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Is it human nature to fight for the underdog?

Is it human nature to fight for the underdog?


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tacomancer

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Is it human nature to fight for the underdog or to want to level the playing field? Or would you consider this a learned behavior?
 

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I think this is a learned behavior. Mostly through entertainment and some of it through education. For example Robinhood standing up to tyrants or movies or music doing somethig desicable as glorifying criminals while depicting law enforcement as racist and corrupt.
 

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Is it human nature to fight for the underdog or to want to level the playing field? Or would you consider this a learned behavior?

If anything, I would say the opposite.


Human nature involves a sense of socialization based upon likeness and familiarity, and ends up a case of the majority persecuting the minority over real or perceived differences. The willingness to protect the minority from such persecution may be derived from a higher degree of moral reasoning that is more or less innate in some people, but it is far from universal.
 
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senselessly rooting for the underdog appears to be a common nature with people seeing as how much we tend to support the palestinians to the point of mindless reflex.
 

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senselessly rooting for the underdog appears to be a common nature with people seeing as how much we tend to support the palestinians to the point of mindless reflex.

What is curious about this particular mindlessness is the way the true dynamic has been inverted through an organized propaganda effort. The real struggle is between the majority Arabs (and to a great extent Muslims) persecuting the small minority of Jews. People did not refer to themselves as "Palestinians" until just a few decades ago, and the very reason for this has to do with creating the perception that those involved in the pesecution are really the victims of such.
 

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What is curious about this particular mindlessness is the way the true dynamic has been inverted through an organized propaganda effort. The real struggle is between the majority Arabs (and to a great extent Muslims) persecuting the small minority of Jews. People did not refer to themselves as "Palestinians" until just a few decades ago, and the very reason for this has to do with creating the perception that those involved in the pesecution are really the victims of such.

Well....the Palestinians are persecuted by Israel. Israel is also in hostile land. It was not a good idea in hindsight to have made Israel. But it was created, and that's that. But we shouldn't pretend that the situation is so cut and dry and that only Israel has been persecuted. In reality, each side has done bad things to the other.
 

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It was not a good idea in hindsight to have made Israel.

That's like saying it was a bad idea to give blacks the vote because it pissed off racist whites.

Providing a minority with self determination is not a bad idea simply because the large majority are bigoted against them.
 

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Is it human nature to fight for the underdog or to want to level the playing field? Or would you consider this a learned behavior?

I think it's human nature to be just the opposite. Being empathetic toward someone less fortunate (in any way) is a learned behavior.
 

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That's like saying it was a bad idea to give blacks the vote because it pissed off racist whites.

Providing a minority with self determination is not a bad idea simply because the large majority are bigoted against them.

No it's not. Don't be stupid. It's saying that putting a Jewish country in middle of the aggressive and hostile neighbors was a bad idea. And it was a bad idea. It was not "providing a minority with self determination", it was making a Jewish state in middle of hostile lands and this is obviously what happens when you do so. Don't try to make this some racist thing, that's idiotic. It's nothing more than a statement of fact. It was not a good idea to construct a Jewish state in the middle of hostile lands.
 

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No it's not. Don't be stupid.

My rhetoric would have to be more like yours to achieve that.

Just because you are so monumentally ignorant of the history here, that does not mean such ignorant opinions are "fact".
 

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My rhetoric would have to be more like yours to achieve that.

Just because you are so monumentally ignorant of the history here, that does not mean such ignorant opinions are "fact".

She didn't analogise Israel to segregation and jim crow.
 
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