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Is Fascism a right wing ideology?

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No.

Fascism is on the political left. It's just socialism with a nationalist bent. Mussolini, for example, was a life-long socialist and Italy under fascism was a progressive's wet dream.

Mussolini spent big on the public sector:

A former school teacher, Mussolini’s spending on the public sector, schools and infrastructure was considered extravagant. Mussolini "instituted a programme of public works hitherto unrivaled in modern Europe. Bridges, canals and roads were built, hospitals and schools, railway stations and orphanages; swamps were drained and land reclaimed, forests were planted and universities were endowed".[21] As for the scope and spending on social welfare programs, Italian fascism "compared favorably with the more advanced European nations and in some respect was more progressive".[22] When New York city politician Grover Aloysius Whalen asked Mussolini about the meaning behind Italian fascism in 1939, the reply was: "It is like your New Deal!".[23]


An expansive welfare state:

By 1925, the Fascist government had "embarked upon an elaborate program" that included food supplementary assistance, infant care, maternity assistance, general healthcare, wage supplements, paid vacations, unemployment benefits, illness insurance, occupational disease insurance, general family assistance, public housing and old age and disability insurance.[24] As for public works, the Mussolini's administration "devoted 400 million lire of public monies" for school construction between 1922 and 1942, compared to only 60 million lire between 1862 and 1922.


Along with state control over most of the economy:

By 1939, Fascist Italy attained the highest rate of state ownership of an economy in the world other than the Soviet Union,[42] where the Italian state "controlled over four-fifths of Italy's shipping and shipbuilding, three-quarters of its pig iron production and almost half that of steel".

Everything above is indisputably left wing, and anathema to people on the far right, like myself.

Here's your boy on the issue of racism:

Mussolini said:
Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.... National pride has no need of the delirium of race.

On religion:

Mussolini said:
Religion is man-made to assist in controlling the weak minded individuals because during times of atrocity and despair they feel strength in numbers.


Fascism, being a branch of socialism, is a collectivist ideology:

Mussolini said:
The state reserves the right to be the sole interpreter of the needs of society.


While those of us on the right believe in individualism and capitalism.

So let's stop with the myth that fascism is right wing. Fascism is indisputably left wing.
 
The method of government is independent of its desired/imposed economic system. One can have a monarchy (or democracy) and socialism, capitalism or a mix.
 
No.

Fascism is on the political left. It's just socialism with a nationalist bent. Mussolini, for example, was a life-long socialist and Italy under fascism was a progressive's wet dream.

Mussolini spent big on the public sector:




An expansive welfare state:




Along with state control over most of the economy:



Everything above is indisputably left wing, and anathema to people on the far right, like myself.

Here's your boy on the issue of racism:



On religion:




Fascism, being a branch of socialism, is a collectivist ideology:




While those of us on the right believe in individualism and capitalism.

So let's stop with the myth that fascism is right wing. Fascism is indisputably left wing.



Both Mussolini and Hitler had socialistic leanings, more-so Mussolini. However, they were both fascists and anti-socialist govt as they believed in a dictator with the private ownership/wealthy at the top in charge of society, whatever they may of said to do with "bettering" society. Very little done by those two fascist govts could be called socialistic. Hitler was an anti-socialist, anti-liberal, authoritarian, pro-business party dictator. Mussolini was early-on a socialist, but soon turned a strict fascist.
 
Fascism is right wing ideology taken to its extreme, and communism is left wing ideology taken to its extreme. For reasons that are historically obvious, these extremes are pretty terrible as they both allow for totalitarianism.

There is currently zero danger of the country slipping into communism, but we are perilously close to slipping into fascism, which you can see by the party in charge having adopted a policy of total and unquestioned loyalty to one man above all laws or principle, and total acceptance of the narrative that this man is not only immune to indictment, but to investigation as well. That party has also fully swung into ultranationalism and xenophobism, two qualities that are super popular in fascist states.
 
Fascism is right wing ideology taken to its extreme

You're simply making an assertion without any supporting evidence.

Making assertions is easy. I'll demonstrate:

"The moon is made of blue cheese."

See how easy it is? But if I had to support that assertion with evidence, I'd have a tough time.
 
You're simply making an assertion without any supporting evidence.

Making assertions is easy. I'll demonstrate:

"The moon is made of blue cheese."

See how easy it is? But if I had to support that assertion with evidence, I'd have a tough time.

I supported it in the part of the post you snipped off.
 
I supported it in the part of the post you snipped off.

Ok, here's the rest of it:

and communism is left wing ideology taken to its extreme. For reasons that are historically obvious, these extremes are pretty terrible as they both allow for totalitarianism.

