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Is Don a Narcissist? If So Do You Care?

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In the interview, Zdrok claimed Trump had called Playboy to get a date with her, and they “ended up going out four times.” She said she had gotten a call from Playboy Promotions saying Trump was “looking for a new girl for his ad campaign for one of his casinos in Atlantic City…It turns out he was never actually looking for a model. He was just trying to pick me up.”
“First of all, he’s really arrogant,” Zdrok told Hayden. “He’s really into himself! On a date all he does is talk about himself. He loves himself! The first thing he says to me on our date is that he’s taller and better looking than what he looks like in pictures, and that people don’t realize it. He said, ‘People don’t realize how handsome I am!’ He actually loves himself! I never met a more narcissistic person than Donald.
“You feel just like a piece of jewelry when you’re with him. For him it’s all about looks, appearances, and signing autographs. He just loves it.”
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“He just loves to talk about which women are in love with him and always calling him. He loves to talk about how women are chasing him all the time, which doesn’t make a girl feel special on a date. The other thing he talks about is what a great lover he is. He said to me, ‘Once you made love to me, you’ll never be able to make love to anybody else.’”
Zdrok, who told Hayden she had not slept with Trump (she did not want to be “another notch on his belt”), accused him of being racist.
“He would always talk about this one girl, a supermodel, and how he would give her the best orgasms of her life. And how she misses him so much. He told me he really likes this girl but he would never go out with her because he found out she was half-black and that would be bad for his reputation. I thought that was very racist.
“He didn’t like that she was some weird ethnic mix so he wouldn’t go out with her publicly, but that he really missed her and she was wonderful in bed. He needed somebody more mainstream.”

Trump Denied Dating Model, Called Her a ?F**king Third-Rate Hooker? - The Daily Beast

Skipping the overwrought commentary that sounds like Don, I expect that is close to how he acts. My dad was a salesman, by brother is a salesmen, and this which is described is a type. My dad died 1987, and boy let me tell you he respected Trump.

This is fine with me so long as he is willing and able to listen. I was a might bit not happy to see the other day that Robert Gates has concluded that he most likely would not if he gets the chair. I am going with the idea that you dont get to be Donald Trump without learning to keep your ear to the ground, and getting good at it. I dont disagree with Gates often, but I do here.


What say you?
 

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Trump Denied Dating Model, Called Her a ?F**king Third-Rate Hooker? - The Daily Beast

Skipping the overwrought commentary that sounds like Don, I expect that is close to how he acts. My dad was a salesman, by brother is a salesmen, and this which is described is a type. My dad died 1987, and boy let me tell you he respected Trump.

This is fine with me so long as he is willing and able to listen. I was a might bit not happy to see the other day that Robert Gates has concluded that he most likely would not if he gets the chair. I am going with the idea that you dont get to be Donald Trump without learning to keep your ear to the ground, and getting good at it. I dont disagree with Gates often, but I do here.


What say you?

Give me the name of a single leader that isn't a narcissist and I'll show you a failure. I couldn't care less as to how he treats supermodels. Their entire lives revolve around themselves and their superficial looks. Most of them deserve to be told off. Obviously Trump has enough money/options that he doesn't need to sugercoat his words like a white knight.
 

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Trump Denied Dating Model, Called Her a ?F**king Third-Rate Hooker? - The Daily Beast

Skipping the overwrought commentary that sounds like Don, I expect that is close to how he acts. My dad was a salesman, by brother is a salesmen, and this which is described is a type. My dad died 1987, and boy let me tell you he respected Trump.

This is fine with me so long as he is willing and able to listen. I was a might bit not happy to see the other day that Robert Gates has concluded that he most likely would not if he gets the chair. I am going with the idea that you dont get to be Donald Trump without learning to keep your ear to the ground, and getting good at it. I dont disagree with Gates often, but I do here.

1. Yes, Trump is a narcissist.

2. Narcissists don't listen to others opinions. They're narcissists.

3. Trump has also made it clear that not only does he not listen to other's opinions, but that pushing opinions that he dislikes can get you fired/sidelined.


