Another socialist attitude if I ever saw one.
What defines a "socialist attitude"? Trying to create a society that attempts to keep all of it's members productive and continuing to make the country stronger? Yeah, guilty as charged. Or did you just want a cheap, thoughtless quip?
I suspect it's probably the latter.
Nobody on this earth owes you a damn thing.
1.) Really? Do you have rights? Did you get an education? Do you use roads? Are you or do you plan on using social security? Yes, RetiredUSN, society does owe you something, it's not necessarily a job, but it does owe you an opportunity. Humans being are social animals that created civilizations because they are (or should be) mutually advantageous to everyone involved. If people manipulate that system, harm others in the process, then that should be spoken of and discussed openly --and the fact that you know one kid who owns one company neither supports or damages my statements about the economy at large.
2.) That's a massive strawman, and I didn't say that. Again, it's easier for you to don you "Oh the lazy kids these days" hat, rather than actually address what was forward to you in an intellectually honest way. So let's reiterate:
I didn't say anyone was "owed" a specific job --but a job in general? Yes, if we have a functional society, there should be jobs so most of the members of the society can be productive. If there aren't jobs, we're being very poor stewards of our civilization and negating the whole point in being a civilization.
3.) Despite your glib comments, I'm currently gainfully employed. As far as Millennials go, I'm relatively well off (emphasis on relatively), but it's not like I'm doing spectacularly. I can't
not worry about my future because everyone in my generation has to worry constantly about the next economic collapse or companies falling apart or jobs not being around in six months. So even though I'm somewhat lucky, that doesn't mean that I don't understand how badly the US' fiscal/taxation, financial, and economic (including trade deals) are screwing over working-class Americans, that this precludes me from understanding that this is prolonging the recession (and damaging my own economic interests), and I'm not delusional or misinformed enough to think that telling a few young men how to build fences is going to change the entire systemic problem, or naive/myopic enough to think one kid building up a small company of is indicative of the entire economy and the average experience/reality of most people under the age of 45. Because whether you want to square that away or not, a majority of them are solidly ****ed, and a little speech about pulling yourself up from your bootstraps does nothing at all to change that reality.
Just because some young person decides to go in debt for a continued education, doesn't mean that society owes him/her a job. Where did you get that crap from?
1.) Again, you confuse "should be able to find or create some job," which is what I'm saying, with "is owed a specific job at this company," which is the strawman statement you're making. That's transparently disingenuous.
2.) If you don't understand how you as a worker relate to the economy that you work in and how that can be manipulated by the very wealthy and powerful, then you need to educate yourself (at a bare minimum,
read some articles on IncomeInequality.org). Or if you don't want to education yourself, then one must wonder why you're bothering to state your opinion.
Either way, this is veered way off topic. If you want to bloviate some more about why everyone should be pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, I would encourage you to make a new thread, otherwise go ahead and take the last word.
