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Nonsense.
I think more and more people would just become homeless because life is hard and this would be an easy alternative.
I'm not Scrooge..I'm just opposed to ANYBODY, using govt guns to take money from anybody. If you aren't able to provide for yourself, then either rely on charity or perish in and of your own void, or do the honorable thing and end your own worthless life.
It would be cheaper if the state did none of that.
How much cheaper would it be if they weren't being warehoused and had jobs instead?
Okay, so you vote for warehousing them. Got it.You can't get a job without an address or without looking like ... well, like you just spent the night sleeping in a cardboard box.
No that's too cruel. We cant expect our homeless to live like some lowly private. They need a place of their own, with three meals a day, a tv, internet, job training, transportation, leisure time, and a wardrobe that wont stigmatize them. You know, all those things that the rest of us actually have to get up every morning and bust our asses to achieve...
Ah. If it were true, THEN you'd support it. But you know how those doggone lib'ruls are, y'know, 'cause they're just a-gonna skew the numbers just 'cause they hate 'Merica, y'know...'cause you know them lib'ruls ain't never honest, and all them studies are all part of one big left-wing conspiracy.
An' we all know it too, don' we? We couldn't prove it, but we just knows how the got every single one of the world's major scientific institutions (an' almost all the scientists) to all agree about global warming - but we just can't show how they went about doin' it. Not only that, but them lib'ruls also got millions - an' I mean MILLIONS - of fraudulent votes out there. We haven't been able to prove more than about twenty of them since the turn of the century, but you know them lib'ruls - they're awful sneaky, gettin' millions an' millions of them illegal im-grants to risk arrest and deportation to cast that there vote! An' I bet it's that there George Soros who directs all this from his ivory castle somewhere, even though we haven't caught him doin' it yet....
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In other words, guy, has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe we DON'T 'skew the numbers', that maybe, just maybe those studies might be exactly what they say they are?
No, just the things that are lies.Some people cannot be reasoned with, Glen. There is a large segment of conservative America that has been taught -- indoctrinated, even -- for years that every single thing liberals say is a lie.
I would, but I see it as a band-aid solution. A disproportionate percentage of people who are chronically homeless suffer from mental illness or some type of drug addiction or substance abuse problem. These issues need to be addressed, and throwing people in public housing is not an adequate solution to resolving them.
As to people who are homeless for a brief period, often the cause is bad economic policy. Others may be pushed into streets due to rents rising beyond what is affordable, which is often a function of bad housing and development policy.
Sure, putting homeless individuals in apartments is better than doing nothing. But if we throw them in apartments and then turn a blind eye to the above issues, we aren't solving anything.
Okay, so you vote for warehousing them. Got it.
Really?? So one doesn't have to bust their ass to achieve the things I mentioned?? Then perhaps you might impart your wisdom to those who don't seem to be able to do it and have to rely instead upon the taxpayers.If you're "busting your ass" just to get the bare minimum on which to survive as a productive member of society, you're doing it wrong.
Except no one is actually saying that. Other than you.That's the wholly dishonest conserva-answer to anything regarding social spending -- that the poor will live like kings while everyone else toils in the salt mines.
Really?? So one doesn't have to bust their ass to achieve the things I mentioned?? Then perhaps you might impart your wisdom to those who don't seem to be able to do it and have to rely instead upon the taxpayers.
Except no one is actually saying that. Other than you.
Some people cannot be reasoned with, Glen. There is a large segment of conservative America that has been taught -- indoctrinated, even -- for years that every single thing liberals say is a lie.
You know who taught me that liberals lie about just about everything? Liberals.
You're working your fingers to the bone JUST to put a roof over your head?
To the bone? No. But do I have to work hard and often for long hours to support my family? Yes. But if you know the easy way to achieve self-sufficiency, why aren't you spreading the word to the nations poor and homeless rather than wasting your time here?
Ah, the partisan hackery just shines right through.
The idea that "liberals lie about just about everything" is a lie in and of itself. It's sheer nonsense.
Way to completely lie about what I said. I guess you're used to it, though.
No, actually, liberals lie all the time. Honesty is not a virtue to liberals, power and control are. To liberals, the ends justify the means. So lying is just a means to achieve what they see as greater ends.
Uh huh. :roll:
I love it when some conservative vomits up "THIS IS HOW LIBERALS REALLY ARE" on the forum. It's always good for a couple of chuckles when they work themselves up into a lather about how liberals are all just evil liars. Utterly laughable garbage.
Truth hurts doesn't it.
The only thing the local governments would be involved in is directing people in need to the charities that could help them. In my community most of the churches pull together and give a percentage of their tithes and offerings to help those in need in the area. For example the Lutheran church operates the food pantry out of their church where one can go three times a week for goods. The food is stocked with money from all the churches. Several churches own homes that were willed to them that they use to house those who are temporarily without shelter. They are also used to house missionaries upon return from their missions until they can settle in their own places. Business men/women who are members of these churches are involved in helping those who are out of work find a job. There are doctors, dentists, nurses in these congregations that dedicate time to free clinics for those who have no way to pay or will see someone in need in their private practice. The churches with their pulled funds will help the one who can't pay the electric bill or their house payment due to a crisis. Or if a person has no way to get to work because of a broken down car they help with the repairs. There are those who minister to drug addicts others to battered women etc. There are drives for clothing and household goods. But there is a significant number of homeless who choose to be homeless. They want to live under bridges, beg for money, and pick through trash. There's little you can do for them other than drop off blankets, coats, food etc. where they will find them.
Some people cannot be reasoned with, Glen. There is a large segment of conservative America that has been taught -- indoctrinated, even -- for years that every single thing liberals say is a lie.
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