What say you?

I think the more important question here is: what say Trump and the people around him? When asked on stage to name a single time he'd ever actually listened to advice he didn't want to hear, Trump hemmed and hawed and then made a joke about his wife.
 
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Give me the name of a single leader that isn't a narcissist and I'll show you a failure.

nar·cis·sism
ˈnärsəˌsizəm
noun
excessive or erotic interest in oneself and one's physical appearance.

I can think of a lot of leaders that aren't narcissists. Donald Trump is one of the few that I genuinely believe are narcissistic.
 

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Yes and Yes.

Though I care more about the fact that he's nuts.
 

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1. Yes, Trump is a narcissist.

2. Narcissists don't listen to others opinions. They're narcissists.

3. Trump has also made it clear that not only does he not listen to other's opinions, but that pushing opinions that he dislikes can get you fired/sidelined.




I think the more important question here is: what say Trump and the people around him? When asked on stage to name a single time he'd ever actually listened to advice he didn't want to hear, Trump hemmed and hawed and then made a joke about his wife.

yeah this.
 

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What say you?

I think he is a narcissist, I've had that opinion for months now.

All the evidence is there. An emphasis on self-appearance and self-importance, a usual mention of success and "taking advantage" of failure, just about everything is personal (comments on treatment of him by everyone from Stephanopoulos to Kelly,) the assumption of "love and support" from various demographics even thought he polling tells us otherwise, several bad relationships and questionable business dealings, questionable associations for personal gain and control of influence, the perception that he can buy people and candidates, everything is "great" or "amazing" or "huge," etc. Some of that obviously is position in life, but not all of it can be reduced to that common denominator. In some ways he is a much stronger narcissist than Nancy Pelosi ever was.

Our issue is all of that arrogance and demeanor of superiority means questionable decision making and relationship building with perhaps our closest allies, let alone those we do not get along with so well.

It is a legitimate issue I suspect will come up more and more once we get into the general election run against Hillary (who has her own issues for us to contend with.)
 

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I think he is a narcissist, I've had that opinion for months now.

All the evidence is there. An emphasis on self-appearance and self-importance, a usual mention of success and "taking advantage" of failure, just about everything is personal (comments on treatment of him by everyone from Stephanopoulos to Kelly,) the assumption of "love and support" from various demographics even thought he polling tells us otherwise, several bad relationships and questionable business dealings, questionable associations for personal gain and control of influence, the perception that he can buy people and candidates, everything is "great" or "amazing" or "huge," etc. Some of that obviously is position in life, but not all of it can be reduced to that common denominator. In some ways he is a much stronger narcissist than Nancy Pelosi ever was.

Our issue is all of that arrogance and demeanor of superiority means questionable decision making and relationship building with perhaps our closest allies, let alone those we do not get along with so well.

It is a legitimate issue I suspect will come up more and more once we get into the general election run against Hillary (who has her own issues for us to contend with.)

A good tell will be what Kissinger says after their meeting tomorrow. If Don is smart he will listen well, and if he does Kissinger will notice and will be more likely to hep set him up with a foreign policy team.
 

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A good tell will be what Kissinger says after their meeting tomorrow. If Don is smart he will listen well, and if he does Kissinger will notice and will be more likely to hep set him up with a foreign policy team.

At age 92 years old this meeting probably will be just a ripple in the lake. I have no idea how old Kissinger must be.
 

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Trump also touched (lightly) on his emotional side after Kelly asked if he had ever been emotionally hurt by someone.

Trump said that his brother’s death was the “hardest thing for me to take, that was very tough.”

But Kelly pressed on and repeated her question.

Trump said that he couldn’t think of anything specifically but he would think about it and get back to her.

“When I’m wounded, I go after people hard and I try to unwound myself,” he said.
Trump to Kelly: 'You’ve been called a lot worse' than bimbo

My first thought was "I dont want a guy who does that in the POTUS chair.


My second thought was "WOW he really did just say that..... I LIKE this guy!".
 
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