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Not currently, but it should be.
I am a doctor. Explain how you can possibly have a 'right' to my services.
Not currently, but it should be.
As long as you get paid for services rendered, what's it to you who pays?I am a doctor. Explain how you can possibly have a 'right' to my services.
With single payer, there would be no bills.
The ones who can't afford to buy are not the wealthy. May be your response was poorly worded?
You taking money from others to pay me for my services has not established a 'right.' Plus you are acknowledging that my services require payment. You are confusing rights with privileges and state granted entitlements.As long as you get paid for services rendered, what's it to you who pays?
You taking money from others to pay me for my services has not established a 'right.' Plus you are acknowledging that my services require payment. You are confusing rights with privileges and state granted entitlements.
Since you believe that the government must provide health care, or at least some minimum level of it, do you believe that government must force someone to be a healthcare provided if no one elects to assume that role as a their job?
Are the NSF, and NIH government agencies or private institutions that receive government funding? As private institutions, they can waste their money however they wish. Now whether or not they should receive government funding or not is a whole different argument. Additionally, if the "wasteful" (a subjective value) spending does not exceed their budget minus the government contribution, then they are not wasting the taxpayer's money.
How many private payer patients does any doc have? How many pool their resources through insurances? I think your argument fails inasmuch as healthy do pay for the sick.
Right to healthcare is not a privilege unless you think that healthcare is merely a cash transaction. If so, healthcare providers missed their calling.
Is it a right in this country?
Apparently not.
Should it be? Yes.
It is a national embarrassment that there are deadly delays in care because a person lacks an ability to pay for services.
Sure....an ER cannot turn you away. But go into an ER with a significant lump in your breast and see how quickly you get that situation fast tracked.
The very poor have Medicaid. They can get service. The working poor....too rich for Medicaid too poor for insurance are screwed.
Interestingly enough....those "working poor" folks......are the "pulling yourself up by your boot straps folks. We are telling them they are better off not working.....they can get faster care.:roll:
How about you become a doctor and give your services away for free. That way you, at least, would not be viewed as a 'national embarrassment.'
I am a doctor. Explain how you can possibly have a 'right' to my services.
Healthcare is a service just as legal representation is a service; just mail delivery is a service; just as lawn care is a service, just as a million other things are services provided by individuals. And you have a 'right' to none of them.
This debate in pointless. When healthcare is a for profit industry, governed by for profit insurance companies and the doctors and clinicians are supplied by for profit pharmaceutical companies who all have paid lobbyists to get the government to do their bidding, what result is expected? This issue is not the only one that 'we the people' can debate and argue until we breathe our last breath. You pick the issue: defense, education, banking and anything that the government gets into is ruled by those that pay to get their business before the legislators. Back to healthcare, if the rampant fraud was seriously addressed and the penalties fit the crime the level of fraud could be minimized. Money talks and BS walks.......... We won't change anything until we change how we do business, I'm not going to hold my breath, not happening in my lifetime! Rant out!
This debate in pointless. When healthcare is a for profit industry, governed by for profit insurance companies and the doctors and clinicians are supplied by for profit pharmaceutical companies who all have paid lobbyists to get the government to do their bidding, what result is expected? This issue is not the only one that 'we the people' can debate and argue until we breathe our last breath. You pick the issue: defense, education, banking and anything that the government gets into is ruled by those that pay to get their business before the legislators. Back to healthcare, if the rampant fraud was seriously addressed and the penalties fit the crime the level of fraud could be minimized. Money talks and BS walks.......... We won't change anything until we change how we do business, I'm not going to hold my breath, not happening in my lifetime! Rant out!
This debate in pointless. When healthcare is a for profit industry, governed by for profit insurance companies and the doctors and clinicians are supplied by for profit pharmaceutical companies who all have paid lobbyists to get the government to do their bidding, what result is expected? This issue is not the only one that 'we the people' can debate and argue until we breathe our last breath. You pick the issue: defense, education, banking and anything that the government gets into is ruled by those that pay to get their business before the legislators. Back to healthcare, if the rampant fraud was seriously addressed and the penalties fit the crime the level of fraud could be minimized. Money talks and BS walks.......... We won't change anything until we change how we do business, I'm not going to hold my breath, not happening in my lifetime! Rant out!
OK, Skippy, why is it OK to sell food, clothing and shelter goods and services on a private for profit basis but not medical care goods and services? Those huge industries also lobby government for all sorts of perks (mainly tax breaks and protection from "unfair" competition) for themselves and subsidies to their very profitable customers - SNAP pays 100% retail (full profit) with no questions asked.
Question 1: Is access to healthcare an individual right?
Question 2: If access to healthcare is an individual right, does the government have to must provide a reasonable level of healthcare to its citizens if a citizen can not afford healthcare?
That is incorrect, you know.
Question 1: Is access to healthcare an individual right?
No one would have to be forced. The job could still pay a premium, and make it worthwhile for those who do it. They will still be making quite a bit of money - and probably more - because people who couldn't afford to go to the doctor now can, and it will be subsidized by the government.