gay pride parades are in fact straight.

now why would i want a straight pride parade?... i've clearly stated a few times that I think it would be stupid.... just as stupid as gay pride.

gay pride is not for everyone... straights might participate or watch, but it's not for straights.... it's called "gay pride" for a reason.


hate will never ever ever disappear...... not now, not in the near future, not in the distant future.
it won't disappear and we shouldn't try to make it disappear.
( there are ways to handle it , though)

that said, if these sorts of "pride" parades are to be accepted, then i think folks should learn to be accepting of other "pride" events
if one accepts gay pride, they should accept straight pride.. if one accepts black pride, they should accept white pride..... as a socialist here said we need to learn to "share"
( hehe, there's better odds of me winning the powerball 3 times in a row than that happening :lol:)
 
that said, if these sorts of "pride" parades are to be accepted, then i think folks should learn to be accepting of other "pride" events
if one accepts gay pride, they should accept straight pride.. if one accepts black pride, they should accept white pride..... as a socialist here said we need to learn to "share"
( hehe, there's better odds of me winning the powerball 3 times in a row than that happening :lol:)

I think the problem is not just historical baggage, but also how people approach counterpart events. It's not frequent that these folks just want to be interested in fostering an appreciation for, say, British- Protestant heritage, it's that they consciously do it to spite a minority that at least in some way they know their group has actually institutionally harmed and oppressed.
 
I wish this thread was in the basement. There could be jokes.
 

Pride... in his big "Conservative Patriot" Eagle Flying avatar.

What is the point other than "pride", one of the Seven Deadly Sins?
 
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