Is it ok to kill your child?

[nes]

Now when you seen this post if you assumed abortion, your wrong!
I still can't believe people are to scared to spank a child.

It it ok to kill your child?
I say no and below is the biblical quote and the explanation on it.

smite - Definitions from Dictionary.com

definition of smite

1. to strike or hit hard, with or as with the hand, a stick, or other weapon:

BibleGateway.com - Passage Lookup: Exodus 21:15

And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

:rofl

And the best part of all is that you can use a rod and hit the kid hard for a lesson :rofl

If you actually thought you can kill your child without attaining sin than your wrong.

Now, the bible doesn't say to kill a or your child. Infact, it doesn't say to kill your child if the child beats you up. Heres why....

First, it says "shall surely be put to death", meaning that it will happen. It doesn't command anyone to kill the child. It simply means, if your a kid and you whack your parents, you'll surely sin.

BibleGateway.com - Passage Lookup: Genesis 2:17;

And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Note that the bible relates to death by sin always through the soul.

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

So figuratively, death in the bible (unless explicitly otherwise) is actually going to hell and eternal life is through going to heaven. So the above quote simply means that the child has sin, sin has the wage of going to hell forever and dying.

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Now since sins are forgiven through jesus, but how could you not die by sinning?

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

So he forgets the sin as if it never happened, so you won't die (in hell).

I rest my case...

EDIT: forgotten to add a poll

 

[niftydrifty]

you're not talking about abortion. and it's not okay to kill a child.

who is going to argue with this?

man, even if a child beat me up, I still wouldn't kill it.

I rest my case...

what case was that? is this continued from another thread? it isn't clear at all.

 

[Flea]

How lame is any person that wonders if it is OK to kill a child and then actually confers with a book to see if it would be justified or not?

Is that what you just did nes?

That idiotic little book already gives justification to people wondering if they can prostitute their daughters.

nes, are you really as screwed up as you sound or is it just a silly-fest for you? :roll:

 

[Kelzie]

How lame is any person that wonders if it is OK to kill a child and then actually confers with a book to see if it would be justified or not?

Is that what you just did nes?

That idiotic little book already gives justification to people wondering if they can prostitute their daughters.

nes, are you really as screwed up as you sound or is it just a silly-fest for you? :roll:

It's even sadder when the silly little book actually does tell you to kill your child...no matter how you spin it.

 

[MSgt]

Only if he is concealing WMD and is an immediate threat.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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Poll added per request.

 

[hereyago]

there are situations where you have to

 

[Hatuey]

Depends. How close are his/her hands to my T.V. remote?

 

[Flea]

He is not asking if it is OK to "kill" your child, as in self-defense. He is asking if it is OK to MURDER your child. Punitive. Murder. It is disgusting and so is this kid nes.

 

[Hatuey]

He is not asking if it is OK to "kill" your child, as in self-defense. He is asking if it is OK to MURDER your child. Punitive. Murder. It is disgusting and so is this kid nes.

Like I said. If his/her hands are touching my remote and it's an important day. Like say Superbowl Sunday. A Pre-emptive strike is my only option.

 

[saggyjones]

What are you trying to say with this post nes?

 

[nes]

I didn't say its ok to kill your child, I've shown that it is a sin to do so.

Of course since nearly everyone is biased and a Satan worshiper most here seem to only want to disprove Christianity.

Does anyone even care about this? - http://www.debatepolitics.com/religion-philosophy/17532-shia-muslims-celebrate-their-loses.html

 

[Hatuey]

I didn't say its ok to kill your child, I've shown that it is a sin to do so.

Of course since nearly everyone is biased and a Satan worshiper most here seem to only want to disprove Christianity.

Does anyone even care about this? - http://www.debatepolitics.com/religion-philosophy/17532-shia-muslims-celebrate-their-loses.html

Wait I dont get it. Are you saying that according to whatever religion you believe killing your children is a sin? Ok I dont get what the point of telling us that is.

 

[saggyjones]

I didn't say its ok to kill your child, I've shown that it is a sin to do so.

Everyone already knew that. What's your point in doing so?

