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Is Elon Musk spending $ 44 Bazillion on Twitter a sign of Late Stage Capitalism?

If modern capitalism produces an Elon Musk, what does it say about the economic system?


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The US government has burned through about $200 billion waging a war in Ukraine, that could have been settled in March. There is no comparison to a private person acting at liberty and freedom to pursue his own interests with his own money and the money of willing participants, to the forced wasting of hundreds of billions of dollars needlessly, to serve the interests of our masters.
major whatabout......meltdown continues...
 
None of the bannings anyone complained about were planning attacks and insurrections,
“Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Mr. Trump tweeted on Dec. 19, just one of several of his tweets promoting the day. “Be there, will be wild!”

Jan. 8, 2021, 4:25 PM MST / Updated Jan. 8, 2021, 7:50 PM MST
By Ben Collins and Brandy Zadrozny
Twitter permanently suspended President Donald Trump’s account on Friday, citing “the risk of further incitement of violence.”
 
“Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Mr. Trump tweeted on Dec. 19, just one of several of his tweets promoting the day. “Be there, will be wild!”
Yeah, that's called free speech, and political rallies and protests are allowed, even big ones. There is nothing wrong with being wild. If you make calling for wild protests illegal, you'd make every left wing protest illegal. You know, every protest against monuments and George Floyd and Black Lives Matter and such were all planned and announced and organized via communications between individuals, on social media and otherwise. If calling for a big protest in Portland or Seattle or Philadelphia is illegal because some participants used molotov cocktails, lit fires and assaulted people, then you just made organizing protests and dmonstrations illegal. The only way you can't see that is if you declare that when Trump says it, it's incitement, when Democrats say it, it's not.

Like when Trump urges his supporters to "fight." For some reason, your side declares that to be incitement to violence. But when left wingers or Democrats urge their supporters to fight, it's all metaphor and speaking truth to power in the best tradition of dissent.....
 
LOL, Twitter didn't look like a "right wing cesspool." It was biased toward the Democrat Party, for sure, and it was also biased to the neoconservative factions and the military industrial complex, as well as the security State. That's why Twitter's narrative control acted like it did. Governments use it to spread propaganda, and we saw that over and over.

If by "right wing" you mean the current crop of Establishment Democrats as well as the Establishment Republicans, all of whom are controlled by the Military Industrial Complex which also controls social media now, including but not limited to Twitter and Facebook and Youtube, well, then I agree with you. And, they clearly favor Biden and the Establishment Democrats, at least until Trump is finally silenced and ended. At that point, it will just be the establishments of both parties, and they will control the allowed narrative - if they want an emergency mandate, you won't be allowed to argue about it on social media because such arguments are dangerious and need to be silenced -- if we're talking about war with Russia (proxy or otherwise) then any protest of that will become treason, as it has with the Ukraine discussion.

No longer will we have any anti-war messaging of any consequence, like we had in the early 2000s over Iraq. The narratives are now controlled. That's why there is no liberal faction of any consequence that opposes Syria, Libya, and now Ukraine. There are no more voices among liberals allowed to oppose US bases in 85 countries, gone are the liberal voices opposing dark ops and CIA secret prisons. The Military Industrial Complex used the Trump situation to seize even greater control of narratives.
This is how you see that loser Trump? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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Everyone on the left loved Elon as long as he was making electric cars. Now he wants to cut the political strangle hold on social media and so now he is Hitler and the progressives hate Tesla.
I've always despised Elon as an anti-labour manchild poser and a fraud that unironically (and hilariously) tried to present himself as an IRL Tony Stark who rode his substantial privilege and family connections and the efforts of other, actually talented people (most notably and seminally Peter Thiel and Derek Proudian) to his current wealth and position.

Now, without any adults to steer him and curb his worst tendencies and impulses, he's self-destructing in a spectacular fashion.
 
I've always despised Elon as an anti-labour manchild poser and a fraud that unironically (and hilariously) tried to present himself as an IRL Tony Stark who rode his substantial privilege and family connections and the efforts of other, actually talented people (most notably and seminally Peter Thiel and Derek Proudian) to his current wealth and position.