There is currently zero danger of the country slipping into communism, but we are perilously close to slipping into fascism, which you can see by the party in charge having adopted a policy of total and unquestioned loyalty to one man above all laws or principle,

Just like in many communist states.

and total acceptance of the narrative that this man is not only immune to indictment, but to investigation as well. That party has also fully swung into ultranationalism and xenophobism, two qualities that are super popular in fascist states.

As I stated in the op, fascism is just socialism with a nationalist bent. There have also been communist countries which pushed nationalism.

I have to go to work, I'll be back later.
 
Ok, here's the rest of it:



Just like in many communist states.



As I stated in the op, fascism is just socialism with a nationalist bent. There have also been communist countries which pushed nationalism.

I have to go to work, I'll be back later.

You seem confused. You’re saying that the Republican Party has slipped not into fascism, but communism.
 
No.

Fascism is on the political left. It's just socialism with a nationalist bent. Mussolini, for example, was a life-long socialist and Italy under fascism was a progressive's wet dream.

Mussolini spent big on the public sector:




An expansive welfare state:




Along with state control over most of the economy:



Everything above is indisputably left wing, and anathema to people on the far right, like myself.

Here's your boy on the issue of racism:



On religion:




Fascism, being a branch of socialism, is a collectivist ideology:




While those of us on the right believe in individualism and capitalism.

So let's stop with the myth that fascism is right wing. Fascism is indisputably left wing.

It all depends on how you define the terms left and right.

Fascism is an extreme authoritarian ideology. Authoritarianism can be left or right.

Where do you stand? What is your personal political philosophy? Take the test and find out. I came out slightly left of center, but close to the libertarian end of the authoritarian/libertarian scale.
 
Fascism is right wing ideology taken to its extreme, and communism is left wing ideology taken to its extreme. For reasons that are historically obvious, these extremes are pretty terrible as they both allow for totalitarianism.

There is currently zero danger of the country slipping into communism, but we are perilously close to slipping into fascism, which you can see by the party in charge having adopted a policy of total and unquestioned loyalty to one man above all laws or principle, and total acceptance of the narrative that this man is not only immune to indictment, but to investigation as well. That party has also fully swung into ultranationalism and xenophobism, two qualities that are super popular in fascist states.

If one was to open the POTUS to indictment (any POTUS) this action would prevent the POTUS from doing his Constitutional duties, the is why the SCOTUS's opinion allows the POTUS to be free of indictments, except in the case of impeachment. If it were allowed to indict the POTUS then everyone who didn't like the POTUS could call for a indictment on any charge they wish to cast forward be it true or false. As far as investigation goes, the Congress does have the Constitutional authority to investigate a POTUS, however, once an indictment has been levied then the defense has the right of discovery, in other words, the defense has the right to see all the evidence of the charges being put forward. This process applies to impeachment proceedings also, Congress can not withhold evidence.
 
If one was to open the POTUS to indictment (any POTUS) this action would prevent the POTUS from doing his Constitutional duties, the is why the SCOTUS's opinion allows the POTUS to be free of indictments, except in the case of impeachment. If it were allowed to indict the POTUS then everyone who didn't like the POTUS could call for a indictment on any charge they wish to cast forward be it true or false. As far as investigation goes, the Congress does have the Constitutional authority to investigate a POTUS, however, once an indictment has been levied then the defense has the right of discovery, in other words, the defense has the right to see all the evidence of the charges being put forward. This process applies to impeachment proceedings also, Congress can not withhold evidence.

But the trump administration has taken it another step further, which is that the President is immune to investigation. That puts the President completely and fully above the law, and that’s fascist.
 
No.

Fascism is on the political left. It's just socialism with a nationalist bent. Mussolini, for example, was a life-long socialist and Italy under fascism was a progressive's wet dream.

Mussolini spent big on the public sector:




An expansive welfare state:




Along with state control over most of the economy:



Everything above is indisputably left wing, and anathema to people on the far right, like myself.

Here's your boy on the issue of racism:



On religion:




Fascism, being a branch of socialism, is a collectivist ideology:




While those of us on the right believe in individualism and capitalism.

So let's stop with the myth that fascism is right wing. Fascism is indisputably left wing.
Facism can be either left or right. Facism is a level of authoritarianism. For instance i could argue that forcing everyone to purchase health insurance is a facist left position and criminalizing abortions is a facist right position.

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Another tired and careworn episode of this regular rightwing BS. Every time you people do this it just draws attention to just how fascist you realize you are. It's just like when ****bag calls his work "perfect." It's so bogus that it's laughable. I like to recall how Mussolini preferred to use the word "corporatism" to define fascism. That should give even you a clue as to which side of the political spectrum fascists put themselves on. You like to focus on the use by Nazis of the the word "socialist" in their full name. Of course, that was a political ploy to get workers on its side to gain power. Once in power, workers became slaves under the regime.
 