Of course since nearly everyone is biased

I admit I am biased because I'm not religious, although I do respect everyone's religion.

and a Satan worshiper

Who here is a Satan worshiper and how did you come to that conclusion?

most here seem to only want to disprove Christianity.

Yeah either that or they think your post is completely idiotic and has no point. I think I'll talk to my lord Satan about this and see what he thinks :rofl

Does anyone even care about this? - http://www.debatepolitics.com/religion-philosophy/17532-shia-muslims-celebrate-their-loses.html

How does that relate at all to killing your child? I fail to see the connection. And by the way, I don't give a flying f**k about that because Muslims can do whatever they want. That's a religious ceremony that's been going on for a long long time; what's your point of bringing this up?

 

[BodiSatva]

Hatuey
A Pre-emptive strike is my only option.

Actually that is just the option that you choose...

nes
I didn't say its ok to kill your child, It is clear to all that you think that Oppression is justified... I've shown that it is a sin to do so. You have expressed a demented opinion and you have shown that you are dickless... Of course since nearly everyone is biased You looking in a mirror again.... and a Satan worshiper Woah Nelly! YOU have displayed most clearly that you are a deviant and that YOU embrace the Devil... Dont even try to snake your way out of that one Lucifer. most here seem to only want to disprove Christianity. Child, it is a religion...a belief, there is nothing to disprove, it is upon you to prove... :roll: Does anyone even care about this?

About you and your Devil Worshipping ways...ummm No. Bye. :2wave:

 

[Hatuey]

Actually that is just the option that you choose...

But...if it's superbowl weekend...and the little bugger wants to touch the remote...are you serious? What else would you choose? What CAN you choose? A nice talk about not touching Daddy's T.V. remote? Fine.

$@#@ing liberals...

 

[Flea]

Originalll Posted by Hatuey
But...if it's superbowl weekend...and the little bugger wants to touch the remote...are you serious? What else would you choose? What CAN you choose? A nice talk about not touching Daddy's T.V. remote? Fine.

$@#@ing liberals...

The Bold...Is that Latin?

 

[Hatuey]

The Bold...Is that Latin?

It's 1337 Speak

 

[niftydrifty]

I'm going to go out on a limb here for the sake of argument, and say that, yes, hell yes, it is ok to kill your child! :blah:

now, why, do you ask, do I think so? and in what circumstances is it permissable?

behold:

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" ... do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

"The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. But because by doing this you have made the enemies of the Lord show utter contempt, the son born to you will die" (Nathan to David, 2Samuel 12:13-15)

The Lord hath spoken. Praise the Lord.

:joke:

 

[Flea]

You just crossed the line niftydrifty! Hellfire and Brimstone shall wreak a famine upon you and your brethren you godless son of a whore!

Oh, yeah...just joking!

 

[Flea]

Originalll Posted by Hatuey
But...if it's superbowl weekend...and the little bugger wants to touch the remote...

So how did it work out? ** crosses fingers **

 

[Flea]

Originally Posted by BodiSatva

nes
I didn't say its ok to kill your child, It is clear to all that you think that Oppression is justified... I've shown that it is a sin to do so. You have expressed a demented opinion and you have shown that you are bleep... Of course since nearly everyone is biased You looking in a mirror again.... and a Satan worshiper Woah Nelly! YOU have displayed most clearly that you are a deviant and that YOU embrace the Devil... Dont even try to snake your way out of that one Lucifer. most here seem to only want to disprove Christianity. Child, it is a religion...a belief, there is nothing to disprove, it is upon you to prove... Does anyone even care about this?

About you and your Devil Worshipping ways...ummm No. Bye. :2wave:

I am amazed that nes can express such hatred, such evil. It is disheartening.

 

[saggyjones]

nes still hasn't replied to any posts... maybe it was a joke

 

[BodiSatva]

that is perception my friends.
Give a round of applause to mr. saggy!
Seriously...
:bravo:

 

[saggyjones]

that is perception my friends.
Give a round of applause to mr. saggy!
Seriously...
:bravo:

Please please sit down... no really I don't deserve this much attention... well all right go ahead and shower me and my geniousness (?) with praise