Now, without any adults to steer him and curb his worst tendencies and impulses, he's self-destructing in a spectacular fashion.

Self destructing? I think you are wish casting....
 
Only a fool who's imagine of the left comes entirely from consuming Fox news could believe this. I think if you actually paid any attention whatsoever to what the left is actually saying you'll find they aren't especially fond of billionaires believe it or not.

Of sweet sweet irony. If I had a dime for every time someone incorrectly accused me of watching Fox news....

I've watched the left sing Elon's praises for years right up until he moved Tesla to Texas, now they are all "I've always hated Elon Musk!" :LOL:
 
So to answer the original question, no, Musk buying Twitter is not a sign of late stage capitalism.

If anything it's a sign that capitalism is doing very well.

It's only a shame that capitalism as we practice it in the US isn't really a system that benefits most of the people very well, and I'd ask if it ever did that in any other place or time.

Capitalism benefits people with large amounts of capital to loan to others at some given rate of return.

I would say that is what it has always been.

Musk himself was born into money to invest in this system, and he has done very well with that. He was born a capitalist.

Sadly too many people that have no means of capital also think they were born a capitalist, and they will defend capitalism with their vote and their dying breath because they have been convinced it's the best system for them.

Tho socialism and Communism are far worse systems, far too many people think those systems would benefit them more than capitalism, despite all the evidence that these systems are a tool of totalitarian rule.

We need a new ist or ism that serves all of the people better.
 
This is how you see that loser Trump? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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Nope, Trump's a ****ing asshole who I am quite positive I would loathe if I had the unfortunate circumstance of having to interact with him.

That said, he is better than the leaders we've had for the last 60+ years who have literally lied and committed war crimes nearly constantly, resulting in the deaths of millions of people, and who have bettered their own situations and bank accounts on the backs of the common American citizen, all in service of their masters and our masters, the military industrial complex and the Security State, who are the real owners of this country.

As bad as Trump is, Biden is worse.



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He did make himself the target of the left's political ire by opening his big mouth.

I don't think anyone can dispute that.

He's the guy that launched the EV market around the world. he was a legend in the green movement. Now he's a pariah because he also likes open forums.
 
He's the guy that launched the EV market around the world. he was a legend in the green movement. Now he's a pariah because he also likes open forums.
He bit the hand that feeds.

Can he find a new hand among the Ron DeSantis Republican Party he is trying to form?

Will that party all of the sudden favor government subsidies for EVs?

How can Musk turn a buck on his new found friends?
 
Self destructing? I think you are wish casting....
I mean between his probable losses on Twitter and the cratering of Tesla's stock price he's absolutely been instrumental in causing (down more than half relative to the past 12 months), both with his behaviour and his stock selloffs to finance the disastrous Twitter acquisition, self-destructing is pretty accurate as a descriptor.
 
That really isn't the whole of it, jmotivator. He is also openly backing Republicans.

If a hitherto well-respected apolitical business icon started trashing conservative values and politicians, and backed Democratic candidates, it would be reasonable to speculate that he would lose the support of a lot of conservatives if not earn their outright enmity.

I mean, you are describing pretty much every billionaire other than Elon at this point.

I don't like the politics of Jack Dorsey but I still used Twitter...
I don't like the Politics of Mark Zuckerberg but I still use Facebook...
I don't like the politics of Bill Gates but I still use Windows...
I don't like the politics of Jeff Bezos but I still use Amazon...
I don't like the politics of Susan Wojcicki but I still use Youtube...
I don't like the politics of Sundar Pichai but I still use Google....

I don't mind some of Elon's politics lately but I'll never by a Tesla.

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He bit the hand that feeds.

Can he find a new hand among the Ron DeSantis Republican Party he is trying to form?

Will that party all of the sudden favor government subsidies for EVs?

How can Musk turn a buck on his new found friends?
Why do we need government subsidies?
 
He bit the hand that feeds.

He didn't know his place? He's off the plantation? He's out of pocket?

Can he find a new hand among the Ron DeSantis Republican Party he is trying to form?

It's going to end up being like all the Democrats who screamed they were goin to leave the country if Trump won in 2016 but didn't.