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the SCOTUS's opinion allows the POTUS to be free of indictments, except in the case of impeachment.

There is not and never has been a "SCOTUS opinion" on this matter. It's entirely and only an Office of Legal Counsel of the DOJ opinion and has no basis in law or court ruling at any level.
 
It all depends on how you define the terms left and right.

Fascism is an extreme authoritarian ideology. Authoritarianism can be left or right.

Where do you stand? What is your personal political philosophy? Take the test and find out. I came out slightly left of center, but close to the libertarian end of the authoritarian/libertarian scale.
I looked at that test and those questions are pretty loaded. They are too vauge to give concrete answers too.

For example the first question says:
If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

1.Strongly disagree*
2.Disagree*
3.Agree*
4. Strongly agree

It assumes economic globalization is a given but it does not define what that means. Then it offers an ultimatum in the form of a question as if the choice is either or.

My view is that trade between nations will always exist but i dont think its inevitable or even likely that the world will ever fall under one government and one monetary system. Its also my view that capitalism uses greed as an engine to serve the greater good of humanity.

Given the 4 options available to me. There isnt any way for me to accurately answer that question. If i said i disagree it would be honest but misleading in its conclusion or i could say i agree and its equally misleading.



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I looked at that test and those questions are pretty loaded. They are too vauge to give concrete answers too.

For example the first question says:
If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

1.Strongly disagree*
2.Disagree*
3.Agree*
4. Strongly agree

It assumes economic globalization is a given but it does not define what that means. Then it offers an ultimatum in the form of a question as if the choice is either or.

My view is that trade between nations will always exist but i dont think its inevitable or even likely that the world will ever fall under one government and one monetary system. Its also my view that capitalism uses greed as an engine to serve the greater good of humanity.

Given the 4 options available to me. There isnt any way for me to accurately answer that question. If i said i disagree it would be honest but misleading in its conclusion or i could say i agree and its equally misleading.



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"Economic globalism" means trade integration.

It does not mean a one-word government. That's just weird conspiracy fearmongering.

The question is worded fine.
 
"Economic globalism" means trade integration.

It does not mean a one-word government. That's just weird conspiracy fearmongering.

The question is worded fine.
You know this how?

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No.

Fascism is on the political left. It's just socialism with a nationalist bent. Mussolini, for example, was a life-long socialist and Italy under fascism was a progressive's wet dream.

Mussolini spent big on the public sector:




An expansive welfare state:




Along with state control over most of the economy:



Everything above is indisputably left wing, and anathema to people on the far right, like myself.

Here's your boy on the issue of racism:



On religion:




Fascism, being a branch of socialism, is a collectivist ideology:




While those of us on the right believe in individualism and capitalism.

So let's stop with the myth that fascism is right wing. Fascism is indisputably left wing.

Fascism is a reasonable response to the specter of communist tyranny. If democracy is to fall, it is better for it to fall to those who do not hate the people.
 
You're simply making an assertion without any supporting evidence.

Making assertions is easy. I'll demonstrate:

"The moon is made of blue cheese."

See how easy it is? But if I had to support that assertion with evidence, I'd have a tough time.

Can you read an X-Y graph and understand it? Did you take the Political Compass quiz? Fascism is on the top (authoritarian and to the far right(capitalist) Donald Trump is very close to Adolph Hitler.

The Political Compass

To the center to the bottom left is liberal socialism.
 
Fascism is a reasonable response to the specter of communist tyranny. If democracy is to fall, it is better for it to fall to those who do not hate the people.

You mean death camps were an expression of love for those people? Fascism is deeply anti-semitic so you can start there with our rightwing and trace it from there to synagogue killings and burnings in this country. The left isn't doing that.
 
Fascism is a reasonable response to the specter of communist tyranny. If democracy is to fall, it is better for it to fall to those who do not hate the people.
Was Hitler a humanitarian to you?

Except to the various minorities who were killed under both Mussolini and Hitler.
 
it must be obsolete in the US simply due to the concept of natural rights, we can always rely on the right wing to clamor for, in abortion threads.
 
Can you read an X-Y graph and understand it? Did you take the Political Compass quiz? Fascism is on the top (authoritarian and to the far right(capitalist) Donald Trump is very close to Adolph Hitler.

The Political Compass

To the center to the bottom left is liberal socialism.
It can be far right on the politicsl scale and people generally assiociate it as a rightwing ideology but it can apply to either side by its own definition.

fascist - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com

If you know someone who's a*fascist, that person is probably into control. A*fascist*is a follower of a political philosophy characterized by authoritarian views and a strong central government — and no tolerance for opposing opinions

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