Twitter is still one of the biggest social media platforms on the planet, so most desertions will be short lived. I don't think the advertisers that left, or plan to leave, will get the same audience at Mastodon.

CBS News announced they were leaving Twitter and they did... for a whole 22 hours. :LOL:

Will that party all of the sudden favor government subsidies for EVs?

Nope.

How can Musk turn a buck on his new found friends?

If a minor diversion in his politics made him an enemy of the Democrats they were never really friends anyway. Most free thinkers find that out eventually.
 
Why do we need government subsidies?
I don't know, but I will say people seem to like them, and our government seems to like to hand them out.
 
When you hate someone because you can't control them the problem is you.
White people doing white people shit for white people reason.

Or to put it another way, a real first world problem.

It's all very entertaining watching all the drama of liberals losing their shit and Musk using Twitter to get Ron DeSantis elected President.

That is a social experiment I will the interested to see the outcome of. I mean Trump's base is so fervent it's going to be hard to beat him in the Republican primaries.

Should DeSantis win the Republican nomination will he take the office, and what will Republicans be willing to give Musk for the service?

Lastly, is Twitter lead by Musk that powerful, to name the next President?
 
I've watched the left sing Elon's praises for years right up until he moved Tesla to Texas, now they are all "I've always hated Elon Musk!" :LOL:
4 years ago, an entire thread of leftists criticizing Musk:


6 years ago, a person getting completely wrecked for posting positively about Elon in r/socialism:


Here from our own good forum, @Questerr digging into Elon Musk in 2020:

2018, The Guardian calling out his long and continuous anti-union activities:

2020 Vaush, an anarchist communist, insulting Elon:


Is that enough for you to reconsider your silly statement?
 
4 years ago, an entire thread of leftists criticizing Musk:


6 years ago, a person getting completely wrecked for posting positively about Elon in r/socialism:


Here from our own good forum, @Questerr digging into Elon Musk in 2020:

2018, The Guardian calling out his long and continuous anti-union activities:

2020 Vaush, an anarchist communist, insulting Elon:


Is that enough for you to reconsider your silly statement?


Yawn, here are thousands of leftists loving Elon because he made fun of Sarah Palin:



But hey, I guess you guys now have something to agree on with Sarah Palin!

Also Hahaha

 
So what? You think it's ok for Twitter to support Democrats, but not Republicans? Both parties are lying pieces of shit controlled by the military industrial complex. LOL The Democrat party is the war party now, dominated by neoconservatives who play brinksmanship games with the lives of millions of people.
I never said that. Twitter did not have an official position on politics one way or the other. Then the rat bought it and now they are saying "vote republican".

Surely you possess the wisdom to see the difference. If not, I feel bad for you.

Pretending it's not real makes you look bad.

You have no evidence that it's real and neither do the GQP idiots.

The news story should not have been censored. The fact that you support censorship makes you look bad.
It makes me a realist and proves I am in touch with reality.

Can you say the same.

You've been had by the establishment. Did they give you a kiss on the cheek, at least, while they buggered you? You actually think that you support the "good guys" lol. Well, if you're that far gone, enjoy your ignorance.

More baseless right wing lies.

This is not the behavior of a moderate.
 
Yawn, here are thousands of leftists loving Elon because he made fun of Sarah Palin:
Some people's brains are so broken, so completely shredded by our modern political landscape, that there is exists only Republicans and leftists. The very idea that there could be thousands of moderates and independents who didn't care too much about politics and just liked Elon because of his electric cars is completely unimaginable. Such brains are unable to grasp the concept that any political view exists outside of conservatism and moderate liberalism. Yours, is one such brain.

I want you, for but just a moment, to consider what values someone who is a leftist might have. Pro-union, perhaps? In favor of redistributing wealth from the billionaires, maybe? Against colonialism in Africa, probably? Ok, now I ask you...why would someone who believes all those things ever like a billionaire who got his initial wealth from his father's colonial emerald mines who has a long history of union busting and advocating against raising taxes? Why?
 
We need a new ist or ism that serves all of the people better.
I'm a libertarian socialist myself. Personally I believe we should have the majority of the economy operated through worker cooperatives.
 
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